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How long are the inflated car prices going to last...?

Industry press think Chip Shortage is with us for another 12+ months... but demand will surely level out sooner

Plenty of cars not being driven: worn out

People who now dont commute have bought that gas guzzler they always wanted

Although December can be a good time to buy a used car.. if you have the money free

The industry has changed massively in the last couple of years alone not to mention dieselgate etc.

From what I have been reading manufactures have been massively underpricing their cars to drive out competition. 30-40 years ago a car was a piece of tin with 4 wheel and an engine bolted on so building them was stupidly cheap. Now with all the technology that they put in, that’s required for safety and in car entertainment. All these systems linking together and the introduction of all the self driving technologies, cars are massively expensive to make and just the R&D alone runs into multi billions of $ for each new model.

Now with electric cars it’s giving them a chance to redress the imbalance and all new electric cars are much more expensive despite the costs of batteries coming down. Realistically the batteries aren’t anywhere near as expensive as the cars cost but the manufacturers are using that money to push new r&d, this is where manufacturers like fiat have fallen down they’ve spent so many years selling “cheap cars” they’ve not put any money away for a rainy day, now they have no ability to react like they need to.

I think with cars the chip shortage is a bit of an excuse, if you want a car you can get it, it’s not like these cars are not available. Many of the chip shortages relate to the very modern and advanced chips from graphics cards, phones, tablets and computer manufacturers the very latest advances.

Covid has also added to the problem and there are massive shifts in things once “cheap” are now getting expensive as companies look to regain their losses over Covid.

In short car prices are never going back down like they have been in the past, even a fairly mundane Fiat 500 is now topping in at £18 - 20k
 
Dealers in USA are whacking big mark-ups on new electric Fords because they expect next to no returns for service work (warranty is another matter). We can expect similar things in UK. Whatever anyone thinks of Tesla, their sales via a website at the price given "no ifs no buts" has the traditional dealers rattled.
 
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Punto has now gone.

Sorry to see it go but it’s time had come, 176,000 miles + one large deer.

On the plus side the driver who collected it said it could end up in a auction where as he put it “some foreigner will probably buy it” to be honest if they did it wouldn’t be a terrible purchase as the damage is fairly minimal
 

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Energy company has gone to the wall..

Wanted to renegotiate for the next 12 months back in April.. we owed money as the Winter uses more .

Now we are less than a tenner in Credit.. we discover they have been overcharging through the 3+ years of the contract

Not sure that will ever get sorted.
Yup Charlie, just saw on the news, ours has gone bust too! There's going to be millions of us in this situation and they were just saying on the same news that the big companies are nervous about their ability to cope with so many all in one go. Oh deary me!
 
Yup Charlie, just saw on the news, ours has gone bust too! There's going to be millions of us in this situation and they were just saying on the same news that the big companies are nervous about their ability to cope with so many all in one go. Oh deary me!

We're with Bulb, who are wobbling by all accounts. But went on compare the market etc and you can't switch at the moment so all we can do is sit tight.

Got 200 quid credit with them...but apparently your credit is protected if you are switched by them going bust.

We shall see...
 
Interesting question in work today. My CEO came over with two non-functioning turbo modules off two 1980's Porsches, to see if I could identify (and hopefully fix) the fault.
It turns out that one is off the Porsche 956 which was second at Le Mans 1982 and winner of Le Mans 1983. {Sold for over $10,000,000 in 2015 !}
The other is off the Porsche 956 with the fastest ever competition lap time at the Nurburgring, set in 1983.

Unfortunately, when we opened one unit, the complete circuit board was covered in potting compound and there was no sign of damage to any wires, connectors or the tops of components still visible, so I had no hope of finding the fault unless the potting could be dissolved out.
The external connections are a pressure sensor with a vacuum pipe connection, and an electrical connector which may connect to a gauge (and perhaps elsewhere). Not much to go on.
 
Interesting question in work today. My CEO came over with two non-functioning turbo modules off two 1980's Porsches, to see if I could identify (and hopefully fix) the fault.
It turns out that one is off the Porsche 956 which was second at Le Mans 1982 and winner of Le Mans 1983. {Sold for over $10,000,000 in 2015 !}
The other is off the Porsche 956 with the fastest ever competition lap time at the Nurburgring, set in 1983.

Unfortunately, when we opened one unit, the complete circuit board was covered in potting compound and there was no sign of damage to any wires, connectors or the tops of components still visible, so I had no hope of finding the fault unless the potting could be dissolved out.
The external connections are a pressure sensor with a vacuum pipe connection, and an electrical connector which may connect to a gauge (and perhaps elsewhere). Not much to go on.
That sounds technically very interesting chris. Probably not so interesting to look at but I'd love to see a picture if you can manage?
 
I handed them back - no photos taken - but there really was nothing to see.
They were just a black plastic box with a metal base-plate, a vacuum pipe connection and a circular connector. Inside, the circuit was potted with just the tops of some components showing - some polyester capacitors, integrated circuits and a trimmer potentiometer.

I hoped that if I could find a fix I might get to poke about the cars, and possibly wangle a drive, but no chance of that now.
 
Typical state of affairs in that my car has a full tank of fuel but I'm not using it until the "caution something expensive is imminent" noise has been investigated. The C3 is fully working but obviously on fumes...meant to get some yesterday, thought I'd get some today.

Then spent my whole working day hearing about panic buying on the radio...thankfully people can be relied upon to be tight so had no bother getting a tank of vpower once I'd finished.
 
Typical state of affairs in that my car has a full tank of fuel but I'm not using it until the "caution something expensive is imminent" noise has been investigated. The C3 is fully working but obviously on fumes...meant to get some yesterday, thought I'd get some today.

Then spent my whole working day hearing about panic buying on the radio...thankfully people can be relied upon to be tight so had no bother getting a tank of vpower once I'd finished.

I avoid the news, unless it happens to be on the radio when I'm travelling. Mostly when I use the Panda for local journeys, I don't bother attaching the radio faceplate, so no radio, no news.

Went out shopping this morning, every forecourt was stuffed, and cars had their rear ends out into the main roads. I was wondering if I'd missed a bank holiday. Came on here to comment, and here's the answer. From the BBC website, it seems a 'handful' of BP and Esso owned Tesco Alliance forecourts had to shut on Thursday due to running out. Storm in a teacup? At least with panic buying petrol, there's a limit they can take, unlike loo rolls.

At Tesco in Swindon, the fuel tanker was struggling to get in, due to the mass of panic buyers. Despite staff trying to hold drivers back, they were pushing past to get to the pumps, with a full tanker beside them. More wheels than brain cells.
 
At Tesco in Swindon, the fuel tanker was struggling to get in, due to the mass of panic buyers. Despite staff trying to hold drivers back, they were pushing past to get to the pumps, with a full tanker beside them. More wheels than brain cells.

Well at least the great unwashed can't stomach 1.50 per litre...

Car won't know what hit it either given the wife usually runs it on Morrisons cheapest.

At least it means it'll be doing 45-55 to the gallon rather than the 40-45 it manages on the usual. With a 10 gallon tank that should be more than enough for a car that usually averages 350 miles a month...hopefully the Mazda will be on the road shortly as well.

But yes people are a bit dense...
 
This morning, with the Ibiza just about running on fumes after our weekend away last weekend, and a trip up to a fireplace shop in Falkirk in the offing, I decided to pop down to Morrisons first thing and fill up. The place was hoaching. Two of the lanes were coned off because the tanker was there offloading and the other four lanes were all full - 2 pumps in each lane - with about half a dozen or more cars queue'd back out to the mini roundabout. It didn't take long though because there are a lot of pumps so I was away within about 15, maybe 20 minutes. Then later in the day I was back to the supermarket itself, it's only maybe 10 minutes in the car from home, for a loaf of bread, some milk and a few odds and sods. The pumps were no busier than usual with about half free of cars. So, although quite busy when I was there early doors, it doesn't look like there's much panic buying going on right now up here.

Of course Grangemouth with it's very large refinery, is not that far away so maybe people around here feel more secure?
 
Had a little browse around our local 'emporuim' today. This is a strange and wonderful place, a few sheds, and lots of old lorry bodies used as sheds.
A car breakers yard
New furniture
Used furniture
A weird shed full of bric-a-brac, ornaments, vases, houshold stuff, mirrors, and so much more, but mostly of no interest to me, hence my inability to describe it.
Garden ornaments and bird tables
Building materials, including bags of ballast, shingle, sand, cement, etc. Reclaimed and end of line stuff, gates, fencing, wheelbarrows, sheets of plywood, various sizes and thicknesses, and so much more.
A wonderful shed, starts with tools, building/DIY tools, automotive tools (a good range of Laser tools), gardening tools, hardware, bolts, and similar fixings, then on to car care, household cleaning, kitchenware, a good range of Hammerite paints, step ladders, storage boxes, tool boxes (mostly Stanley plastic ones), then domestic electrical stuff, and onto childrens' toys.

Outside, on one edge of the area vaguely resembling a car park, there was a line of old, but whole cars. They looked like they might be for sale, as not in the scrapyard, but no prices. On the end of the line, a multi-coloured Panda, looking very sad, with all windows open to the elements. No idea if they close them at night, somehow I doubt it. If anyone remembers the VW Polo Harlequin, it looks like someone has tried to replicate this in a Panda. Not sure if it was thick paint, or a wrap, I was reluctant to try to pick at the edges.
 

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The Fabia announced in its central display that the battery key was low. That's clever. It presumably sensed the signal strength when I unlocked the car, as it is only a remote, not 'keyless'.

No worries, I have another remote. Tried that, car happy, so definitely something clever going on.

So I'm thinking it is likely to be a CR2032, very popular, and I have a spare. Popped the key open, no, it is a CR2025. Need to go shoppiing. No urgency.

Now here's a puzzle. Battery in the Panda remote is original, from early 2006, so 15.5 years old, and still locking/unlocking reliably. Battery in the Fabia is presumably also original, from Jan 2015, so only 6.5 yrs old. Perhaps the normal unlock signal will penetrate walls, be received at teh moon, etc. The spare key was new when I bought the car, Jan 2019, so should be good for a while yet.

Then the shopping. Whilst in Tesco's, found some. Pack of 4 for £8. What would I do with the other 3? By the time another is needed, they'd all be dead. Whilst I understand the need to package in economic quantities, that's an environmental issue right there. I'll continue to look for a single, while out and about.

Anyone any idea what is in the Panda key? If its a 2025, maybe a pair would be acceptable.
 
The Fabia announced in its central display that the battery key was low. That's clever. It presumably sensed the signal strength when I unlocked the car, as it is only a remote, not 'keyless'.

No worries, I have another remote. Tried that, car happy, so definitely something clever going on.

So I'm thinking it is likely to be a CR2032, very popular, and I have a spare. Popped the key open, no, it is a CR2025. Need to go shoppiing. No urgency.

Now here's a puzzle. Battery in the Panda remote is original, from early 2006, so 15.5 years old, and still locking/unlocking reliably. Battery in the Fabia is presumably also original, from Jan 2015, so only 6.5 yrs old. Perhaps the normal unlock signal will penetrate walls, be received at teh moon, etc. The spare key was new when I bought the car, Jan 2019, so should be good for a while yet.

Then the shopping. Whilst in Tesco's, found some. Pack of 4 for £8. What would I do with the other 3? By the time another is needed, they'd all be dead. Whilst I understand the need to package in economic quantities, that's an environmental issue right there. I'll continue to look for a single, while out and about.

Anyone any idea what is in the Panda key? If its a 2025, maybe a pair would be acceptable.

Screw fix have a two pack for £2.56. CR2025 is 0.7mm thinner than a CR2032 so you can use a 25 in place of a 32 if there is a sufficiently thick spring to push on the contacts.
 
Citroën scored it's first MOT fail today...at 17k miles good going.

My level of surprise is somewhere around 0, because I knew the brake discs on the rear were terrible and the fronts weren't great either. But it's low mile car (4k since last MOT) and I've read my warranty documents.

It failing the MOT on them...means Citroën is paying not me for 4x OEM replacement discs and the MOT test fees. I'm paying for new pads...

Anyone that says they rang me to say it was the fronts that had failed and I then pointed out the rears were heavily scored and in poor condition and it should fail on all 4...well they're lying.
 
Found some fuel yesterday, with only a short wait, although 5p/l more expensive than usual. But cheap and unavailable is not that useful.

Tank was nearly empty, as last time I filled was end of October. (This is the work car, used 2 days/week) Got to about £20, and then noticed a sign, very high up on each pump, well higher than I could reach (if I tried), stating 'max £30'. Managed to stop the pump at £30.01, so I tried. Just under 3/4 tank, so it'll do for a few weeks.

Afterwards, several thoughts have crossed my mind.
1. The pump did not cut off at £30, so are they cutting pumps off if the kiosk operator notices, or just leaving it to honesty and fairness? (That'll work well.)
2. What can they do if I just filled up. They can't demand I give it back.
3. Restricting quantity means I have to refill sooner. That creates more visits, so longer queues. It does not encourage less use, only multiple visits to several filling stations. I doubt people will be using their vehicles more at these times, so actual use is similar to before, we are just creating queues. We're British, we love a good queue. Would a minimum quantity work better?

Then another thought.
4. Why not a tiered pricing structure.
Up to 15 litres, charged at £5/lit
Up to 25 litres, charged at £2.50/lit
Over 25 litres charged at standard price.
Normal price for motorcycles.

Would that force us back to 'normal'?

I imagine used Nissan Leaf prices have risen.
 
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