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Anyone else been contacted by a company called Expresscarprices.com? They are trying to get £39 out of me for a car valuation!! I would never pay for a car valuation and certainly not £39. They claim to have my IP address from when they claim I ordered this valuation and they certainly have my e-mail address, name and home address.
I've asked people I know if this is some kind of joke but nobody's owning up to it.
 
Anyone else been contacted by a company called Expresscarprices.com? They are trying to get £39 out of me for a car valuation!! I would never pay for a car valuation and certainly not £39. They claim to have my IP address from when they claim I ordered this valuation and they certainly have my e-mail address, name and home address.
I've asked people I know if this is some kind of joke but nobody's owning up to it.

Scam... ignore it and if they pursue you ask them for proof.
 
If they contact you again, just tell them you are a car salesman for a big dealer and therefore you know exactly how much your car is worth. Except of course you'd have a firm's car. Then tell them that if they persist you will pass on their details to the Cyber Crimes Squad at your local Police HQ.
 
The following does not constitute legal advice and is not represented as a substitute for legal advice from an appropriately qualified person or firm.

Dear Sirs,
Re: Your letter dated [dd/mmmm/yyyy] Reference[#]

I refer to previous correspondence. [#]

Unless you provide evidence to substantiate your claim against me I shall be unable to assist you further in this matter and I absolutely deny any liability to you for this claim.

Yours faithfully


If they contact you again (unlikely), and they have failed to substantiate their claim against you then the following should suffice

CEASE & DESIST NOTICE

Dear Sirs,
Re: Your letter dated [dd/mmmm/yyyy] Reference[#]

I refer to previous correspondence.

I do not feel that you are acting reasonably in this matter.

I have asked you to provide evidence to substantiate your claim against me and you have not done so.

Unless you provide evidence to support your claim against me I shall be unable to help you further in this matter.

This alleged debt therefore remains disputed by me. Save for supplying the evidence referred to above I must ask you to cease and desist correspondence with me.

Other than as described above, any further correspondence from you or any other party in relation to this matter will result in a complaint to the authorities under the Protection From Harassment Act 1997.

Yours faithfully


Any chance you can post a copy of the letter, obviously excluding your name, address and such.

Tom
 
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***UPDATE***
First of all a thanks to Andy Monty who put me onto the moneysavingexpert site and their consumer revenge pages.

Expresscarprices or Express Payment Limited sent me an invoice for a car valuation I didn't want and certainly wasn't going to pay £39 for. I sent them a letter saying it was nothing to do with me and they sent a letter back saying how seriously they take fraudulent transaction and how they would pass it on to some fraud department.

Then a few days later they send me a 'reminder' giving me 7 days to pay up or they will start adding late payment fees. I talked to Consumer direct again, not particularly help the second time, and sent them another letter telling them they're not allowed to add late payment fees when the transaction is in dispute.

I found out that this company is owned by some Swedish guy and has company secretary who lives in Watford. The name on any letters or e-mails is John, no surname just John. The company charges VAT on invoices but does not display a VAT registration number. The name to look out for is Express Payment Ltd, they are the ones demanding to be paid.

I'm a little p****d off at this point, having a bad day anyway so I send them a letter telling them if they don't produce evidence of this transaction within 14 days I'll consider the matter closed. After I thought about it for a few days I decided this was not a good plan. For all I know they could add late payment fees without telling me, go to the county court and get a judgement and next thing you know I would have debt collectors on my doorstep.

So I do half an hours research into consumer protection legislation, find the Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations (2000) and bingo! I've got them! If I did order this thing they would have to, by law, have sent me a confirmation with all kinds of details including cancellation rights in it. If I had got anything like that trying to charge me £39 it would have been cancelled quick smart. You're entitled to a 7 day cooling off period when you buy stuff over the net, this can be extended to 3 months and 7 days in they don't send you all the required information in the confirmation. So even though I didn't order it, I cancelled it.

I sent a letter explaining the law to them and basically but politely telling them to shove it where the sun don't shine. It's been nearly a week and I haven't heard from them, I gave them 14 days to respond. The next step in my evil plan is to start charging them an admin fee for every letter I send them until they confirm the invoice has been cancelled :D I think £10 per letter is fair.:rolleyes:

IMPORTANT: If you get a valuation and invoice from these people don't just ignore it. I know Expresscarprices / Express Payment Ltd have got debt collectors onto other people they have demanded money from.
 
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The company charges VAT on invoices but does not display a VAT registration number. The name to look out for is Express Payment Ltd, they are the ones demanding to be paid.

If they are charging VAT and not displaying their VAT number then that is serious fraud. Keep the evidence and get straight onto Customs and Excise (VAT office) who will be very interested in a company doing something like this.
 
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is it not that a company must produce a VAT number if requested?

When I was self employed in a partnership I recall that we had to display our VAT number on our all invoices charging VAT. Otherwise what's to stop a non VAT registered fraudulent company charging VAT and pocketing it? Mind you, I was last self employed in 1997 so the rules and regulations may have changed since then.

A quick search on the HMRC website produced this information:

"What information must be shown on a VAT invoice
A VAT invoice must generally show:

an invoice number which is unique and follows on from the number of the previous invoice
the seller's name or trading name and address
the seller's VAT registration number

the invoice date
the tax point - the time when a sale is treated by HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) as taking place - if this is different from the invoice date
the customer's name or trading name and address
a description of the goods or services "


http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/records-valid-invoice.htm

This is interesting because according to HMRC not only must the VAT number be supplied but also the trading name AND ADDRESS.

I'd get straight onto HMRC about this company as they sound like a fraudulent, racketeering organisaton...
 
Loads of supplier invoices pass through my hands every week, and i'd say 15% do not show a VAT number, and some that do are wrong.. either miss printed or an old VAT number.

You looked a VAT invoice though chas.. i think its diefferent to a normal invoice... 'cause you can get VAT receipts to claim it back. Speak to HMRC and explain what is on the invoice.. and if any of it is wrong they will jump on it staright away
 
You looked a VAT invoice though chas.. i think its diefferent to a normal invoice...


Yes, I looked at many. I used to compile VAT invoices to send to customers who traded with my business partnership and I also had to complete the VAT returns every quarter. I've seen far more than I ever wanted to and hope I don't have to see any again ;)

By 'normal' invoice don't you mean a 'receipt'? If you charge VAT on your services then as far as I can see from the HMRC site you have to display your VAT number.

StuDemonD is an accountant so maybe he or someone else specialising in accounts can confirm what the regulations are?
 
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