General Mystery button?

[Phoenixflier]

Just got a low mileage 2010 1.2 Panda eco.

Minor mystery as to the instrument cluster buttons!.

On the right hand side there are two buttons and a clock icon, one button adjusts up the other down.

However, there is another unmarked button next to the clock icon, which does appear to do anything!.

Nothing obious in the handbook.

Any body any idea what this does please?

 

[GeorgeDamper]

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[Phoenixflier]

Cheers

Really helpful!

Have a nice day.

 

[Jockcl500]

I have looked at the same button on my 2010 dynamic eco, I had assumed it changed the clock display, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything.

 

[Phoenixflier]

Thanks for that, glad its not just me.

All a bit odd tho!

 

[koalar]

depends which dash display you have

simple display the top increases the clock the bottom decrease and middle nothing


With the more advanced displays the middle one changes mode so you can set the date as well


if the middle does anything it will say mode next to it and the dash will display the outside temperature


https://www.manualslib.com/manual/451836/Fiat-Panda.html?page=22#manual

 

[benj111]

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Is there something else I need to do, because I've parked in a pond, and pressed the button and nothings happened, except my floor mats are getting damp.

I don't have the sun roof, is that important?

 

[portland_bill]

Is there something else I need to do, because I've parked in a pond, and pressed the button and nothings happened, except my floor mats are getting damp.

I don't have the sun roof, is that important?

I bet its not blue with a white stripe either. Needs all detail to work.

 

[rmjbn1]

if the middle does anything it will say mode next to it and the dash will display the outside temperature

:yeahthat: Hi Phoenixflier,

This button only performs functions on top of the range Pandas. Not sure if that's all Eleganzas & 100HPs or all cars fitted with climate control?

This button does nothing on my 1.2 Dynamic with manual air conditioning.

Here's pages 19-22 of the owners' handbook to show you what you could have had!

You might find some other odds & ends floating about in your car for things that weren't included in our lower-spec models. For example, there might be connectors for electric mirrors under the door cards, and maybe a connector for a boot light. These aren't present on all cars though.

 

[portland_bill]

You might find some other odds & ends floating about in your car for things that weren't included in our lower-spec models. For example, there might be connectors for electric mirrors under the door cards, and maybe a connector for a boot light. These aren't present on all cars though.

Don't get too excited if you find wiring for other bits, often it will not be connected at the other end, and with things like bootlamp or 12v socket, there might be no connections at the fuse box. Retrofitting these things can get complicated.

 

[varesecrazy]

Cheers

Really helpful!

Have a nice day.

So what spec is your 169?

 

[jrkitching]

So what spec is your 169?

A 2010 Dynamic Eco as standard should have manual A/C & Remote Locking, rev counter, manual mirrors (the big ones), electric front windows and a CD radio (which can also play .mp3 formatted CD's). It also qualifies for £30 RFL and is the last of the 1.2's with a fail-safe cambelt engine. It's Euro 4, so exempt from the London ULEZ charge, at least for now.

It could have been bought new in its day for a little over £6500 (IIRC I paid £6680 for mine; list was just over £9K); pretty good value for that lot and possibly the cheapest proper 4cyl car with A/C at the time. Back then, a (broadly equivalent) 500 pop with A/C would have cost you close on ten grand, without a sniff of a discount - the price of fashion.

This model is everything Fiat are best at; history may show this to be the best all round Fiat ever, period.

I'd buy another like a shot if they still made 'em, but when the time comes to replace mine, the current model Panda probably won't even make it onto the long list.

 

[varesecrazy]

No Active ECO by then?

They seemed pretty sparse when we looked in that era.

 

[irc]

My son has a 2010 Active Eco, so they did exist. Not seen many others though.

 

[Jockcl500]

:yeahthat: Hi Phoenixflier,

This button only performs functions on top of the range Pandas. Not sure if that's all Eleganzas & 100HPs or all cars fitted with climate control?

This button does nothing on my 1.2 Dynamic with manual air conditioning.

Here's pages 19-22 of the owners' handbook to show you what you could have had!
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You might find some other odds & ends floating about in your car for things that weren't included in our lower-spec models. For example, there might be connectors for electric mirrors under the door cards, and maybe a connector for a boot light. These aren't present on all cars though.

The electric mirror control on the dynamic is on the centre consol, the wiring is probably on all models, even if the switch is not always included.

 

[jrkitching]

No Active ECO by then?

They seemed pretty sparse when we looked in that era.

Yes, they were sold in parallel to the Dynamic ECO.

I drove both, back to back, when they were both current models - the 1.1 engine has substantially less torque below 2000 rpm, making the car a pain to drive in city traffic, since you're constantly on the gearbox. The Euro 4 1.2 runs much more comfortably at 30mph in fifth (it's better than the Euro5 in this respect).

A/C was never even an option on the Active ECO; the 1.1 in that state of tune wouldn't have coped. Also cheaper trim, no revcounter, no remote locking (it did have manual central locking though) and a much less flexible engine made it a poor choice for all but the tightest of budgets.

From memory, it was about £1000 cheaper to buy new; fuel economy was marginally worse with the lower powered engine and both were £30RFL. Upgrading to the 1.2 dynamic was £1000 well spent.

Interestingly both cars had to run 13" steel wheels to make the RFL cut; it took the VVT Euro 5 engine (fitted to the very last of the 169's) to keep emissions (on paper) below 119g/km with alloys fitted.

It's also why the 1.2 Eleganza never made it into the £30 tax band.

The 1.1 engine never made it into Euro5, so the very last 169 Actives got the 1.2 engine, and the very last Dynamics had alloys as standard.

 

[portland_bill]

Interestingly both cars had to run 13" steel wheels to make the RFL cut; it took the VVT Euro 5 engine (fitted to the very last of the 169's) to keep emissions (on paper) below 119g/km with alloys fitted.

It's also why the 1.2 Eleganza never made it into the £30 tax band.

The Alessi is based on the Eleganza, but uses the 13" steels for the Alessi wheeltrims. Sadly, registered as an Eleganza, so pays the higher tax, although the climate control probably drags it above the CO2 threshold anyway.

 

[Phoenixflier]

Mine is the 1.2 Dynamic Eco. No Air Con, tiny mirrors. Had all sorts of problems, and only had it a week. Sump leaking oil badly, Drivers footwell one inch deep in water, headlight held in by one bolt etc. Back to the dealer tomorrow yet again. Prepared to be patient with it, but will probably sell it in a couple weeks!.

 

[Johnbee]

My current Panda is a 2010 60reg 1.1 Active Eco. Red badge, big mirrors and totally standard apart from window deflectors and a rear Active badge. Goes well enough up and down the A21 with my Greyhound on board.

It’s been super reliable and I’ve only had to put a set of tyres on it and some new front shocks in the three years I’ve had it. Whilst I’ve only covered 12k in that time - 7k was added in the first three months of this year. Just ticked over 40k a month or so ago.

With regard to the mystery button, I have one to show the odometer or mileage (top). One which does nothing (middle) and one which increases the time by the minute (bottom). It’s a pain when the clocks go back !

My sister in law has a Black 2011 61 reg Active Eco with the 1.2 engine with the grey outer and blue inner seats. Hers is standard too but does have a bit more oomph due to extra horses in the 1.2 It’s been reliable as well and only needed a new back wheel - as it was buckled when she bought it.

Both £30 tax.

 

[portland_bill]

Mine is the 1.2 Dynamic Eco. No Air Con, tiny mirrors. Had all sorts of problems, and only had it a week. Sump leaking oil badly, Drivers footwell one inch deep in water, headlight held in by one bolt etc. Back to the dealer tomorrow yet again. Prepared to be patient with it, but will probably sell it in a couple weeks!.

Sumps become porous due to rust, from the outside hopefully. If you've only had it a week, and bought from a dealer, they shold replace the sump under warranty.

Footwell wet is caused by the 'duckbills' being blocked.
There is a chamber below the windscreen, which fills with water, and then overflows into the car.
There are two black 'duckbills' that allow water to drain, but keep engine fumes out, as the chamber feeds the heater with air. Dead leaves and other airborne debris get in, and block the duckbills, creating a spoonful of compost if you wish to put it onto your garden.
With the bonnet up, look at the back of the engine bay and find the two drain tubes (duckbills), give them a squeeze to allow the gunge and water to flow out. Do this frequently.
Do this asap, as water into the footwell can get onto the body computer, and create all sorts of electrical issues.

The headlamp mountings can break off. Replacement brackets are available, from Fiat, or eBay. Bumper has to drop to get the headlamp out, but not too difficult.

If bought from a dealer, get them to fix it all, free.