Seicento 1.4 Uno Turbo'd Seicento Rebuild Thread

[craigb244]

you can buy gasless stainless wire for the mig. I used some before and it works pretty good , with any gasless mig it spits a lot (not really a problem on and exhaust)

we used it on a garage door.

btw when i had my exhaust made the guy said the cento is one of the hardest to make due to how tight it is and how close all the bends are together... just a warning

 

[sei16v]

you can buy gasless stainless wire for the mig. I used some before and it works pretty good , with any gasless mig it spits a lot (not really a problem on and exhaust)

we used it on a garage door.

btw when i had my exhaust made the guy said the cento is one of the hardest to make due to how tight it is and how close all the bends are together... just a warning

lol i know the exhausts are a pain to make, you only have to see my redtop one haha, hopefully round two will be easier....

On a note with the runners... mine work fine... after a little bending of the bit you pull lol...

 

[sei16v]

Anyone know a good place to get harnesses from? After cheap and cheerful.... and would the sei suit 3 or 4 point harnesses the best? Looking for minimal work as i dont fancy welding mounting plates above the fuel tank...

Anyone selling any

 

[turbocinq]

Rally design in Faversham, Kent are quite reasonable and they are a mail order company.

Their website is www.rallydesign.co.uk

I use them a lot and they are really good!

 

[sei16v]

Cheers, Got my eyes on some sexy ones on ebay...

Ive bought some dark grey faux suede material to trim the whole lot out (except dash etc).. so these belts would look fairly sexy....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390108645917&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Anyways...

Today i attacked my exhaust, was fed up of it hanging funny... what a friggin' nightmare!

Never going to be mint as i have to cut and weld the thing as i dont have access to a bender, or the funds for someone else to bend it for me lol

Its still not finished, but heres where i got....

 

[arc]

Never going to be mint as i have to cut and weld the thing as i dont have access to a bender, or the funds for someone else to bend it for me lol

it doesnt really matter when it's downstream of a turbo tho, so

 

[fingers99]

Oh, it'll make a difference. You can buy bends seperately, but I dunno if anyone does them in 2mm. Any thinner and you'd probably burn holes in it with the gasless one. :bang:

Can't you borrow a proper MIG set off someone?

 

[sei16v]

Oh, it'll make a difference. You can buy bends seperately, but I dunno if anyone does them in 2mm. Any thinner and you'd probably burn holes in it with the gasless one. :bang:

Can't you borrow a proper MIG set off someone?

Funds are tight at the min, as im still stuck with the redtop sei on the drive... its ate all my cash, and still haunting my wallet just sat there lol.

The bore of the exhaust is a lot bigger than the one that came off, and all the internal parts of the tubing have been filed as best as possible at all the joins, so it should flow better than what came off the car.

The one which was fitted had been blowing in over 8 places!.. it looked to be thrown together in an hour or so...

So this one cant be any worse lol...

If it does effect the engine in a negative way (which i doubt seeing the one that came off) then il get it booked in for a pro exhaust when the funds are available...

 

[CLXCraig]

Is the engine still running the stock turbo? If it is then you could always get a UT exhaust system and shorten/shape it a little...

 

[sei16v]

Is the engine still running the stock turbo? If it is then you could always get a UT exhaust system and shorten/shape it a little...

No, a hybrid garratt turbo...

TO be honest i think that is what the exhaust i removed is, a bodged uno one.

Anyways left it for the day, i feel too ill, and its wet outside lol...

Been passing the time with a bit of suede trimming, while my partner is out shopping lol...

 

[arc]

Oh, it'll make a difference.

it won't make enough difference to warrant re-doing it.

 

[sei16v]

****FAO turbocinq****

The engine mount pics... not brilliant as the weather is pants, il get some better as soon as poss...

The front left (big ball looking thing on the inner wing, is an oil engine mount from the UNO)... I wouldnt use this if i was building a turbo car from scratch, it has too much play in it when its fubar, and its not changeable with the engine in position, the engine has to come completely out.

I have also put up a pic of the inner horn on the wing which has been removed and re welded. Bit close to the cambelt, but its been like this for years so i can only assume its alright.

The rear mount is a seicento mount, theres a plate welded on, then bolted to the gearbox of the uno engine.

The front gearbox/engine mount is almost impossible to picture, it runs from the front passenger side of the engine, and is bolted to the underside of the front inner wing. (possibly where the standard fiat one is located, i cant remember).

Also pictured is the lack of space, and the wiring mess... (this will all be sorted on mine sometime soon)...

If you do get stuck your welcome to have a look round when she's running properly.

 

[fingers99]

it won't make enough difference to warrant re-doing it.

It all depends. Tubs are very sensitive to over tight bends, under sized exhausts, drop through in the pipe. And 304 doesn't really like mild steel mig wire...........

 

[arc]

they're not over-tight tho, and the exhaust isn't small - just be a few rough edges inside.. which don't matter down stream of the turbo - it doesnt need to be a tuned system to the tailpipe.

 

[fingers99]

It matters. How much a dyno will tell. Tuned length doesn't matter -- ideally a turbo needs as short a pipe as possible. But anything which impedes the gas getting out will affect gas flow through the entire system, turbine included. Essentially, that's why people put dividers between the outlet and wastegate, run seperate wastegate outlets, merge the wastegate to the outlet at very narrow included angles etc.

Of course, it probably doesn't matter in so far as the big problem with that car is likely to be getting the power down anyway!

 

[arc]

aye i know, hence why on a car i worked on we put a valve in the ehxaust that opened up a 2" diameter, 4" long pipe when the car started to come on boost - loud, but did the job.

but it's a road car, and by redoing the whole system with proper bends is going to have bugger all effect on the way the car drives!

 

[sei16v]

aye i know, hence why on a car i worked on we put a valve in the ehxaust that opened up a 2" diameter, 4" long pipe when the car started to come on boost - loud, but did the job.

but it's a road car, and by redoing the whole system with proper bends is going to have bugger all effect on the way the car drives!

Is that what a screamer pipe is?

I was told to look into one by someone who i know, but i only thought they were a 'noise' modification rather than doing anything useful..

 

[sei16v]

Had a go at a trimming a few bits up in my grey faux suede....

I had a go at the passenger panel between the dash and roof which came out mint... Would do the drivers side but i need to get hold of one from a mate off here...
Ive also done the rear speaker cards... I wont be fitting them in just yet though as i dont want to damage anything with welding in harness mountings etc...

I think the interior should look pretty sweet when all is done... although one thing i do want to remove and trim is the headlining, as that would look pretty sexy in the suede... but i need to know if this can be done without removing any glass, as if glass needs removing then il sack that idea off haha.

 

[arc]

Is that what a screamer pipe is?

I was told to look into one by someone who i know, but i only thought they were a 'noise' modification rather than doing anything useful..

i think they are, yeah. i learnt the name like 3 years after fitting it. The valve was just a butterfly connected up to a 'wastegate style' actuator.

 

[fingers99]

I think it can. Glass is bonded (front and rear screens) anyway, so can't see any sensible way they could attatch the headlining to the screens.

Wots this fake suede, anyway?