Put Your flippin' Lights On! Is it time daytime running lights are introduced in UK?

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Put Your flippin' Lights On! Is it time daytime running lights are introduced in UK?

Should this be introduced?


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I got a philips (one L or two :confused:) pair of normal sidelights but they had pale blue glass and looked quite nice but lasted ages, better than the cheap blue glass ones off Ebay :)

I put similar in my mums Yaris. Blue glass, side light bulbs, but when switched on they looked no different to the normal side lights bulbs that I had just removed:mad:
 
I'm not too keen on those LEDs, think they look terrible on the new Audis, but the are bright and very noticeable!

So that's the make. I think they give the car a menacing look - but certainly make them stand out from the crowd.

I'd be interested to learn just how much fuel is wasted through using DRLs.
It'd be interesting to know just how much electrical power is produced by an engine at idle - power which, once the battery is fuly charged, is wasted?
At what stage (when switching on electrics) does the amount of fuel consumed start to increase?
 
So that's the make. I think they give the car a menacing look - but certainly make them stand out from the crowd.

I'd be interested to learn just how much fuel is wasted through using DRLs.
It'd be interesting to know just how much electrical power is produced by an engine at idle - power which, once the battery is fuly charged, is wasted?
At what stage (when switching on electrics) does the amount of fuel consumed start to increase?
The reason given by audi for using L.E.D. was they reduced the fuel consumption of DRLs...then some bright spark decided to ask a car company that should know about the effect on fuel consumption, so off they went to volvo who said "no idea...its so small we haven't measured it."
 
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I'll try and be brief, (who said fat chance). I'm against, because, every time I go out in my car, or bike, I make decisions, lots of them. Which way shall I go? Do I want to get there quickly or have I got lots of time? Am I going on the Motorway or cross country? One of the decisions is do I need lights on? I am the one best placed to make that decision. Sometimes I go out on my bike
and with performance of 0-60 in 4 seconds and top speed of 155 it's faster than anything on 4 wheels on this forum, yet sometimes I don't have lights on, sometimes I do. My decision, based on weather, available light, traffic density, speed of the road etc.
1) The more vehicles on the road with lights on, the more likely it is that some myopic knob will shorten my life span. (When I'm on my bike)

2) Car & Driver Magazine in the U.S. said DRLs would increase fuel consumption by about 0.3 to 1.5 mpg.

3) The more decisions that are taken away from drivers, the less able they are to make the ones that are left to them.

4) More and more cars are fitted with HRW or HFW in the case of Fords and the like that turn off after a pre-set period of time. In the home, Phillips VCRs
do likewise. Not that these make any real difference to an individual, But 2 million Fords all running round with one on at, say, 1 mpg, makes a big difference.

5) The only legal requirement for me in terms of safety equipment on my bike is helmet; yet I choose Spidi jacket and gloves, Dainese trousers and Alpinestars boots. I also would like to make my own decision as to whether I ride with my lights on.
 
If you do the maths, it's such a small increase in fuel consumption it's immesurable.
Your heater fan will use many times more power.

Th eDLR's are usually about 5w power comsumption.

A gallon of petrol contains approx 60,000watts of power.

So we have 60000/5 = 12000.

Say the average car does 35mpg, 35/12000 = 0.0029mpg increase in consumption.

Us 500 owners are on it already .
 
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If there in a Hummer, they would run out of fuel the instant they turned the lights on :eek::eek::D:D:D:D:D
Personally, I can't think of anything wrong with that. The more 4X4s that run out of gas on the drive the better. Although some parts of Norway and Sweden are on a similar latitude to the U.K., I was under the impression that large parts of those countries were close to the Arctic Circle and therefore had limited hours of daylight for many months of the year, which makes DLRs quite a sensible move. The U.K. on the otherhand has over 6 months of the year when there are 12 hours of daylight. I know that in summer parts of Scandinavia have almost 24 hours of daylight but nonetheless, I don't want to
have decisions taken away from me.
Don't forget, with sat nav, GPS and electronic engine management the pieces are all in place to have your speed reduced automatically when you get to a lower speed limit. Put that together with Adaptive Cruise Control then how long before your speed is reduced for you whenever the safety Nazis decide they are going to act in the interests of your own safety. After all, they know best.
Just out of interest, in response to a previous comment, the Norwegians didn't
side with the Germans in WW2, but the Quislings did and assumed the role of a puppet government, just as the Vichy French administration did and just as the British would have done had we been invaded. I think I'm right in saying the King of Norway steadfastly refused to kow-tow to the occupiers and numerous Norwegian naval units came to Britain to carry on the fight as did a lot of aircrew. There was also a very active resistance movement.
 
Personally, I can't think of anything wrong with that. The more 4X4s that run out of gas on the drive the better. Although some parts of Norway and Sweden are on a similar latitude to the U.K., I was under the impression that large parts of those countries were close to the Arctic Circle and therefore had limited hours of daylight for many months of the year, which makes DLRs quite a sensible move. The U.K. on the otherhand has over 6 months of the year when there are 12 hours of daylight. I know that in summer parts of Scandinavia have almost 24 hours of daylight but nonetheless, I don't want to
have decisions taken away from me.
Don't forget, with sat nav, GPS and electronic engine management the pieces are all in place to have your speed reduced automatically when you get to a lower speed limit. Put that together with Adaptive Cruise Control then how long before your speed is reduced for you whenever the safety Nazis decide they are going to act in the interests of your own safety. After all, they know best.
Just out of interest, in response to a previous comment, the Norwegians didn't
side with the Germans in WW2, but the Quislings did and assumed the role of a puppet government, just as the Vichy French administration did and just as the British would have done had we been invaded. I think I'm right in saying the King of Norway steadfastly refused to kow-tow to the occupiers and numerous Norwegian naval units came to Britain to carry on the fight as did a lot of aircrew. There was also a very active resistance movement.

Big brother won't be reducing speeds of your car automatically for a long long time. Speed cameras bring in way too much revenue for that to happen. More cameras are going up all the time.
 
I've been thinking about this the last few days when on a particularly nasty long straight which is one of very few places to overtake on a very busy road. It's nigh on impossible to see a car at the other end of the mile-long straight, even in bright sunlight, unless it has sidelights on. Then it stands out like a sore thumb and it's great because you know for sure whether it's safe or nto to overtake. How many of you would put your sidelights on on that stretch of road? If you answered no, I'd probably kill you head-on :)
 
I've been thinking about this the last few days when on a particularly nasty long straight which is one of very few places to overtake on a very busy road. It's nigh on impossible to see a car at the other end of the mile-long straight, even in bright sunlight, unless it has sidelights on. Then it stands out like a sore thumb and it's great because you know for sure whether it's safe or nto to overtake. How many of you would put your sidelights on on that stretch of road? If you answered no, I'd probably kill you head-on :)


Going back to my argument on page 1 (i THINK) i totally agree with your comment on the side lights on a stretch of road, i think as i have said before that it should be a global standard to have your sidelight on all the time from when the key enters the slot...
Its nice to know that just becouse i live in Norway that there are people in other countrys that think they are a good idea...
Think i love you now :eek::):D:D:D
 
I've been thinking about this the last few days when on a particularly nasty long straight which is one of very few places to overtake on a very busy road. It's nigh on impossible to see a car at the other end of the mile-long straight, even in bright sunlight, unless it has sidelights on. Then it stands out like a sore thumb and it's great because you know for sure whether it's safe or nto to overtake. How many of you would put your sidelights on on that stretch of road? If you answered no, I'd probably kill you head-on :)

My answer would be - should you really be overtaking on a road if you're unsure of something coming the other way?
 
In actual fact i don't overtake on there unless i know it's clear. So it really pisses me off to get to the other end and find out i could have overtaken and then sit behind a useless **** doing 30 for the next 15 miles until you get to the next spot you can overtake. That's if there's no traffic coming the other way there either. See my point now? :)
 
my left stalk is always on dipped beam, never switch them off

1. cos my car is black it can be hard to see, lots of people used to pull out on me

and

2. HID's look the nuts :p
 
In actual fact i don't overtake on there unless i know it's clear. So it really pisses me off to get to the other end and find out i could have overtaken and then sit behind a useless **** doing 30 for the next 15 miles until you get to the next spot you can overtake. That's if there's no traffic coming the other way there either. See my point now? :)

Yep i agree, even more so after seeing your picture...
:eek:
 
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