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What's made you not grumpy but not smile either today?

Another weekend, another trip to a motor factor..

Again nothing major just the 3rd brake light bulb..so a whole 2 quid. For a car that never breaks down I've been to an awful lot of parts stores and garages in the last 6 months. Two minute job though and all sorted.
 
Bit blind sided by my wife's recently announced choice of car for after the C3 goes back in a year or so. 3rd Citroen on the bounce perhaps? Er not quite, apparently an extremely familiar and by then 9 year old Mazda 3 is the plan.

Oh well at least we'll get the money out of the recent repairs and upgrades. Apparently I'm getting a new car (well I have been talking about it) and she'll have mine, so need to find some money given I'm obviously not going to have a trade in!

Makes sense, she needs to sort her cash flow out e.t.c. to pay down stuff that's gone on for longer than ideal but to say I was surprised is an understatement.
 
Bit blind sided by my wife's recently announced choice of car for after the C3 goes back in a year or so. 3rd Citroen on the bounce perhaps? Er not quite, apparently an extremely familiar and by then 9 year old Mazda 3 is the plan.

Oh well at least we'll get the money out of the recent repairs and upgrades. Apparently I'm getting a new car (well I have been talking about it) and she'll have mine, so need to find some money given I'm obviously not going to have a trade in!

Makes sense, she needs to sort her cash flow out e.t.c. to pay down stuff that's gone on for longer than ideal but to say I was surprised is an understatement.

Read " I have debts honey so while I sort them out its your turn to take on debts" :D
 
Read " I have debts honey so while I sort them out its your turn to take on debts" :D

Entirely correct :D

But the 3 isn't worth enough that I'd get that bent out of shape about it. Was probably going to be traded in for bugger all anyway. Also I get to keep a car I like..and get a new toy as well.
 
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This made me smile -

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Citroen BX Sport 1985 https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1040744

Unfortunately I don't have the cash so that's taken the smile off me face. :(
 
Left rear wheel started making a 'swish....swish....' noise, disappears if brakes pressed.
Wheel and drum off, wheel cylinder trying to seize. Pushed it and it frees off, but next stage will be to leak.
Can't complain, it is 13 years old.
Two new ones now sat waiting to fit, hopefully tomorrow.
 
Just had a recall notice for a Corsa. Apparently the handbrake could fail if it is used incorrectly by PRESSING THE RELEASE BUTTON WHILST APPLYING THE HANDBRAKE?????

So my driving instructor taught me wrong all those years ago! My wife did it once. ONCE....!

Waiting for smartarses to tell me I'm wrong now. This is a forum after all!
 
Just had a recall notice for a Corsa. Apparently the handbrake could fail if it is used incorrectly by PRESSING THE RELEASE BUTTON WHILST APPLYING THE HANDBRAKE?????

So my driving instructor taught me wrong all those years ago! My wife did it once. ONCE....!

Waiting for smartarses to tell me I'm wrong now. This is a forum after all!

How is that a recall notice? Do you have to take it back to a dealer every time you need to apply the handbrake?
 
Just had a recall notice for a Corsa. Apparently the handbrake could fail if it is used incorrectly by PRESSING THE RELEASE BUTTON WHILST APPLYING THE HANDBRAKE?????

So my driving instructor taught me wrong all those years ago! My wife did it once. ONCE....!

Waiting for smartarses to tell me I'm wrong now. This is a forum after all!

Does the handbook say that correct operation is to press the button to apply? Common knowledge isn't always right, perhaps there's a reason the Corsa specifically doesn't want you to do that. Always RTFM.
 
The EU has mandated that all new cars will come with speed control nanny and all sorts of driver "aids" that will lead to even more dopey driving from over insulated drivers. They'll also have always on data tracking so big brother will be watching as well.
 
How is that a recall notice? Do you have to take it back to a dealer every time you need to apply the handbrake?

According to Vauxhall there is a risk that if I "incorrectly" use the "release" button whilst applying the handbrake then the handbrake could fail. Whatever that means. It's a bit sketchy what work they will be doing to "fix" it.

Too many "" in that last paragraph!
 
According to Vauxhall there is a risk that if I "incorrectly" use the "release" button whilst applying the handbrake then the handbrake could fail. Whatever that means. It's a bit sketchy what work they will be doing to "fix" it.

Too many "" in that last paragraph!

A recall is usually for a fix for a safety-related issue. So this is a strange one.
If we heave the lever up without pressing the button, some wear will occur to the ratchet teeth. Eventually, maybe years, the teeth will wear enough to no longer hold. This would be wear & tear on an older car.

If we press the button as we lift the lever, releasing it once applied, little or no wear will occur to the ratchet teeth. Difficult to see how they will 'fix' that.

I have seen many times where people having lifted the handbrake, will release it a little as they release the button. This can drop it down one tooth, which can be enough to allow a vehicle to move. This is a technique issue, and one I have to work hard with to ensure my learners are aware of and learn the correct technique and ensure the handbrake is properly applied. To avoid issues, most manufacturers now advise lifting the lever without pressing the button, to mask any poor technique.

Still don't understand how they make a recall out of this.
 
The EU has mandated that all new cars will come with speed control nanny and all sorts of driver "aids" that will lead to even more dopey driving from over insulated drivers. They'll also have always on data tracking so big brother will be watching as well.



First bit I can see see the point of. Second, no way.

Thankfully it won’t affect us, or at least we have a say on it now.

What either do those things have to do with facilitating international trade though is beyond me lol
 
Just had a recall notice for a Corsa. Apparently the handbrake could fail if it is used incorrectly by PRESSING THE RELEASE BUTTON WHILST APPLYING THE HANDBRAKE?????

So my driving instructor taught me wrong all those years ago! My wife did it once. ONCE....!

Waiting for smartarses to tell me I'm wrong now. This is a forum after all!

I have never held the button In when pulling on the hand brake. Firstly when they engineer a car they know that 99% of people won’t hold in button and so they design the hand brake to be used without the need to hold in the button, it is after all made from steel and not chocolate or sponge, it’s pretty tough.

Secondly the amount of wear on the teeth of an hand brake over the life of a vehicle is literally nothing. Microns of metal may be worn away nothing suffice to to cause it to fail. If you think you can drive a car at 70 miles per hour put your brakes on and slow that car to a stop generating tons of heat an friction and do that repeatedly for 40k miles before you need to replace your brake pads or discs, how much wear do you think a click on each tooth of the ratchet done a few times per day is going to inflict, its usually greased to ensure a smooth operation and therefore friction is next to nothing it is also only in contact for a time fraction of a second and doesn’t generate any heat. There is not any decernible level of wear on an hand brake in the course of the cars life unless you do something in some way to abuse it.

The reason your driving instructor told you that is because it’s bloody annoying having the brake yanked on a clacking away hundreds of times a day with every student they teach
 
Nice day out with family today.. nice time had by all.

Except obviously I discovered within 2 minutes of the 1st 1 hour motorway stint that the wheels are just out of balance enough to register in my brain as "this needs fixing".

Given the absolute battering its had from winter pot holes and speed bumps (you can never avoid them all) I'm not surprised in the slightest. Hopefully nothing is bent..
 
A recall is usually for a fix for a safety-related issue. So this is a strange one.
If we heave the lever up without pressing the button, some wear will occur to the ratchet teeth. Eventually, maybe years, the teeth will wear enough to no longer hold. This would be wear & tear on an older car.

If we press the button as we lift the lever, releasing it once applied, little or no wear will occur to the ratchet teeth. Difficult to see how they will 'fix' that.

I have seen many times where people having lifted the handbrake, will release it a little as they release the button. This can drop it down one tooth, which can be enough to allow a vehicle to move. This is a technique issue, and one I have to work hard with to ensure my learners are aware of and learn the correct technique and ensure the handbrake is properly applied. To avoid issues, most manufacturers now advise lifting the lever without pressing the button, to mask any poor technique.

Still don't understand how they make a recall out of this.

I was caught out by the hillside on the Croma a while ago. Part of the car park at work is on enough of a slope for the hill hold to engage. I had not put the handbrake on fully but the car didn't move when I took my foot off the brakes. It did creepisode back about a foot as I was walking behind it!
Someone else had their car roll down and hit another business I don’t know if Hill Hold was involved.
Does the Corsa handbrake have a conventional ratchet? I could see a staplers system like a friction wedge having an issue with holding the release down.

Robert G8RPI
 
I have never held the button In when pulling on the hand brake. Firstly when they engineer a car they know that 99% of people won’t hold in button and so they design the hand brake to be used without the need to hold in the button, it is after all made from steel and not chocolate or sponge, it’s pretty tough.

Secondly the amount of wear on the teeth of an hand brake over the life of a vehicle is literally nothing. Microns of metal may be worn away nothing suffice to to cause it to fail. If you think you can drive a car at 70 miles per hour put your brakes on and slow that car to a stop generating tons of heat an friction and do that repeatedly for 40k miles before you need to replace your brake pads or discs, how much wear do you think a click on each tooth of the ratchet done a few times per day is going to inflict, its usually greased to ensure a smooth operation and therefore friction is next to nothing it is also only in contact for a time fraction of a second and doesn’t generate any heat. There is not any decernible level of wear on an hand brake in the course of the cars life unless you do something in some way to abuse it.

The reason your driving instructor told you that is because it’s bloody annoying having the brake yanked on a clacking away hundreds of times a day with every student they teach

How do you know what designers or driving instructors were thinking? Is this just what you think their intentions were?
Maybe portland_bill can give us a first hand instructors reason? An instructors handbrake gets a lot more use than the average car.

Personally I've had to change the handbrake on two cars I've owned, both shortly after purchase. One was a worn ratchet rack the other was a worn pawl.
Both parts were made of steel (probably mild steel but I didn't test it) which does wear. Comparing that to Cast iron or cast steel brake disks and friction pads is just nonsense.
 
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A recall is usually for a fix for a safety-related issue.

If we press the button as we lift the lever, releasing it once applied, little or no wear will occur to the ratchet teeth. Difficult to see how they will 'fix' that.

Still don't understand how they make a recall out of this.

Our panda did this ONCE.. halfway through its 15 years with us.

The press at the time was full of these stories.
Paddynabs
Got a link to the recall notice..?
too many on corsas for me to search I suspect.. ;)
 
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