Project Cinq!

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Project Cinq!

If the engine needs to come out again, the project is over, i'll be breaking for spares and cutting my losses, no danger am i buying another engine. I've already decided that, so no :laugh:
 
Mings rattled at the same revs. I think it turned out to be the hydro shims. His was drove like a nun whilst running in then one day just started.

I know they revved it up Ect but I've also never. Ever ever herd of a engine breaking from being revved from cold straight away. It's a long term damage that gets caused. Don't think you could break it in one go. Certainly not before it's warmed up. You would certainly have to do it quite a lot. Unless there was already a problem there.
 
got the gearbox back on today, tracing lots of little niggles and sorting them out as i go, sadly the o/s driveshaft tripod fell apart trying to get it back in, so need to change that now too.

Clock, wouldn't surprise me if it was the hydro shims, it sounded a little "shim'y"...as in an 8v with a few out of tolerance shims, it's that kind of rattle, would also explain why it suddenly stopped at higher revs if the oil pressure suddenly "cured" it, any idea how to solve it?
 
I'll ask Ming. What where the other problems dude??.


The way I look at it seems to be different.. Yeh it failed on stupid things.... But.. there so easily fixed for the free retest there isn't a need to be annoyed.

Get this rattle sorted and its all cheapo easy fixed that I'd be happy is all it needed....

Look at it this way. If they have been over it with a fine tooth comb and that's all they could find.. You have total security in the rest of the work.I'd perso ally rather have that than a quick look over and a stamp. As now it's known its all ok not assumed
 
But it failed on stuff that wasn't even there! A loose fuel filter that can't move, insecure wiring that is more secure than standard, a handbrake cable that is "inproperly repaired"...which hasn't been repaired, it's new!, that place will never pass it. I can't fix faults that don't exist!, i'll take it elsewhere.

emissions are high so i'm hoping the cat hasn't gone bad, but at least i've a few things to work on to solve, so really the rattle is just the big problem. Will see if it's still there and change the oil, see if that helps.
 
I can't actually remember!, think it's 10w 40 or 5w 40 from memory. Surely if it was that though, it wouldn't just happen suddenly? Before the mot there wasn't even the slightest rattle at any point of the rev range at any temp, i've had it properly hot after bleeding the coolant, had it running for the best part of 2 hours non stop at varying loads and it sounded mechanically as sweet as you could get. Did on mot day too, until i picked it up.

It's a really weird one, it still sounded sweet at idle all the way up to around 2.5k then it sounds like something instantly "fails" and one or 2 tappets just go miles out of tolerance, then about 4k it stops again instantly and is sweet again all the way up to the limiter. Even coming back down the revs to idle it doesn't rattle. Just at that 2.5-4k under load it sounds like a bag of nails. Wonder if there's just been crap loosened and i've a slightly clogged tappet... hope an oil flush, more new fresh oil and filter "might" solve it.

I know i've got oil in the top end at least because 1) it's an isolated rattle to one part of the rev range, and 2) when i took out the cam timing lock bung, i get a little oil trickle.
 
It would be worth trying "Forte" engine flush and some fresh oil, it cured a similar tappity noise on my last HGT. Could be a slight interference fit on one of the buckets, especially after an engine build if it's not the same bucket in the same bore.
 
Time i did an update i guess

Well, it's still "alive" and i'm hoping to put it in for an mot at the end of this week. It's been rebuilt and done some running but now looks a sorry state right now because i've started going to town on the bodywork seeing as it's not running right (more on that later), so to give me something to do meantime whilst sorting that, i've filled and prepped the horrible cracked, faded pink bootlid and primed it up ready for a topcoat later in the week.

The delay in the mot is down to an idiling problem at hot, (perfect at cold) i believe this is why my emissions were so poor on the last test...suspected Lambda failure, which i suppose given the lambda is my old one and it will have been cooked from running on a car with failed piston rings before isn't a huge shock. annoying still.

The rattle is "fixed", it's whining now instead. Tightening up the timing belt has cured it even though the rattle was certainly coming from one of cylinder 4's exhaust tappets, but i seem to have gone a little too tight and have a whiney pulley now, i'll take a little belt tension off and hopefully strike a happy medium of no rattles or whines.

The rest of the car has been redone to a total nonsense of a spec so that even a place like the last mot lot couldn't accuse faults where there are none. Plastic clips replaced by metal ones, approx 100 cable ties around the car securing wires, NOTHING moves or can be moved into places to allegedly foul stuff.
 
I was so very glad to read some of your posts over on FF and discover that you hadn't given up on this. Even more so now you're attacking the body work as well.

This is going to be a fabulous car once you're finished
 
Thanks Andi, but It's 99% likely to not be appearing at WCR. I'm just hoping for mot this week but i'll see how it goes, plus the place it normally goes for a test is normally a 2 week wait to get in, so....
 
Harper said:
I was so very glad to read some of your posts over on FF and discover that you hadn't given up on this. Even more so now you're attacking the body work as well.

This is going to be a fabulous car once you're finished

Thanks, i really just needed a very short break from it after the letdown of the nonsense things on the mot and then that rattle developing, I ended up taking the gearbox off again to check a few things and in struggling to even get it back up to a height to get it on had to walk away for a few days because the whole thing had stressed me out so much and was so mentally shot by it all, there was a serious danger of something going through the windscreen :laugh: showed what stress had done to me, when i got back to it a few days later the gearbox was on again in about half an hour. Since then i've just been working under the radar and trying to perfect things. Found a few other small jobs like the o/s inner cv joint tripod needing replaced etc so all that's been done too.

It's never going to be a show car, but having got it out for a wee run and gave it a quick clean over, i saw just how much certain parts were really hurting the looks, made worse by the fact the new wing i painted and fitted looked so clean in comparasion, all over there were several chips and scrapes etc, so they've been tidied up already so set about by far the worst bit, the bootlid. It looked awful when it was last on the road, so it was always going to need done. i found a small rust bubble so knowing i was at least a week away from the MOT again, i just thought it was as good a time as any so sorted the rust and started prep on it.

No wonder the bootlid was such a faded mess, in treating that little bubble i found that when they smoothed over the boot lock, they just painted it. no evidence of primer even, 10 seconds of sanding with a 600 grit and i was through to the bare metal. Basically it's been sanded back to bare metal and had one or 2 coats of paint, that's it. No Primer, no lacquer. I have a receipt in the folder for that job from a previous owner, done in 2003 at a cost of £2100! (including a bad boy bonnet, which thankfully somebody removed and saved me the bother of locating a skip). The standard was awful, somebody was robbed, the overall work was worse than the worst "bad examples" we were shown at panel beating classes at college.

Anyways, when the boot is done i'll replace the bonnet with the shiney non faded one in my garage, t-cut the rest of it all together and hopefully it'll be a lot tidier than it was.

I know from the few short drives in it i've had lately just how good this wee thing can be if all is right, that's been the difference between chucking it in and being determined to make it happen.
 
Mrcento said:
Thanks Andi, but It's 99% likely to not be appearing at WCR. I'm just hoping for mot this week but i'll see how it goes, plus the place it normally goes for a test is normally a 2 week wait to get in, so....

My post had a large dose of Sarcasm in it.

I gathered it wouldn't make WCR, hence the :p smiley.

Like with Katie, I'm glad you've not given up on the Cinq, yes it's been stressing you out, but you took the sensible option to walk away & leave it for a few days which helped you.

Anyway I've no doubt I'll see the Cinq some time in the future & good luck with the MOT, lets hope Garage No.2 Pass it & not go "Ooh look a modified car, let's thrash the nuts off it & fail it on everything we can!"
 
Got a quick pic of the Cinq and BMW together, still need loads of bodywork done and a few things re-done, but at least my bootlid is vaguely attempting to match the rest of the car now :laugh:

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