Bought my wife a fiat 500 automatic a 12 plate. Recently as we are driving along it beeps and tben goes into neutral! We had it in the local garage , but they couldn't find the problem, if a yone has any ideas would love to hear them. We live in Fife Scotland. Many Thanks.
Bought my wife a fiat 500 automatic a 12 plate. Recently as we are driving along it beeps and tben goes into neutral! We had it in the local garage , but they couldn't find the problem, if a yone has any ideas would love to hear them. We live in Fife Scotland. Many Thanks.
Instead of spending 500 pounds on an old unit, why not spend 1000 and get a 2 year Fiat manufacturer warranty with it? I find that much more reliable.You have a Fiat / Alfa specialist garage near you - http://www.mclennansgarage.com/fiat/
They come recommended from the Alfa forum I notice and if they are used to the selespeed autobox actuators on the Alfa's they shouldn't have too much issue with your Fiat Dualogic box, which is basically very similar.
Then assuming the actuator isn't leaking oil it could be that the pump is no longer able to keep the pressure up.
The bottom line is the pump is available from Shop4parts at £420 + vat or the actuator is £632 + vat delivered next day anywhere in the UK or for a few extra pounds anywhere in the world. Any half decent mechanic or experienced DIYer with some Fiat/Alfa experience and access to MultiECUscan + a couple of litres of TUTELA CS SPEED oil should be able to sort this out in 2-3hours once they have the parts to hand.
Generally the Dualogic box does seem to begin to cause some trouble around the 5-7 year mark - but if you are clever and source the parts yourself as above (once the diagnoses has been done) and get a Fiat/Alfa specialist to fit them then the gearbox should be trouble free for some time.
Automatic gearboxes are generally not as reliable as their manual counterparts - I was recently fleeced for thousands to fix the autobox on a Honda CRV at 5 years, so this isn't a Fiat issue per say and a dualogic replacement is much cheaper than the £4000+ that Honda had off me.
Unfortunately Fiat don't provide any service items for these hydraulic (dualogic) units and then dealers will replace the whole units after much mucking around which shows they don't have much experience with the dualogic set up.
Instead of spending 500 pounds on an old unit, why not spend 1000 and get a 2 year Fiat manufacturer warranty with it? I find that much more reliable.
The Tutela CS level is about 0.8 lt if I remember correctly.
Yes generally I find complaining to Fiat HQ gives you a 10% discount so had mine fitted and replaced for 1000 GBP!You would only get a 2 year Fiat warranty if you get Fiat to fit it! Which is then going around in circles since many of the people on this thread find Fiat too expensive.
According to that link for the recon unit, if you are in the UK and can get the car to the guy, he will fit it for £425!
As for the correct level - 1 ltr gives you little room for errors
Yes generally I find complaining to Fiat HQ gives you a 10% discount so had mine fitted and replaced for 1000 GBP!
If mine breaks again I will try for a bigger discount as a regular customer of Dualogic units!
No you are wrong, Fiat give the whole unit including pump and actuator for 1000 GBP.Fiat list the Actuator at over £1000 alone and the pump is near £600 + £60 per hour labour + Vat
On a 5-7 year old car good luck with that one
No you are wrong, Fiat give the whole unit including pump and actuator for 1000 GBP.
Well they are being naughty. Take it up with Fiat UK.Fiat Watford quoted me £1800 in parts alone when i asked them!?
No you are wrong, Fiat give the whole unit including pump and actuator for 1000 GBP.
No, in Greece with a Fiat main dealer, but I had gotten Fiat HQ involved. Another main Fiat dealer in Greece quoted 2000 EUR+, but I did not use them. It's best to shop around many Fiat dealers, the price differences between dealers are very surprising!You had yours replaced by a Fiat dealer in the UK??
When you really read into the drama, most problems are caused by a fluid leak, which tends to be cured by replacing the entire actuator.
I don't believe that Dualogic problems are very common, considering the large number of Pandas, Puntos, and 500s fitted with this system.
The diagnostic process is what's important here.