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Seicento  Monster Cento/ECU Master Thread

Introduction

Well starting this is well overdue although technically it's still just a car and a big pile of bits at the moment. It will come together quickly though as I have access to a commercial garage in the evenings and on weekends which belongs to a good friend. I'm lucky enough to have another good friend who is a self employed coded welder/fabricator and yet another good friend who owns a powder coating business. Myself, I do electronics so pretty much everything is covered. :D

I'm not going to go into minor details as most of it has been discussed before (especially the engine which was purchased from Gazzaman). However I will answer any questions and will go into detail with the DET 3 setup and installation as there are no UK guides I'm aware of for this.

So the car:

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A 2000 SPI Seicento Abarth (probably manufactured late 1999) which replaces the silver Cinq (SPI Turbocharged) I have recently sold for restoration. The silver chap needed some TLC due to a bad repair from a rear collision before I purchased him. Someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse so I sold him on with the standard engine and pinched Mrs. Honeymonsters Sei after buying her a newer yellow ragtop replacement which I got a good deal on but wasn't really suitable for my project.

The planned spec is as follows, only thing I'm missing is the TB. Now Sorted (thanks Blu!)


Specification
1.2 Punto 75 Engine
Fully balanced rebuilt bottom end and crank
Ported Punto 75 MPI head with 3 angle cut valves
866 Cam with Piper vernier adjustable pulley
16v pistons/rods with skimmed block/head to adjust for suitable turbo compression
Port matched HT coated Punto 75 inlet manifold with rebuilt and tested Larger MGF VVT Injectors
Strongflex Polyurethane engine mounts
HKS mushroom filter
ECU Master ECU using fuel implant technology running MPI and solenoid boost control
Brand new GT17 Turbo with Forge racing billet actuator
Custom tigg welded GT17 exhaust manifold with high temperature coating
Forge racing billet Dump valve
Upgraded Fuel pump
Adjustable Boost referencing fuel pressure regulator
Lightened 1.2 flywheel with C&G clutch
Custom exhaust/downpipe with Magnex stainless steel silencer
Renault 5 Turbo polished and uprated Intercooler with Samco pipes and stainless bends
9 row oil cooler with Stainless braided lines
Kinugawa Stainless braided turbo water and oil feeds
Modified brand new sump tig welded for oil return and breather
Aluminum oil catch can with baffle and breather filter
Lower temperature 85c thermostat
New pumps, belts, tensioners
New leads and custom injector loom
All new seals rings and bearings
Aluminum radiator
Sparco strutbrace
Quaiffe ATB differential with new drive shafts and cv joints
Uno turbo or Punto GT Calipers (have both) with vented/grooved discs and pads
-40mm springs and upgraded shocks
Hel Braided brake lines
Monroe adjustable camber bolts (Corrected thanks Brooky :)
New tie rods and track rod ends
All suspension components including rear beam, arms etc. and front hubs, arms etc. removed and powder coated black.
Momo steering wheel, pedals and gear knob
Soundsream old skool reference series amplifier
Soundstream high end 6.5" component speakers
Image dynamics IDQ10 sub hidden in the spare wheel well.
Orion Ultra rare old school digital parametric equaliser
Audio control ESP2 spatial restoration unit
Alpine F1 Head Unit

I will just post some pictures of the bits for now and then intermittently as I fit them.

I do however need to keep this car mobile to park it back in my workshop so it will be done in big chunks.

Cheers
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Didn't get a chance to do anything at the weekend since I was busy with another project I've been working on, however late last night I yanked the bumper off and we got all the manifold tacked in place. It's been taken off to be tigged up permanently and have the EGT and WB bosses fitted by a guy whos welding is nothing short of exceptional. Also all the flanges will be rounded off and made pretty. The GT17 fits nicely but a heat shield will be in order to protect some of the very close items.

Picture isn't the best (sorry):

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Also have decided to get the pipe outlets moved on the intercooler so I have to use less bends and reducers. Still loads to do, I'm going to Poland fairly soon so I'll have a look out for any tasty parts and pick up my new ring gear, the pinion shaft is on order. I've removed the rear poly mount and replaced with a new standard item to see the effect and now there is no gearbox/diff noise in the cabin, however there is more vibration at tick over and less on the move. Starting to think a complete re-design of the engine mounts may be in order. But at least now it is much more civil.

Appart from that the cars been running great and I use it most days. (y)
 
No updates ATM chap, the old man had some problems with his heart and got airlifted to hospital so I lost a few weeks there. Last weekend was swallowed up by having to work Saturday and Sunday to finish off a big install. Various other time consuming/annoying things filling in the gaps. Things will continue in the near future though. (y)

Using the car most days, no problems so far, doesn't like traffic much in the hot weather even with the low temp stat it gets a bit warm. Ah the joys of a low compression engine...

Needs the wooshmaker fitted ASAP. :D
 
Finally just picked this chap up in PL.

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Rather nice purchase for £64.00 :D

Shame I only need the ring gear...

I'm back in 10 days and the manifold is ready to be fitted along with the modified intercooler so the fun can continue. :slayer:

I've seen more Cento's in the last two days than I've seen in the last two years (no sportings though). Lots of 126P's too which I'm starting to grow strangely fond of. :confused:

Still lots of Uno's about here in good nick it's old Fiat heaven. :)
 
Chill Blueness I'm already back but as usual the day I left it seems everything went mental. Why is is everything goes smooth for ages and the minute you step on a plane everything starts to belch magic smoke and fall to pieces??

Exactly the same thing happened when I went on holiday last year...

We had another power cut too which fried loads of my customers equipment, exactly the same day as 1 year ago when I was also on holiday, just plane weird. We never usually have power cuts. :confused:

I even fitted a UPS to my aquarium just in case, I fitted a 3 hour back up and you guessed it we had a 5 hour power cut. Absolute nightmare... luckily no fatalities just lots of angry fish with a sun tan because the lights stayed on for 7 days after the timers reset...

Anyway I'm catching up this week but I should be on the ball mid next week so expect an update next weekend at the latest. (y)

 
sounds like your cursed.. I been thinking about getting UPS installed too, got 3 snakes and a lizard so it would be a bit of a nightmare if we lost power.

I worked out though that a deep cycle leisure battery and a small inverter would run for ages and ages so thats my plan (when i get around to it).

In other news, sold my van today and that means my only current road legal car is the turbo seicento.. Its been a long long time since she was a daily, I'm sure she will manage fine though *touch wood*
 
Sorry no update forgot it was the local rally weekend just gone and the garage was too busy for me to be hogging ramps with Monster. :)

It's getting a bit chilly now but things will continue this weekend, maybe at the welders lock up since there are still a few bits to be welded on post downpipe once the manifold is fitted and his Tig is far from portable.

No other news car has been running great, doesn't tick over the best once it gets warm in traffic but this will all be tuned out once the woosh maker is fitted.

Oh yeah and the battery has gone flat in my central locking Fob, but I'm sure I can fix that... :D
 
Spent the afternoon clearing a space for the car in the welders shop. The nose comes back off tomorrow and the turbo installation finally begins. :slayer:

I will start updating pictures again as things progress in the next few days.

Also the keyfob was more of a pain than I expected. I mean seriously who puts 2 batterys in a keyfob. :nutter: I've had to order them especially. LOL
 
Spent the afternoon clearing a space for the car in the welders shop. The nose comes back off tomorrow and the turbo installation finally begins. :slayer:

I will start updating pictures again as things progress in the next few days.

Also the keyfob was more of a pain than I expected. I mean seriously who puts 2 batterys in a keyfob. :nutter: I've had to order them especially. LOL

About time ;)
 

Just seen this? The adapter said it can replace the regulator the for a P85 MPI. That be the 16v. Then i can just use an aftermarket fuel regulator yeah ?

Thanks
Ming
 
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is it an aftermarket remote kit or you got the factory option one.. I've never opened mine up..

Look forward to the coming pics :D

It's a the round blue Fiat one, I think some Puntos' have these too. On the brightside 10 batteries cost £1.49 on ebay so I doubt I'll ever need to buy any more. :)

About time ;)

Oi that was uneccesary. :p lol

Just seen this? The adapter said it can replace the regulator the for a P85 MPI. That be the 16v. Then i can just use an aftermarket fuel regulator yeah ?

Thanks
Ming

I guess so Ming I don't know what an 85 injector rail looks like off the top of my head. If it's similar to the 75 one then yes but... the standard clip wouldn't even fit over my after market regulator and that looks thinner than the adapter. If this is the case (most likely) you'll have to find another way of holding it on which isn't as easy as it sounds. I used an m50 BMW item, I took a wild guess based on the regulators looking similar, I got lucky it was a perfect fit.

Finally not a huge start but I got an hour on it today so things are moving again:

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No shortage of welders here, there even several more not shown in the picture:

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Plenty of raw materials to make any required brackets and stuff too. Also the chap does hydraulic hoses so that's the the oil cooler lines, turbo cooling and most other bits sorted. :D
 
you gonna move the radiator to the other side?? Means your turbo isn't right next to the back ;) Sorry to make more work if not, but you know it makes sense. IC and oil cooler on the drivers side and nothing in front of turbo will keep bay temps down. That my plan if i ever get around to it.
 
you gonna move the radiator to the other side?? Means your turbo isn't right next to the back ;) Sorry to make more work if not, but you know it makes sense. IC and oil cooler on the drivers side and nothing in front of turbo will keep bay temps down. That my plan if i ever get around to it.

Nope, intercooler is too mahoosive to go on that side and the oil cooler will be hotter than the radiator. I'm not worried about temps that much and plan to have a heatshield on the turbo where it's close to the rad, also I will have to move the rad forward a bit because the turbo is much larger than a GT15.

It will be fine I promise ;).
 
well never had any issues with my radiator tbh but my old cinq literally burnt a hole in the back of the rad without anything to protect it, but that never overheated either surprisingly..

I'm intrigued now, what IC are you using?? Its probably been said somewhere back a bit but i remember not.
 
It's some chunky double thickness thing for a R5GT Turbo, it's not huge just very fat (much more obese than I expected). Actually more surface area on a thinner construction is way more efficient than more thickness. However this came up at the right price and being of solid plate aluminum construction (apart from the cores obviously) means it easy to modify and move the inlets/outlets around for decent pipe placement. Not only that it was an awesome bargain because I complained about the welding on the first unit so they sent me a replacement and let me keep the old one for free. :D

It's a bit close to the clutch cable TBO but I'll manage, a Cento is always going to be a car of compromise. As for the rad, well as long as the turbo has the relevant heat shield ( these are amazingly effective and often overlooked) it's not really going to matter that much. All the hot air from the rad is going to end up in the engine bay regardless what side it's on.

I remember watching all the sand racing cars as a kid with their radiators fitted verticaly on the roof (before they changed the rules). Not exactly practical for a road car but awesome for cooling.
 
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