Technical  Stripped spark plug hole thread...

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Technical  Stripped spark plug hole thread...

The original.poster hasn't stripped the thread, it's just an incase inquire

There's always people freaking out on Quora, Reddit, Google AI and so on with theories of imminent disasters, in practice it just does not happen

There's nothing to worry about

Shed loads are tapped every day and inserts fitted, especially on the Ford Triton engines,there are garages in America that do this repair every single week,

While every reasonable care should be taken to remove as much swarf as possible, it almost impossible to clear 100% it's no different to all the bit of compressed carbon grit that's formed in the combustion chamber in

This was left after the tap was greased and blasted with compressed air

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Seeing as posting disaster on the internet is a popular place past time these days , there should be pictures of the damage caused every day

You will struggle to find any, In the real world it a million to 1 of anything bad will happening

That includes my nissan bluebird that blew a spark plug out and was that was fine with an insert for many years afterwards
 
The original.poster hasn't stripped the thread, it's just an incase inquire

There's always people freaking out on Quora, Reddit, Google AI and so on with theories of imminent disasters, in practice it just does not happen

There's nothing to worry about

Shed loads are tapped every day and inserts fitted, especially on the Ford Triton engines,there are garages in America that do this repair every single week,

While every reasonable care should be taken to remove as much swarf as possible, it almost impossible to clear 100% it's no different to all the bit of compressed carbon grit that's formed in the combustion chamber in

This was left after the tap was greased and blasted with compressed air

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Seeing as posting disaster on the internet is a popular place past time these days , there should be pictures of the damage caused every day

You will struggle to find any, In the real world it a million to 1 of anything bad will happening

That includes my nissan bluebird that blew a spark plug out and was that was fine with an insert for many years afterwards
Absolutely, just get on with it but take all reasonable care to stop stuff falling in. After all, what else are you going to do, take the head off? definitely an alternative on a Briggs side valve lawnmower engine but otherwise?
 
Whenever I've put in a plug I would hand tighten then another whole turn to turn and half...
Missed this one

Sounds very very wrong or a typo

And way too tight

A new ngk plug is just over 1/2 turn

previously crushed washer on a used plugs is much less about 12th about 30 degrees

Although a torque wrench on a cold engine is the most reliable @ 18Nm (M12) that's dry and clean no grease or oils

12Nm if greased

A genuine NGK plug has a trivalent coating to prevent seizing and should be fitted dry.
 
While every reasonable care should be taken to remove as much swarf as possible,

Glad we are all in agreement.

Because this

Don't overly worry about the metal swarf

Start the engine with the plug out, blows the majority out

The rest will either pass the exhaust valve or get burnt off

There not big enough or hard enough to cause any damage

Suggested to anyone reading that you should start the engine without making any effort to remove swarf before hand.

And once you’d done that you still didn’t need to make any other effort to remove the swarf and not to worry about such things…..

Happy that this has been clarified.
 
Glad we are all in agreement.

Because this



Suggested to anyone reading that you should start the engine without making any effort to remove swarf before hand.

And once you’d done that you still didn’t need to make any other effort to remove the swarf and not to worry about such things…..

Happy that this has been clarified.

It how the aluminium swarf been cleaned out by mechanics for decades with zero negative effect that I can find

And it works for me it tested by me, so it works in the real world





It's done like this every day, all over the world
 
And it works for me it tested by me, so it works in the real world



I note you did a screen capture rather than just post a link to the video, I’m going to assume that’s so I and anyone else in this thread wouldn’t see the dozens and dozens of negative comments about the way he did it….


The video with comments intact is here


Just because you do something a certain way and other people do it a certain way, doesn’t make it the right way.

I have never heard of an engine builder, machine shop or any mechanic worth their salt who would say it’s ok to knowingly run an engine that has metal shavings and debris inside it.

You are literally arguing against taking basic precautions like hoovering out the shavings.
 
Sorry velvet but impossible to say yeah or nae from just a picture like this.
Those certainly look like inserts and that is a taper tap which presumably will cut the hole out larger to accept the insert. That sort of repair kit is common enough. However it needs to be exactly the correct thread and length for your application. What info was given on the packaging?
For example, I have a Helicoil repair kit for 14mm spark plugs, it says exactly that on the box. Inside it contains the threading and installing tools and a selection of several lengths inserts for different reach plugs. This wouldn't work for our Panda which has 12mm plugs. - See what I mean? More info needed.

Edit. If it were me I'd take that plug out and carefully examine the thread in the hole. It's not impossible that all it needs is a plug tap, or even a Slotted plug, run down the threads to clean them up to a usable condition. By "slotted" plug I mean a plug with the ceramic smashed out of it and the slots cut in the threads to make it into a thread chaser. I have a picture of mine somewhere on my laptop which I'll try to find and post on here for you.
no info with the kit..I'll have to go back to e Bay. I believe those chrome inserts are meant to fit on the spark plug to clear out the thread in the head
 
There you go, found the picture of my home made spug thread cleaner. It's made from an old 14mm plug, slotted and welded to a length of tube with an old bolt in the top so it can be worked using a socket or spanner

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Hope that is useful?

Edit it is so long because it was originally made to tackle a plug hole on a 504 Peugeot and they had deeply recessed plugs.
what do the slots actually do ?
 
There you go, found the picture of my home made spug thread cleaner. It's made from an old 14mm plug, slotted and welded to a length of tube with an old bolt in the top so it can be worked using a socket or spanner

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Hope that is useful?

Edit it is so long because it was originally made to tackle a plug hole on a 504 Peugeot and they had deeply recessed plugs.

what do the slots actually do ?
 
what do the slots actually do ?
Acts like the cutting edges of a "proper' thread tap. Of course, not being a proper hard tool steel a tool like this is only good for cleaning up an existing thread - it's never going to actually cut a virgin thread. So it works best where just the top 2 or 3 threads have been damaged. I've used it many times over the years with great success.

Edit. you put some grease on it and that catches any small bits of swarf dislodged by the sharp edges of the slots as you wind it in and out of the damaged thread. It restores, as much as possible, of the damaged thread and removes/reforms the rest. It works because, as we've mentioned before, most Plug Holes suffer damage to just the top 2 or 3 threads, unless of course some insensitive absolute animal has completely "done a number" on it and wound the plug well into the head. Normally the threads deeper into the hole will be undamaged so rectifying the 2 or 3 threads at the top will allow the plug to be screwed in and it will tighten down very happily in the undamaged threads deeper in.
 
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