Put Your flippin' Lights On! Is it time daytime running lights are introduced in UK?
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Put Your flippin' Lights On! Is it time daytime running lights are introduced in UK?
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Was it a 500 you saw then? I've wondered what the DRL's on them look like as they've been talked about in the 500 area alot.
Thats the side light indicator, and obviously DRL lense on the 500 I think. Were they bright? or just like side lights? Sorry for all the questions, but quite interested in the 500 DRL system set-up and havent seen one on the road yet.
Thats the side light indicator, and obviously DRL lense on the 500 I think. Were they bright? or just like side lights? Sorry for all the questions, but quite interested in the 500 DRL system set-up and havent seen one on the road yet.
They were like headlamp bright I guess much brighter than sides, was a 500 was odd didn't think "ooh new 500" thought, "how odd he's got his fogs on in daylight!"
No electrical fault. That was just a Chav driving around with foggies on because they think they 'look cool' even though it's not foggy and visibility isn't reduced.
Those aren't fog lights. Fog lights have to be fitted below a certain height (normally below bumper level) as set out in the Vehicle Construction and Use Act. I've circled the fogs in yellow, whereas the lights you drew a box round look more like sidelights or additional driving lights to me?
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just fit led lights and use them as drl they look much better
Whew, just trawled through this thread.
I've seen a few new cars out & about with LED DRLs as a strip of lights immediately beneath the main lights - and boy do they stand out.
In fact, as I was parked up in the suicide lane of the M25 I thought the same car was going round in circles as half a dozen drove past me whilst I was there - and the LEDs really did make the car stand out from the heaving mass of metal hurtling on the clockwise section.
On the subject of battery voltage, mine reads 13.5 with the engine off and 14.8 with the engine on.
With the engine idling (1.9jtd, 900rpm) and main beam, hazards, fogs, brakes, heated rear window and demister all switched on, the engine laboured slightly as the rpm dropped to 800 and the output dropped from 14.8 to 13.5.
I guess at this point, the system was balancing between keeping the engine ticking over & running all the electrics.
I'd love to know just how much of an impact sidelights have on fuel economy though. Seems to me there is a load of wasted power when the engine is idling and 4 x 5w power drain would hardly scratch the surface.
When I take the Scouts camping we use a generator to power a few lights etc as darkness falls.
We have 10 x 20w lamps in our kitchen tent, a 500w halogen to light the main area and a 4g trailling socket to charge mobiles, camcorders etc. (and summer evenings we generally run a couple of bug zappers in the kitchen tent)
This is generally running 6 hours per night & a gallon of fuel lasts most of the summer.
The generator has 2 x 13a sockets rated at 240v though we've never tried it to its max (3kw per socket?)
I've seen a few new cars out & about with LED DRLs as a strip of lights immediately beneath the main lights - and boy do they stand out.
In fact, as I was parked up in the suicide lane of the M25 I thought the same car was going round in circles as half a dozen drove past me whilst I was there - and the LEDs really did make the car stand out from the heaving mass of metal hurtling on the clockwise section.
On the subject of battery voltage, mine reads 13.5 with the engine off and 14.8 with the engine on.
With the engine idling (1.9jtd, 900rpm) and main beam, hazards, fogs, brakes, heated rear window and demister all switched on, the engine laboured slightly as the rpm dropped to 800 and the output dropped from 14.8 to 13.5.
I guess at this point, the system was balancing between keeping the engine ticking over & running all the electrics.
I'd love to know just how much of an impact sidelights have on fuel economy though. Seems to me there is a load of wasted power when the engine is idling and 4 x 5w power drain would hardly scratch the surface.
When I take the Scouts camping we use a generator to power a few lights etc as darkness falls.
We have 10 x 20w lamps in our kitchen tent, a 500w halogen to light the main area and a 4g trailling socket to charge mobiles, camcorders etc. (and summer evenings we generally run a couple of bug zappers in the kitchen tent)
This is generally running 6 hours per night & a gallon of fuel lasts most of the summer.
The generator has 2 x 13a sockets rated at 240v though we've never tried it to its max (3kw per socket?)
i have my stilo side lights on all the time as they go off with ignition. There is also what looks like 4 of them in total and makes it stand out a bit more. In winter the headlights are on perminantly as they run off ignition and about 97% of my driving in winter is done in the dark anyways.
The fog lights in the stilo are built into the headlight cluster, they are underneath the indicator bulbs. They are described in the manual as fog lights and the symbols on the button and dash are for fog lights
The fog lights in the stilo are built into the headlight cluster, they are underneath the indicator bulbs. They are described in the manual as fog lights and the symbols on the button and dash are for fog lights
stilos fog lights are set in the side of its headlights and there not all that low
I seem to recall, many moons ago, reading about the fitting of fogs & spots - fogs had to be fitted within so many inches of the road surface - generally below the bumper (in the days when all bumpers were generally a narrow band to the front & rear) and spots were generally fitted above the bumper.
I have seen a number of cars where the fogs are placed beside the main lights - although I can't see how these would be useful as fogs when fog lights are designed to throw a powerful beam of light along the road surface (hence the need to mount them as low as possible) whereas a higher mounted fog would waste most of the light trying to penetrate the mist in order to reach the road surface.
your right, they are a bit pants at doing just that! in really really really thick fog, the light bounces back at you off the fog so u end up on sides. only experienced this once about 8 years ago on the M61 at bolton
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WRONG. Nissan serina, Front foglamps on inside of headlights, Smart Fortwo (Smart car) just below headlights, some 1990's Mitsi 4x4 people carrier, the same.
And Stilo
This is what makes me laugh
Anti DRL people use one of their main excuses against them in being the extra poloution they use, and that fact that they dazzle.Soloution. Use LED's. Use minimal power so MPG not lost, and they standout, instead of dazzel! And they outlive the average bulb by about 20 times!
i've never seen a failed LED.
Seen them not work as result of something else failing
Seen them not work as result of something else failing
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I've only ever had a LED fail because I put to much juice through it and it fecked it.
Only problem I have just had is that my LED sidelight bulb (ebay buy) has started to play up. Has started flickering. Good I removed it because police might have done me for imitating an emergeny vehicle. Is a white LED, but you know what they're like. Now just to decide whether to replace to standard sidelight bulbs or put LED's back in.
Only problem I have just had is that my LED sidelight bulb (ebay buy) has started to play up. Has started flickering. Good I removed it because police might have done me for imitating an emergeny vehicle. Is a white LED, but you know what they're like. Now just to decide whether to replace to standard sidelight bulbs or put LED's back in.
Just out of interest, I wonder how many anti-DRL people have LEDs fitted to their washer nozzles?
Even having one LED in front of each nozzle makes the vehicle stand out - especially at twilight.
Even having one LED in front of each nozzle makes the vehicle stand out - especially at twilight.
No electrical fault. That was just a Chav driving around with foggies on because they think they 'look cool' even though it's not foggy and visibility isn't reduced.
Those aren't fog lights. Fog lights have to be fitted below a certain height (normally below bumper level) as set out in the Vehicle Construction and Use Act. I've circled the fogs in yellow, whereas the lights you drew a box round look more like sidelights or additional driving lights to me?
In a later post I went on to say I was mistaken as the vehicle I saw was not fitted with the lower fogs seen on that picture...also I wouldnt have it brought it up in the daylight running lights thread if i'd thought it was a chav who for some reason had bought a 500 and was driving round with his fogs on...also don't higher spec mark 2 puntos have integrated fogs in the headlamps?
I would rather have auto wipers/lights fitted as standard to all new cars TBH.
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Auto lights are not good enough to switch on in pooring rain or other weather conditions when lights are needed! And DRLs are to help with visability in the day not just when it gets dark.
I think it's beacause they get too hot being too close to the headlamps, I have had loads go that way
Though I always get complimented on my strobe lights as they flicker when they start to fail
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I think it's beacause they get too hot being too close to the headlamps, I have had loads go that way
Thats a good point. Might not get another pair then. at £8 a set their not cheap if having to be replaced every 9 months.
I always have dipped beams on, no matter what the weather is like!
In the first picture of the 500, those lights circled are indicators and sidelights iirc!
I'm not too keen on those LEDs, think they look terrible on the new Audis, but the are bright and very noticeable!
In the first picture of the 500, those lights circled are indicators and sidelights iirc!
I'm not too keen on those LEDs, think they look terrible on the new Audis, but the are bright and very noticeable!
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