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I have a thread ongoing
PANDA PARTS REQUEST
In future if you need just post a request...
I will try and find it for you
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Re: Pandani - 1000CL restoration

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I have a thread ongoing
PANDA PARTS REQUEST
In future if you need just post a request...
I will try and find it for you
Already stuck a request for four screw clips thanks. Useful to know for future stuff.
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Already stuck a request for four screw clips thanks. Useful to know for future stuff.

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'NEW' CARPET

Yesterday I collected the carpet I previously got from Binhoker about three months' ago after it was steam cleaned (3 times) to get out all the dirt and grease. Looks nearly new. Won't be fitting for a few months yet though, still have to Dinitrol the car and other personal commitments in next few months will hold me back. Nothing stopping me from buying stuff in preparation; another trip made today to Binhoker's for more small stuff off his donor car to have at the ready.
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I just need to get some kind of steel or rubber plate etc. to cover the worn area at the clutch and stop it going the way the original did with a hole right through it as indicated by the white plastic bag that's been stuck to the carpet's underside.
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DASH CAM
We've all seen these before, but I thought I'd quickly show how I concealed my new dash cam wiring by placing it behind the headlining and hard-wiring it to avoid using the 12V socket. The dash cam bracket was stuck to the painted steel section of the roof to avoid impacting on the windscreen too much and it fits there nicely between the interior light and sunvisor,

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The power supply and fuse were fitted to the back of the large blanking plate that is below the driver's seat belt real, so providing easy access if required but also concealing all the wiring. The yellow 'parking guard' wire was connected with the red +12V wire as I wasn't using the 'parking guard' feature but still wanted the yellow wire to be protected by a suitable fuse instead of the main circuit fuse at the fuse box which would be too large for the small size of the yellow wire in the event of a fault to earth. Really the manufacturer should have included an inline fuse for the yellow wire as well as the red. The power supply was in turn connected to the brown/white striped cable (feed to rear wiper motor) therefore the camera only comes on when the car's running.

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Nice and neat, love your new third brake light and the dashcam. May I ask which dashcam you purchased? I was thinking of getting one as well but I'm not too sure yet!

As for the carpet, would a mat cover that area to prevent a hole being made, or is it next to where a mat would go? I have some custom fit mats that I bought for 20-30 off of eBay and they fit perfectly!
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I got the dashcam as a Christmas present from my brother and it's a nano q, I think he got it from Amazon. Mine doesn't show speed as it didn't come with the GPS mounting base that you also need inorder for it to work; something to bear in mind.

I've never had or used one before but I think it's a great job after playing about with it so far in the Punto for last while using the supplied cigar lighter charger. I bought two additional hardwiring kits to suit this camera in addition to the one in Pandani which I fitted first, each of these two new hardwiring kits is for the Punto and the Mito, and I'll follow up with an additional camera. I'll have two cameras in total but as Pandani is only to be on the road for six months of the year it will share its camera with one of the other cars. Wiring it into the Punto isn't as straight forward as Pandani, there's a serious amount of wiring in that Punto compared to the Panda with ECUs and 'multi timer units' to consider. I prefer the simplicity of the Panda though the Punto's been a very reliable workhorse that use for my job; only cost 800 with 62k miles.

Unfortunately a mat won't cover that worn area in the carpet were the clutch sits, I think the only solution is a large plastic or aluminium patch. I don't mind too much as the carpet came back from steam cleaner as good as new, especially when you compare it against my original carpet that in a real bad state with holes.

Stick up a photo of your custom mats and I'll see if they would cover it please; I'm open to other solutions. I've just thought of a single long mat that would go along both footwells and over the centre 'hump' and so cover the worn area, but maybe it will look odd.
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Thanks for letting me know about the camera, I think it would be wise for me to invest in one, and perhaps one of these hard wired kits or something along those lines so that I can have other things plugged in as well. I haven't used the cigarette lighter but I know that if I got a dashcam I'd end up finding something, my father's sat nav every once in a while perhaps... considering the electronics in a Panda, I imagine it wouldn't be too hard a feat to hard wire it but we shall see

I think you may be right, it may not cover it. I have a couple of pictures of the custom mats anyway. My floor isn't a carpet so I don't have to worry about the clutch area issue you are having but they're useful for chucking the dirt out without getting it all over the bottom of the car anyway. Unfortunately the "grippy surface" underneath still doesn't stick to the floor and it just slides, so the driver's mat is currently stuck down with double sided tape. Works a dream though
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Rear mats just because I've got the picture... let me know if you need any more pictures, these ones are back from when I got the mats last year!
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Good looking mats...!
Strange you haven't got a floor carpet
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lukmek - Thanks for the link to the carpet. I actually came across a similar carpet about 3 months' ago on ebay that was also LHD and charcoal colour and said I would get one if nothing better came along. Ricambio Int. were also going to sell me a carpet but it too was charcoal and LHD. A trip to Binhoker soon resolved that has his blue carpet was considerably better than mine and that was the carpet issue settled, apart from worn area that I've to patch.

FDNY21 - I like those mats, where'd you get them as I would get a set in blue. You can't go wrong with Panda electrics, at least not mine that's only got the traditional distributor and coil ignition and only relays and switches to work with elsewhere. I hate ECUs and things that require software but only because I don't have the diagnostics, I'm too tight to buy the equipment as I wouldn't get the use out of it. Having said that, I've caused an airbag light to come on in the Punto today after playing about with fuses with the ignition on.

It's strange there's no carpet in your Panda, yours seems to have a plastic tray liner instead which is probably more practical and easy to clean. I could give you a blue carpet if you want, it's even got large holes in it and needs a deep clean.
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WASHER FLUID CONTAINER REPLACEMENT

Not much happening that's anyway big to my Panda at the moment unlike other members' cars, I'm just working on smaller stupid type tasks and basically just chicken picking about. I need to replace the rear suspension and axle but that won't be for a while yet and even then I won't be doing the work myself.

The previous owner(s) were very keen on insulating tape and block connectors, so I'm going through the wiring and replacing them with soldered and heat shrink insulated joints. Whilst doing this I'm also taking the opportunity of replacing the washer fluid container as someone had half fitted a replacement washer pump that was slightly too long to fit in the slot designed to hold it in place. I did a bit of research on why this came about and basically Fiat had changed the dimensions of the washer pumps to slightly longer ones and it must have been about 1990 when Pandani was made; Binhoker's Panda 'Lipstick' (believed to be the same year as mine) which donated me the replacement fluid container, used the longer (newer) pumps whilst mine used the older and no longer available smaller pumps.

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Here I'm cleaning the area below the fluid container and treating the small rust patches with Kurust prior to painting. I've also replaced the dodgy tape and connector blocks that were within the loom to one of the washer pump plugs as well as the headlamp unit; the replacement joints are soldered and insulated with heat shrink tubing.
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This shows the old washer pumps still attached to the old container, a newer type washer pump is held up against it to show the difference. I've acquired a number of washer pumps which I'll keep as spares and as I'm fitting the newer type container it will accept both new and old type pumps. It's easier to fit something small into something big than try something big in something too small.
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Quote Originally Posted by lukmek View Post
Good looking mats...!
Strange you haven't got a floor carpet
Cheers! It is a bit strange indeed, but easy to clean and doesn't look bad after many years of use
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FDNY21 - I like those mats, where'd you get them as I would get a set in blue. You can't go wrong with Panda electrics, at least not mine that's only got the traditional distributor and coil ignition and only relays and switches to work with elsewhere. I hate ECUs and things that require software but only because I don't have the diagnostics, I'm too tight to buy the equipment as I wouldn't get the use out of it. Having said that, I've caused an airbag light to come on in the Punto today after playing about with fuses with the ignition on.

It's strange there's no carpet in your Panda, yours seems to have a plastic tray liner instead which is probably more practical and easy to clean. I could give you a blue carpet if you want, it's even got large holes in it and needs a deep clean.
They are nice. Checked back on the old purchase and I bought these ones: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Panda...-/350520418241

The company does a wide variety of colour combinations, if you want some blue outline ones then here's that, but I recommend checking their other ones to see which ones would suit you best: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Panda...IjP_sxVCSS6wDQ

My Panda has the dizzy, but nonetheless it's not all too bad when compared to the mind boggling amount of electronics in new cars...

Yes, it's like a plastic/rubber type liner, I like it because it won't wear massively over time and it is easy to clean. The mats make it even easier to throw the leaves out and gives it a good look with the black/red combo as well, just one of those neat little things I had to have when I got the car!

Not sure how the blue carpet with holes would look in a red Panda
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Thanks FDNY21 for the link to the mats; just gone ahead and bought a set of blue ones with black trim. I like the fact they're custom made to suit the car. Brilliant

Nobody wants my old blue carpet with holes. Can't think why. Anyways, it's probably just as well as I'm thinking of cutting a piece out of it and getting it edge bound to make a patch for the worn bit, hopefully to make it look like it was always meant to be there.

That plastic floor liner you have would be a good job for 4x4 Pandas that like to be in and amongst the muck, I've seem many 4x4 interiors destroyed for this reason.
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... I'm just working on smaller stupid type tasks...
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No task is to small to work on, while you do small repairs your 'horizons are getting wider' so you can move further to more and more complicated tasks (we're still talking about pandas).


If I recall correctly I've been in the 'two type of pump' situation and I think I've manage to take them apart ( pump and motor assembly) and swap what was broken.
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