matthew.raine
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You can make the test as fancy as you like, but it won't stop 17 year olds in Saxos thinking they can tool it into hairpins at 90
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The National Speed Limit on a single carriageway road is 60 mph. This equates to 84 ft/sec. Or if you like, about 27 mtrs/sec. It doesn't take much to get it wrong. A bit too much understeer at 60, you over-correct and it develops into oversteer and you spin off into a tree. Scenery 1 - Car 0. If you know how to set the car up for a bend correctly, then you stand a much better chance of coming out the other side. You might even enjoy driving on that type of road. On most National Speed Limit roads, you should be able to drive at that speed, but it's up to you as the driver to adjust your speed to suit the conditions. There will always be some roads on which you think, "Which idiot thinks 60 is OK on this narrow twisty road?" You need to remember that the white, round sign with the black diagonal band on it used to mean "No speed limit". That meant that the local authority had simply decided not to impose a limit on that road and leave it up to the individual to use his or her common sense and drive at an apropriate speed for that road. But, by implication, that meant you couldn't be prosecuted for speeding because there wasn't a limit. When the Motorways were first built, the same signs appeared on those roads. This limit became 70 with the advent of the "E-type Jaguar and its reported 150 top speed, remember that cars like the Morris 1100, Vauxhall Viva, Hillman Imp and Ford Anglia would struggle to exceed 80, and even big cars like the Vauxhall Cresta, Ford Zodiac and Austin Westminster would only just scrape past 100. It took the likes of the Jaguar Mk2 or Mercedes 350E to pass 120. With the "E-Type" and reports of AC Cars testing their Cobra 428 (7-litre) at 170 on the M1 scared the government of the day so much they introduced the 70 limit. But, that meant that because of the No Speed Limit "rule", you could drive faster on a rural road than you could on the Motorway. Eventually, 60 became the National Speed Limit on single cariiageway roads. That's the reason those white signs are seen on narrow roads. You, as the driver decide, based on the road, traffic and weather conditions, how close you drive to the prevailing limit. Hope that makes sense, because as I'm writing this at 02:44 on Monday morning and my brain has just farted.just found this tread thought id put some comments across as im young ..
does nobody else feel that even if this does not make young (boyracers) drivers slow down it would make them "safer" at speed no matter what you do people will always break a speed limit and not a single person can say they never have !! a coarse like this could if anything make those that choose to speed slightly safer whilst doing it as they would have had experience in a safe controled environment ..
my driving instructor said to me " i know that when you get your driving license you will speed .. even if it for a few minutes a few days weeks or year hell ven your whole life .. so you may aswell learn to do it safely with me atleast that way you still a knoob on the road but a safer one at that .. " he then told me to put my foot down.. this was on my second lesson so it was scary as hell and continued for a few lessons .. i can honestly say thet i try to stick to the speed limits of there abouts (max 5-10 over on quiets roads) and on some i feel that the spped limit is too fast and very ubnsafe i.e country roads with nationsal limit (single track roads) wat the hell so its acceptable fopr me to drive unsafely at the speed limit in the coutry but not acceptable for me to drive safely just above the speed limit on a much larger empty road away from padestrions ect .. some limits are way off the mark ..
The National Speed Limit on a single carriageway road is 60 mph. This equates to 84 ft/sec. Or if you like, about 27 mtrs/sec. It doesn't take much to get it wrong. A bit too much understeer at 60, you over-correct and it develops into oversteer and you spin off into a tree. Scenery 1 - Car 0. If you know how to set the car up for a bend correctly, then you stand a much better chance of coming out the other side. You might even enjoy driving on that type of road. On most National Speed Limit roads, you should be able to drive at that speed, but it's up to you as the driver to adjust your speed to suit the conditions. There will always be some roads on which you think, "Which idiot thinks 60 is OK on this narrow twisty road?" You need to remember that the white, round sign with the black diagonal band on it used to mean "No speed limit". That meant that the local authority had simply decided not to impose a limit on that road and leave it up to the individual to use his or her common sense and drive at an apropriate speed for that road. But, by implication, that meant you couldn't be prosecuted for speeding because there wasn't a limit. When the Motorways were first built, the same signs appeared on those roads. This limit became 70 with the advent of the "E-type Jaguar and its reported 150 top speed, remember that cars like the Morris 1100, Vauxhall Viva, Hillman Imp and Ford Anglia would struggle to exceed 80, and even big cars like the Vauxhall Cresta, Ford Zodiac and Austin Westminster would only just scrape past 100. It took the likes of the Jaguar Mk2 or Mercedes 350E to pass 120. With the "E-Type" and reports of AC Cars testing their Cobra 428 (7-litre) at 170 on the M1 scared the government of the day so much they introduced the 70 limit. But, that meant that because of the No Speed Limit "rule", you could drive faster on a rural road than you could on the Motorway. Eventually, 60 became the National Speed Limit on single cariiageway roads. That's the reason those white signs are seen on narrow roads. You, as the driver decide, based on the road, traffic and weather conditions, how close you drive to the prevailing limit. Hope that makes sense, because as I'm writing this at 02:44 on Monday morning and my brain has just farted.
Police drivers are trained to different levels. At response level they are trainedQ1.
Q2 what is the general opinion amongst the masses in relation to the standard of Police Drivers. I am not talking about years ago as the training has changed in the last five or so a year which means that all Officers are trained to advanced level to be a response driver (lights and sirens). `How would young driver feels about being given the change to learn advanced driving skills by a trained police driver. I.e. advanced corning, observation overtaking etc.
This isn't all police drivers, but emergency servies in general, but even when they dont have the lights on etc, I've seen them driving stupidly, lost count of the times when I'm going down the motorway and they've gone past me, atleast 100mph.
Would there be a difference between getting trained by the police, and doing pass plus? We learn about observation and overtaking in pass plus (Would advanced cornering just make people take more risks?).
Q3 what is the general view of the IAM (institute of advanced motorists). Is this still viewed as old folk with flat caps and driving gloves?
Dont know what it is.
Q5 Do you drivers feel that the majority are being let down by the minority. I.e. one or two bad “Boy Racers” are resulting in all young drivers being classed as hooligans. If so if there was a way for you to prove that you were a better driver would you do it?
Of course, its like everyone that wears a hoody is going to mug you, I've never crashed (Well I have, but they wheren't my fault), I consider myself as a safe driver (Keep to the speed limits, dont take risks etc), and I'm still paying loads for insureance because of a few people.