Proof! OAPs are safe drivers

[ChrisUK]

p.s. My thoughts are older drivers know the risks more, they are also more financially restricted so cant afford to race around all day and often have families so have adapted a more slower and cautious approach to driving.

I completely disagree with that have you seen the price of property nowadays? My dads mortgage is £89 a month ending next year, Mine when I had one was £640 a month. Before he lost his job despite having similar incomes he had far more expendable cash than I did due to this.

 

[johnw]

My thoughts are older drivers know the risks more, they are also more financially restricted so cant afford to race around all day and often have families so have adapted a more slower and cautious approach to driving.

The mortgage is paid off, my insurance for a 100HP is under £100 a year - fully comp, protected no claims. The kids support themselves. I suspect younger people are much more financially restricted than older people - perhaps that is why so many drive without insurance.


try Trading Standards for the shoes.

 

[Ffoxy]

For what its worth, I think that as you get older you learn to be more thoughtful towards other road users, you drive in accordance with the experience you gain, and you realise you look a rank tool doing stoopid road tricks & put others at risk.

A lad I know has had his license revoked & he has bought a BMW for when he gets it back, I truly hope he has learned his lessons.

 

[Venters]

You have been lucky.

Drivers aged 17 to 20 are ten times more likely to have an accident than a driver aged 30+

Men aged 17 to 20 make up 3% of drivers. They are responsible for 33% of all dangerous driving convictions and about 30% of all convictions for causing death by dangerous driving.

It would be interesting to be able to compare 17-20 year olds on an accidents per thousand miles compared against 80-83 year olds. Whilst I do not doubt the 17-20 year olds accidents are worse due to greater speeds involved I wouldn't be surprised to find the older drivers having more accidents for distance covered. But I doubt such statistics are readily available.

 

[jnoiles]

For what its worth, I think that as you get older you learn to be more thoughtful towards other road users, you drive in accordance with the experience you gain, and you realise you look a rank tool doing stoopid road tricks & put others at risk.

I'm guessing you don't spend a lot of time in North London?

In the past 2 months I've seen the following, all done by middle aged and above drivers:

- A man eating cereal from a bowl with milk on the M1 at 70mph
- A man shaving, with a razor
- A woman taking her seatbelt off to reach into the back seat to hit a child also bouncing about with no seatbelt on
- More people weaving about from lane to lane on the north circular than I can count
- A couple having an arugment where they were throwing things (fags, phones, a to z) at each other while doing 40mph

In that same period in the same area I've seen exactly zero boy racers being idiots.

Give me a young, faster driver any day of the week. At least they don't dither about, wandering from lane to lane, turning without indicating and then getting incandescent with rage and flashing lights at you when you dare to over take them.

 

[T14086]

I completely disagree with that have you seen the price of property nowadays? My dads mortgage is £89 a month ending next year, Mine when I had one was £640 a month.

but I thought most people stayed at home & sponged off parents...or is that just my clan

older people have house/families to pay for but young single folk have only £3.49 per day to for out for big mac meal.

try Trading Standards for the shoes.

thank you......your honour I'll ask Zakt he's in the CAB

 

[arc]

It would be interesting to be able to compare 17-20 year olds on an accidents per thousand miles compared against 80-83 year olds. Whilst I do not doubt the 17-20 year olds accidents are worse due to greater speeds involved I wouldn't be surprised to find the older drivers having more accidents for distance covered. But I doubt such statistics are readily available.

very good point.

I'm struggling to recall an incident of a young driver crashing into a shop / through a wall etc by pressing the wrong pedal - but seems to happen often to the OAPs. Maybe it's "the kids" swapping the pedals around for the lulz?

Also, I wonder how many accidents are caused by OAPs who simply drive off unaware of the mess they've triggered.

 

[Venters]

Also, I wonder how many accidents are caused by OAPs who simply drive off unaware of the mess they've triggered.

I remember my Gran driving her Uno home after it had been written off whilst parked in Asdas car park. She noticed it was a little drafty but didn't notice the fact half the car was mangled.

 

[Ffoxy]

I'm guessing you don't spend a lot of time in North London?

In the past 2 months I've seen the following, all done by middle aged and above drivers:

- A man eating cereal from a bowl with milk on the M1 at 70mph
- A man shaving, with a razor
- A woman taking her seatbelt off to reach into the back seat to hit a child also bouncing about with no seatbelt on
- More people weaving about from lane to lane on the north circular than I can count
- A couple having an arugment where they were throwing things (fags, phones, a to z) at each other while doing 40mph

In that same period in the same area I've seen exactly zero boy racers being idiots.

Give me a young, faster driver any day of the week. At least they don't dither about, wandering from lane to lane, turning without indicating and then getting incandescent with rage and flashing lights at you when you dare to over take them.

Yah.... but that is Nth Laaandan... bunch of in-breeds lol!

No seriously, I'm watching where I'm driving wherever I drive as opposed to such close older driver observation you clearly have time to do whilst driving... or would that be when stuck in static traffic?

Bottom line is, from current stats :-
Younger drivers pay more as they represent a higher risk, & young male drivers top that group. Whether that is from inexperience, lack of observation, road-craft, speeding or turning do-nuts on the M25, or lack of consideration for other drivers thats the way it is....

 

[johnw]

In the past 2 months I've seen the following, all done by middle aged and above drivers:

- A man eating cereal from a bowl with milk on the M1 at 70mph
- A man shaving, with a razor
- A woman taking her seatbelt off to reach into the back seat to hit a child also bouncing about with no seatbelt on
- More people weaving about from lane to lane on the north circular than I can count
- A couple having an arugment where they were throwing things (fags, phones, a to z) at each other while doing 40mph

In that same period in the same area I've seen exactly zero boy racers being idiots.

the figures I quoted originate in court records from every magistrates court and crown court in England and Wales. It is my belief they are more likely to be accurate than observations in one locality by one person.

Give me a young, faster driver any day of the week. At least they don't dither about, wandering from lane to lane, turning without indicating and then getting incandescent with rage and flashing lights at you when you dare to over take them.

Yes they do. All that and a lot more. As do all age groups of drivers. Its just that young drivers do it more often. A few days watching proceedings when your local court is dealing with motoring matters will show you that.

 

[jnoiles]

No seriously, I'm watching where I'm driving wherever I drive as opposed to such close older driver observation you clearly have time to do whilst driving... or would that be when stuck in static traffic?

I watch everything. Other drivers, overhead gantrys, the cars next to me, the rear view mirror, the side mirrors, lots of stuff. I find I get run into less that way

Bottom line is, from current stats :-
Younger drivers pay more as they represent a higher risk, & young male drivers top that group. Whether that is from inexperience, lack of observation, road-craft, speeding or turning do-nuts on the M25, or lack of consideration for other drivers thats the way it is....

And overall I'm not arguing with that. I'm was just venting really. Most of the idiots I seem to see aren't boy racers but middle aged people acting in a way that scares me.

the figures I quoted originate in court records from every magistrates court and crown court in England and Wales. It is my belief they are more likely to be accurate than observations in one locality by one person.

Not doubting it, as per above. I was just letting of steam really. The stats for insurance costs on younger drivers would tend to agree with the info you posted. Young people are more of a risk.

Yes they do. All that and a lot more. As do all age groups of drivers. Its just that young drivers do it more often. A few days watching proceedings when your local court is dealing with motoring matters will show you that.

Again, not disagreeing. Just an observation that lately I'm noticing the dangerous stuff where I drive less from the boy racers.

 

[Rawb]

From this thread I do fully agree that there are a lot of dangerous drivers out on the road now a days, Plenty of my neighbours are very dangerous drivers

I've even seen the whole BMW 1 series and the snow chains on the front wheels just down the road from me also, It's just lack of common sense... Misjudgement of corners/speed/driving abilities, It all contributes to accidents. There is nothing in this thread that I wouldn't agree with at the moment.

Due to statistics throwing the blame to teenagers etc, I can fully agree with it... Someone needs to take the blame for all the Atrocious driving.

Most accidents do come from teenagers, Mainly idiots that have no pride in their cars, people that cherish their cars as I do and so does Rigby on here... are usually sensible drivers and fully understand their limits within driving. Most of my "friends" just get given £5,000+ to chuck at a new car and then insurance paid for them, Many a time I've seen idiotic drivers in brand new cars with baby faces like mine. That is life, If parents decide to do that with their cash and in some way hope their child will get out alive with a 5 star encap car when they crash it at 80mph with 5 chavs in the car then so be it. I despise idiots that fork money off their parents to afford expensive cars and then treat them poorly, it's not the way it should be.

My way of looking at it is, Driving is a LUXURY and most teenagers that give the very small section of us a bad name by driving irresponsibly don't even have a good outlook on driving, they see it as a way of socialising with mates, showing off etc, mainly causing accidents. I see it as a form of taking glory over my shed of a Fiat that I drive, Getting to and from of work and college and occasionally helping out my family.

So far i've not even got close to having an accident but I've also witnessed the incompetence of the general public that drive, Idiots reversing into me whilst parked up putting petrol in my car Not even checking their mirrors, Many people I see not even managing to use the correct lanes on the roundabout, I indicate all the time/use the correct lane (I even indicate at 1:00 in the morning on the way back from work) It's a habit and people shouldn't get sloppy after passing their test. I also think that people should be forced to re-take their test upon proving their incompetence to drive correctly.



- Rigby, I think I know who you mean.

 

[claymore]

Give me a young, faster driver any day of the week. At least they don't dither about, wandering from lane to lane, turning without indicating and then getting incandescent with rage and flashing lights at you when you dare to over take them.

Here in edinburgh the too young or old either do this or crash.

 

[ChrisUK]

Re: Proof! OAPs arin e safe drivers

Here in edinburgh the too young or old either do this or crash.

I must admit I was in edinburgh in November and the amount of near accident's I witnessed was unbelievable. Drive like loons

 

[johnw]

Most accidents do come from teenagers, Mainly idiots that have no pride in their cars, people that cherish their cars as I do and so does Rigby on here... are usually sensible drivers and fully understand their limits within driving.

this is not a personal attack on either of the people named here but it helps to make my point. Nobody sets out to crash. Everybody drives within what they think are their limits. We still have crashes and people still get convicted of dangerous driving.

The problem being that people tend to overestimate their abilities.