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Panda (Classic) Project Fallout

Introduction

let me introduce to you, the free panda 4x4 which was first spotted >>Here<<.
First off however, here is the plan:

i will (some how) make the panda look "Post Apocalyptic" yet keep it in a road legal state (so no spikes, sharp rusty edges sadly). We have all seen mad max right? all wanted to replicate a mad max style car?
well let me be the first to attempt this with a fiat panda 4x4.

if anyone here has seen the TV program "Defiance", you surely have seen the epic Doge Charger that looks post apocalyptic. i will be trying to aim for the same theme. with such things as an external roll cadge, external metal mesh / grills covering the windows, custom bull bar, reinforced rear bumper made from tubular metal, custom twin output exhaust, and many many more.

this project is going to be undertaken as cheaply as possible (excluding parts necessary for a safe road going vehicle). reusing as many things as i can find (in scrap yards, freebees), true to a real post apocalyptic constructed vehicle. i will also be taking the "rough is best look" (please note, i say Rough not Rat!) the panda its self of course will undergo all the rust prevention Talon went under when i got him.

anyway, i will leave you a few seconds to build up a mental picture of how a panda 4x4 could look in a post apocalyptic landscape while browsing some of these Pictures.......



ok.. that should do.

First off. i need to get the panda all well and good.
a few things are broken... the exhaust, the front suspension on the passenger side, both rear dampeners are rusted out, the doors are shot but i will try to fix them, the gear stick is really loose and all the roller bearings have dropped out, the wiring is a mess (mice attack!), there are no brakes.. and i mean no brakes, and lets not forget the underside rust.

so today i started by stripping out everything inside the car to get a good look at the floor pan and clean it all out (Dragon Man style!) i found the usual rust: the boot floor is a mess, but easy fixable, a seam has gone just behind the drivers seat anything forward of that seems to be OK, and the back of the sills are just gone so i will need to rebuild that.

the engine runs.. the vac advance line has split so its a bit rough on tickover but it seems good. the fuel tank seems good.. all the 4x4 stuff seems good.

i have go a few pictures took free by a professional photographer! (or should i say someone with an epic camera :p)

Here are a few picture, but please check out >This Album<















like i say, check out the photo album.


i will be keeping >Online video logs< of this, so keep a look out on Youtube too.
here are some videos, both are long but the second one is longer!

Project Fallout a panda 4x4 turned post apocalyiptic - YouTube

Project Fallout Panda 4x4 What to do Post Apocaliptic looking Panda! - YouTube


keep watching guys.. the jet wash will be coming out later today!



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This is how it looks now: :eek::eek::eek: :slayer::slayer::slayer:



basically yes! that is what it is.

i have not done any work on the car today! i was out looking for other bits and bobs and managed to get myself a full car audio kit on a "take out of car now and use.. pay when you can" basis.

not that i am a bass junkie but the kit consists of:
JVC KD-DB52 DAB/CD/USB head unit
Vibe Black air BA6-v2 speakers and tweeters
a rather large Vibe Blackair Bandpass B12 12" 1800W subwoofer with built in amp

plus all the cables and a nice DAB aerial. i got the lot for a grand total of £200.

all i need to get now are some large PA speakers.. then the audio side of the project would be complete.

the guy i got them off had it all in a toyota avensis. he got a new modern car where everything is integrated.. (parking sensors built into the radio kinda thing) so he could not bring all the good stuff over to his new car.

think he knew i was after something like it for the project car so offered them to me.
ill pay him back bit by bit over time :D


i also went to the scrap yard today again. this time to look for a fuel pump off the Ford Mondeo LX TDDI they had in, as that is an in-line pump that pushes 1.5bar of pressure.. ideal for a lift pump! sadly i could not find the car so instead i came out with another 6F ECU and wiring loom from off an M reg cinquecento.

handy ECU's them.. if i could get hold of another punto 75 bare engine + manifolds i would be able to sticky tape that ECU to it and have another fully working 75BHP 1.2L engine :D

shame about the pump but at the end of the day, ebay has small fuel pumps quite cheap.

so all in all.. today has been a good day.
 
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I would like to see that 1.2 75 punto engne managed with cinqecento ECU on the rolls.To test "how many left?" horsy horses with this setup:) . This cinq ecu is from spi or mpi 1.1? 1.2 75 is a full group mpi so it may work somehow with spi ecu, but how well?? tests will tell, rght John? :)
 
well not good news guys. it looks like this ECU wont cut it.

the engine runs when you chuck fuel down the throttle body, but wont run when theres fuel in the injectors.

i am using the punto 75 fuel pump but for some reason it is not running.
theres power getting to the injectors and i have a good earth to the injectors.

not sure whats wrong.

ahh just had a thought.. clever boy here may have wired in the fuel pump the wrong way around. they do work both ways, but one way makes it so it does not pump as good. will have to check that out tomorrow..

its not my fault that ford uses a black with red stripe wire.. i assume that that is a negative when the other wire is some other colour..

may have also wired the injectors the wrong way around.. dont know if they are pole sensitive.

video uploading.. check back again later :D
 
it was the fuel pump wired in the wrong way around... :D

starts and holds RPM but wont idle... i put that down to no downpipe.. and that means no lambda / oxygen sensor and also zero back pressure.
its a shame the block is slightly taller.. would have been nice to have used the original 999cc down pipes.

i think i will just extend the 2 tubes and make the 999cc down pipe "Taller" than it should be. then for the lambda i will fit it to the end of the down pipe where the 2 come into 1.. rather than it being sat in-between the 2. causing massive drag in the pipes.

here is the video you have all been waiting for.. well.. so far anyway...

 
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I use original 1.0 downpipe but with steel spacer between ex. manifold and the downpipe, about 2cm thick steel spacer with the shape of the gasket between the elements ,plus ofcourse two gaskets.Oh and the three m8 bolts must be replaced with longer ones.Works perfect, the cost of watercuttng the spacer was about 7 GBP here?
 
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i ended up going with the cheaper option with the down pipe and just welding extra pipe in..

i have managed to do all the welding in and around the rear wheel arch. i have painted over it all with hammerite, i will let it dry over night then i will then go over it all with underseal mixed with waxyol tomorrow. hopefully i will be able to get all the suspension together tomorrow and wheel back on.
after that the only welding left to do now is the sill!

picture time!



















 
bit of an update. i think i have found the engine number.. and the engines unique ID number. took some cleaning to find it mind but sure enough there on the flat just above the water pump it was.

anyway..

i think i will be swapping out the 6F ecu with one from an 1108cc SPI cinquecento.
it has to be down to ECU the fact the engine wont run right as that indicates that everything is running fine (injector light does not light up when engine "runs")

i have finally done them blooming rear brake lines. its taken me... how long?

so now i have them running to the T piece. just need to get a flexi and that will be good. (i am just going to use a flexi from off the front.. the rear 4x4 flexis are hard to find.. but for reference they are 310mm long.. where as the front ones are 410mm long)


to save me using axle stands i have put an ammo crate to good use:





looking real post nuclear war there.. heh

i talk a bit about fallout on my latest youtube video.. dont know if i should upload it here though as its a bit of a sad one.. i talk about my dad in it.
tomorrow.. monday the 8th is a year since we lost him.. its yeah im a bit hurty inside.

sod it.. ill post the video link too. its a long one sorry guys.



sorry about that.

anyway on a lighter note i have started to thread a brake line down from the front of the car to the rear. i just have enough pipe... i hope.

oh and i have Sam (goodgirl) coming around tomorrow bringing the mk1 4x4 to have its rear drive shaft oil seals replaced.
looks to be easy to do 5 bolts on each wheel.. 4 on the back and the small one that hold the rear inner half shaft in place.
gonna try to cheat and try not to take the brake shoes out. but if i have to.. so be it. ive got that good at fitting brake shoes now in the panda drums i can change them in 10 mins.

yeah.. thats an update i guess.
 
ok, so the car has been completely cleaned out
the handbrake is working great
the brake system is just a rear flexi away from being complete
the fuel tank has been wire brushed and painted
i have de-rusted and undersealed where the fuel tank goes. (ran out of underseal)
the drivers seat is fitted and bolted in


i have not put in the carpet, as i intend to put in a rubber floor i got from out of a panda 750 that was in the scrap yard last year.
ill be modding it so that i can take it out without having to remove the seats for shows and what not.

i have got one of purple Ronnie's doors that i will bolt into place for the mot. as the door that is on fallout is just too "rough" to pass in my eyes.

i may be getting an 1180 ECU, loom, code box and key soon so maybe ill be able to get the engine running eventually.. yey

i am tempted to pop the windscreen out, to check for rust behind the rubbers. nip it in the bud so to speak while it would be easy to fix.

things i need to do are:

weld on a new rear petrol tank fixing stud as it sheared off when i took the tank off
weld the pass side sill
weld a small bit where the tow bar was fixed to

i think that is it for welding, after that it will all be rust proofing.

need to swap the headlamp over
make a bracket for the swirl pot
sort out the cooling system..


theres a few more that i have wrote down on the white board.

i need to get some pics and a video at some point in time.
 
get ready guys...



all the welding has been done!

snapped off fuel tank studs have had stainless replacements welded in.
fuel tank is all ready and painted up to be bolted under the car
all of the cars electronics are working flawlessly.
the stone chipped headlamp has been replaced.
the coolant system has all been connected up.
new(er) coil packs fitted and backing plate (as some of the bolts holding the HV transformers in place had snapped off in the aluminium bracket)


i need about 500ml of zc90 gearbox oil.. i have the rest..

i am going to be putting in the rubber floor in fallout.. but i will cut it in places so that it can remove it easy without unbolting the seats for shows and what not.

so this is a good day.
 
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