even if it was 10 car widths it is only 1 lane unless lane markings seperate it, and i cant see any lane markings on that exit.
It's 4 car widths, that's a two lane exit, it is definitely marked on the top exit if you look too. - It's possible it is not displayed on the satellite image. I would definitely not have any issues from the looks of the image to enter at B and leave on the outer part of X. Same as on roundabouts such as:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&h...-1.159425&spn=0.000759,0.002494&t=k&z=19&om=1
even if it was 10 car widths it is only 1 lane unless lane markings seperate it, and i cant see any lane markings on that exit.
definatelyA or B is fine an entrance lane.
there is one lane, only 1 car should be in that lane at any given time no matter how wide it is. yes they probably made it wider so bad drivers can exit safely when performing an illegal lane change, but that doesnt mean it is the correct way to exit a roundabout, and in the event of an accident the person exiting from the inside lane will always be blamed because they performed an illegal lane change. you must change lanes before you exit, not during or after.It does matter how wide it is because that makes a difference between a safe exit of two cars maintaining lane discipline vs. a collision.
i was taught differently. my instructor said if there is only 1 exit lane you must be in the outside lane to exit via that lane, anything else is an illegal lane change.But that's not true nor how it is taught, there is no need to move across to the outside lane is there is enough of an exit lane to leave from the inside lane...
actually it says:That is why the highway code specifically states:
stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
Which is ambiguous to as which method you want to use, it doesn't say "change lanes before your exit" or "stay in your lane until you reach the exit" - it leaves it up to the situation.
But the fact still remains that by the book, as an intermediate exit, unless road markings or signs say otherwise, A or B is fine an entrance lane. It does matter how wide it is because that makes a difference between a safe exit of two cars maintaining lane discipline vs. a collision.
Same stands if a car is turning right and another car is going straight on but both leaving at the same exit. The person turning right should either maintain lane discipline and leave the roundabout on the outer part of X or if safe, filter across to leave in the inner part of X. Neither is right or wrong and aslong as the exit lane is wide enough for two cars or marked as such, there won't be a problem. If the outer part is marked off with chevrons to prevent such a movement, it will be stated on the entrance lane.
in that example, assuming the exit at B is a single lane, if car i can not get into the outside lane by the time it passes A (usually because car ii is in the way) then car i must go round the roundabout again, it must not leave with car ii and try to fight for a place in the exit lane, that would be illegal.Correct me if wrong but in this example we will give the roundabout 4 exits. A at 12 o'clock, B at 3, C at 6 and D at 9.
Car i enters the roundabout at C heading for B. Car ii enters the roundabout at D also heading for B.
You argue that they should both observe lane discipline and sort it out as they leave the roundabout at B. I would suggest in that example that Car ii should give way to the right and Car i has right of way to change lane to exit the roundabout.
Correct me if wrong but in this example we will give the roundabout 4 exits. A at 12 o'clock, B at 3, C at 6 and D at 9.
Car i enters the roundabout at C heading for B. Car ii enters the roundabout at D also heading for B.
You argue that they should both observe lane discipline and sort it out as they leave the roundabout at B. I would suggest in that example that Car ii should give way to the right and Car i has right of way to change lane to exit the roundabout.
Roundabouts are great
if you read the steps in the highway code it makes it quite clear, you get into the correct lane before you exit, then you stay in that lane until you exit. that is the whole reason you can not exit from the inside lane into a 1 lane exit, if you do that you are changing lanes later than it tells you to in the highway code.
Read it very carefully, you will see it is ambiguous for either step and that is on purpose. You are assuming since it doesn't say method X, method Y is correct (when it also doesn't say method Y is correct) - when in actual fact, neither is stated as both are perfectly acceptable depending on the situation.notice the first step, select the appropriate lane. once you are in the appropriate lane you must stay in it until you exit. so it does say change lanes before you exit
Jug, it does not say that, and it specifically DOESN'T say that for a very important reason. If it were the case - which it is not - ALL roundabouts would have one exit lane.
Read it very carefully, you will see it is ambiguous for either step and that is on purpose. You are assuming since it doesn't say method X, method Y is correct (when it also doesn't say method Y is correct) - when in actual fact, neither is stated as both are perfectly acceptable depending on the situation
It's all part of the fun The inside lane on the roundabout turns into the outside lane (by definition, not by logic!) on the exit road.
Nope, I tend not to give way if I have priority :devil:
no, the reason they word it like that is because the appropriate lane will depend on the number of lanes on the exit, that is why it says appropriate, but it also says you must get into the correct lane and stay in it before you exit for that same reason, it is then applicable to any situation. in the example of a 2 lane exit the same rule applies, yes you can exit from either lane on the roundabout BUT you can still only exit into the lane that is appropriate for the lane you are in on the roundabout, you still cant change lanes as you exit no matter how many lanes the exit has, thats the rule its very simple. that is why the number of lanes on the exit dictates the lane(s) that are appropriate for exiting from.
i give up because i think you'll never get it, or maybe you do get it and you're just trying to have my life.
on a 2 lane roundabout that would be nearside and nearside since traffic only goes one way so both lanes have a curb lolthere's just nearside and offside
.But isn't this exactly what I am saying? You can't exit from the inside of the roundabout to the inside of the exit - the move should have been done first, but you can exit from the inside of the lane to the outside of the exit lane.