If you have a car classed as, say Insurance group 2, and as 90HP on the V5 but its actually an 85HP if you try and correct it the insurance company will refuse to insure you. Its highly likely your insurance would prove invalid if you dont declare the discrepancy. My car is not listed on the ABI Insurance database. I am insured as 90HP as that is whatwas stated on my paperwork however this is inaccurate. I have made it clear if the car is written off I will want a 90HP replacement. Fiat marketed the Panda Cross Waze as 90HP all over europe and NONE of them are actually 90hp meaning almost certainly problems getting insured because as we all know, 1 tiny discrpancy and they will refuse to pay up.
Taking the 90HP cars were the Cross produced for a hsort period, the rest of the people with the A4000 seies engine are not accurately described. Ifthis iscorrected the car can be added to teh ABI database and this issue will disappear.
Fiat stated in wring to me the the incorrect desigantion was due to a "website error". To which I say BULLSHIT.
My estimate is that they overcharged their customers by some £15,000,000 across europe because of their 'web site' error. I took advice from CItizens advice and was tiold that should I push it they would hav eto repace my car with one with a 90HP engine as I had a full set of matching paperwork, order, invoice warranty and build documents stating I was buying a90HP motor. They frankly make me sick. I took compensation to the retail value of 5/95th of the cars value. Fiat forced mmy perfectly honest dealer to pay this so seem to have gotten away with teh somewhat large over charge made across the european markets. My figure is based on c £790 per vehicle x the european sales.
If you think you have a Panda Cross with a 90HP engine you might be lucky, but there aint many of them about.
It makes you wonder how many other manufactureres clamis of this is the 140HP and not the 130hp model Sir arein fact also complete fabrications.
I told the heads of Fiat UK and Europe what I thought of them and their dishonesty in a m,anner that ought to have provoked a reaction were what I said untrue and got a p[athetic apology in writing from a minion in the ivory tower. If I wasnt a true Panda Nut I would have rejected the car and demanded a refund.
The $64000 question is are there actually any 105HP TA engines at all or are these all 85HP as well. I wouldnt bet anything on any of these being different.
My Panda sports now sports a V8 badge. Its as accurate an honest a claim about its power and engine as its certificate of conformity, or the as the garbage Fiat spouted about the Panda Waze having 90HP engines. The 90HP variant was discontinued 18 months before the waze arrived on the UK market. I really hope this is thjis finally being corrected and the insurance issue being resolved, not some different web site error. As I have no recall letter I am not holding my breath. It maybe that there is some other error on the COC maybe it related to something else entirely. Maybe its the ecomomy claims which were made for the TA a few years back - also as honest as a £9 note.
The validity and value of the EEC systems and departments for manufacturers declarations of conformity is so worthless it makes you wonder why it is so. Is it possible do you think that someone somewhere has been taking massive back handers and passing / signing off everthing put in front of them. Is this yet another thing running alongside the defeat devices for emissions tests??? Or is it just deafness, blindness and total incompetence??
I couldnt possibly speak for others but I feel I smell corruption. If ever there was something that said the EU was rotten, apart from the commissions £12million lunch bills this mess, and the emissions scandal has to be it.
If Fiat want to comment I am the Queen of England and I live in a Cave in the Outer Hebrides.
