Illegal HID conversion

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Illegal HID conversion

Seems to me that there's a lot of conjecture on the legalities of after market HID whereas theres been plenty of supportive evidence pointing to the illegality of after market HID.
After market HID is NOT illegal if it complies with the requirements I listed in my previous post.
 
the law is wrong an needs changing asap


dont be silly dave politicians have much more important things to think about........... expense fiddling for one..


and i have been told off by a policeman for using HID on my push bike :devil:

nothing in the regs r.e power output on a pushbike on a supplementary light (must have a poxy legal one which you cant see as the HID overwhelms it) as long as its the correct colour so i can go out blinding car drivers :devil:

boy hell did he get the arse on when i told him :)
 
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the law is wrong an needs changing asap
That may well be the case, but unless it is changed the rules for AM fitting are very clearly set out by government so there is no room for doubt.

Its not happening too often yet, but we are seeing a steady increase in prosecutions, usually for no insurance after the insurers have declined cover on the grounds of illegal and undeclared modifications. Thats a minimum of 6 points, a fine and increased premiums for some years afterwards. Getting the car back after its been seized can also be a real problem in these cases.


Bearing in mind the number of threads we get on this subject it might be a good idea to sticky the government rules.
 
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One momentary lapse of concentration could see a driver swerve into your path.
Their car smashes half the front end of yours away.
Whilst standing there swapping insurance details etc, the other driver notices your lights.
On his insurance form he writes "I was driving along when the other car came along the road, he was blinding me with his lights - they appeared to be on full beam, I held my hand up to shield my eyes from the dazzling bright light & the next thing I knew..."

Now if I was that bloke's insurance assessor the first thing I would check is the lights on the other car.
If they're not to spec then I would be saying that the accident was indirectly your fault as you had illegal lights -probably incorrectly adjusted etc.
Your insurers are going to be asking why you didn't tell them about the adaptions.

It might be fun to live on the edge but there are times when it can bite you on the backside.
 
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I had that Dave following me last night in his Punto - I think he was lost...

Anyway, I knew it was 'im as he had these poxy bright lights They weren't blinding as such, but that could've just been the dirt on the lenses... :p
 
mer mer mer

i enjoy blinding people! problem? lol

:rolleyes: Say no more

i buzz off having this conversation every 2 days (y)

both the bravo, and the coupes headlights are capable of taking HIDs. the beam pattern is fine. and ive passed MOT's. :rolleyes:

give it a freaking rest already! :bang:

i say next person to post moaning about HIDs gets a ban. its getting irritating now. everyone knows... no matter how many times you talk about it people aint gonna change thier freaking minds!! :bang:

At least yours are declaired to insurance. Fun could begin if they try using the 'not legal' arguement.

Applesei, if your only input into the topic is to direct offensive remarks and if you have nothing constructive to say on the matter, perhaps you shouldn't contribute at all.

Well said.

Seems to be everyone who is breaking the law, hates these kinds of theads, as they know they are in the wrong.

Agreed.

The thread title makes it clear what the thread is about. If you find this sort of thread boring, why read it?

:yeahthat: :ROFLMAO:

the law is wrong an needs changing asap

What part need changing in your view Dave? What would you change it to and why?

I had that Dave following me last night in his Punto - I think he was lost...

Anyway, I knew it was 'im as he had these poxy bright lights They weren't blinding as such, but that could've just been the dirt on the lenses... :p

:ROFLMAO: :p
 
What part need changing in your view Dave? What would you change it to and why?

should be changed so you can go get them tested ( not by beaus dodgy mate) and if the beam pattern is fine then they should be legal. the self leveling big should be scrapped because they cause more problems than they solve.

then we should have a new law that any car that lights up you windscreen at night when they are behind you should be taken off the road, they drastically reduce the vision for as long as they are behind you, a lot worse than a few seconds of some one blinding you as they pass the other way
 
One momentary lapse of concentration could see a driver swerve into your path.
Their car smashes half the front end of yours away.
Whilst standing there swapping insurance details etc, the other driver notices your lights.
On his insurance form he writes "I was driving along when the other car came along the road, he was blinding me with his lights - they appeared to be on full beam, I held my hand up to shield my eyes from the dazzling bright light & the next thing I knew..."

Now if I was that bloke's insurance assessor the first thing I would check is the lights on the other car.
If they're not to spec then I would be saying that the accident was indirectly your fault as you had illegal lights -probably incorrectly adjusted etc.
Your insurers are going to be asking why you didn't tell them about the adaptions.

It might be fun to live on the edge but there are times when it can bite you on the backside.

:yeahthat:
 
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should be changed so you can go get them tested ( not by beaus dodgy mate) and if the beam pattern is fine then they should be legal. the self leveling big should be scrapped because they cause more problems than they solve.

then we should have a new law that any car that lights up you windscreen at night when they are behind you should be taken off the road, they drastically reduce the vision for as long as they are behind you, a lot worse than a few seconds of some one blinding you as they pass the other way

Thats fair enough, makes alot of sence, and would help sort the issue out a bit I think, but come down to poeple being bothered to do it properly at the end of it. Perhap it should become part of the MOT? Headlamp system not only checked for beam pattern, but if not of the globe projection type, they should be check to see if its a normal bulb, or HID with a Balast and if the latter auto Failed on MOT?

As I've already mentioned the issue in the main with HID's is with the noobs who fit them to standard reflector headlamp units :bang:
 
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