it will all end up like before everyone fighting every one else over who should be here and who shouldnt. then when the smoke clears we realise the government has shafted up the arse from another angle, like thatcher did when she sold off all the stuff we owned
I have tried (and failed) to stay out of this debate. Didn't this start with some attention - seeking rabble rousers, who happen to be muslims burning some poppys for effect? How did Mrs Thatcher get dragged into this? Are you blaming her for that as well?
As ever Beard hits the nail on the head (maybe somebody hit him on the head which is why he never finished the post!). This country has always welcomed anybody who wants to come here, and join our wider community, and play their part. In a simplistic way, if you threw a house party and everybody was generally getting on fine, until a group turned up and started telling you that your politics were wrong, your beliefs were wrong because they didn't agree with theirs, and threatening all manner of carnage unless you changed. You would throw them out of the party, but everybody else would still be welcome.
If the reference to Mrs T was a swipe at all politicians, then I take the point. At no point have the electorate been given a say or a choice in immigration policy, and now it is too late. See the situation in France, Germany, Italy, Scandinavia etc.
A very close friend of mine is a Pakistani who has come to live here with his family, on a Highly Skilled Migrant Visa . He is in a minority because he and all his family are devout Catholics. He was under regular threat in Lahore from having his house, the children's school, and their Church fire bomberd, shot at, you name it. So now he lives here. But he has done everything by the book. He has had to prove that he can support himself and his family with his own work. He has to have a mimimum of several thousand pounds in his account for a year. He has no recourse to public funds. He was awarded leave to stay for 3 years based on a points system, which takes into account all the above, plus him having a Masters degree in business. This process has personally cost his family thousands of pounds, and he is not a wealthy guy.
So now he is here,working for himself, his kids at school and attending Mass every Sunday, and already a school Governor after 15 months. Believe me, if he was on this forum he would tell you things that would make your hair stand on end, and he cannot believe or understand why he has had to go through so many expensive hoops (which if he failed or couldn't pay for, his family would have been deported) when he finds here thousands of immigrants or children of immigrants who seem to hate this country so much. Standing at Manchester airport recently with him a flight came in from Pakistan and he was horrified at what he saw coming in, all holding British passports. I almost had to restrain him.
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