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Hi Herts.

Yes does make sense of the error types but car is still under a warranty so best route is to let the garage have the issue. The moment any error codes get deleted or anyone else works on the car then they can walk away from any responsabìlty of warranty. Often its an insurance policy so the garage will actually get paid( maybe reduced rate) for the repair. Unless they designate battery to be a service part.
 
timmycm850 said:
Hi Herts.

Yes does make sense of the error types but car is still under a warranty so best route is to let the garage have the issue. The moment any error codes get deleted or anyone else works on the car then they can walk away from any responsabìlty of warranty. Often its an insurance policy so the garage will actually get paid( maybe reduced rate) for the repair. Unless they designate battery to be a service part.
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Yes - go back under warranty. But don’t let them fib you off. Forewarned and all that.
 
Robotstar4 said:
So the battery may be original, I will have to look for a date code on it.

After it had been resting for a few hours it was showing 12.66V

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Started the car to check if it was charging OK and all the warning lights had cleared!, charging at 14.36V

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I'll have to get the
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Herts Hillhopper said:
Come back to the start…
Four lights.
One is a tyre pressure error. It doesn’t know what the tyre pressures are — it uses the ABS sensors to see if one wheel is going a bit slower (which it would with a soft tyre). The ABS sensors are also used by the ESC system. I think there’s been a previous thread with similar warnings?

The yellow triangle normally has an accompanying message on the dash, such as ‘check number plate lights’. But there is one situation where no message shows, and that’s when the Earth connector to the oil pressure switch fails (but usually only with the TwinAir engine)

The general engine fault light can caused by all sorts of things and to be honest, only a code reader can tell you which one.

So, while we’ve all said ‘battery’ I’m less sure it is. The normal series of warnings with a low battery appear as written messages, and tend to be ‘ESC unavailable’, ‘Hill holder unavailable’ and ‘4x4 unavailable’. And you’ve not seen those? And not normally the ‘check engine’ light.

If it’s a twin air, see this thread:
Post in thread 'Yellow triangle of death'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/yellow-triangle-of-death.521828/post-4854741

A plug in OBD ‘thing’ is cheaper than a battery, and for many things the free CarScanner app is pretty good. The Fiat-specific MultiECUScan software is better but £50 licence.
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Too many lights means system confusion, at 12.3V its clearly a tired battery if not yet a failed one. I would try substituing another battery and see what happens. One light or two may be a specific thing related to the lights, more is most likely the battery. The car is too new I think for it to have all of a sudden a ple of faults or earthing issues. Its clearly in good nick. Maybe its protesting about the weight of the fiat stuff on board. Many Pandas are similarly laden down. Mine has 9 permanent passengers for example. My battery is weakening at over 7 years old but will still charge to 14.4V and sits at 13.6V for a day or two before dropping down to 12.9V. Im expecting it may need changing if we get a cold snap but I have a new non EFB spare if it fails completely to get me out of immediate trouble until a proper battery can be obtained. If the battery has dropped and only doing short runs the stop start becomes erratic which I believe is the first big warning sign.
 
Been in touch with the garage and it's booked in on Tuesday, they plan to charge the battery overnight then drop test it, I thought drop testing went out with the ark?, anyway we will see what the outcome of that is and go from there.
Personally, if they don't condemn the battery I think we'll invest a new one.
 
Robotstar4 said:
Been in touch with the garage and it's booked in on Tuesday, they plan to charge the battery overnight then drop test it, I thought drop testing went out with the ark?, anyway we will see what the outcome of that is and go from there.
Personally, if they don't condemn the battery I think we'll invest a new one.
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When my last battery went it showed a reasonable voltage but was FLAT. One dead cell was responsible. Im still a believer that the old ways are still often the best. I changed out teh battery from one Panda to the other and that battery failed a week later, no warning. I thoughht the car had a problem, but no it was just two dead batteries. Both the replacement batteries are still good 3 years later.
 
Just to wrap this thread up, we dropped the car off this morning and got a call this afternoon, they had fitted a new battery and ready for collection (y)

Only a Halfords, but it has a 5 year warranty and it was free.

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Robotstar4 said:
Just to wrap this thread up, we dropped the car off this morning and got a call this afternoon, they had fitted a new battery and ready for collection (y)

Only a Halfords, but it has a 5 year warranty and it was free.
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Halfords own brand I am told are Yuasa battereis which I believe to be a good quality make. Three of our cars them them fitted and I have a spare of a car we scrapped two years ago on my bench on a smart charger. That one sits showing 14v at the moment. Im glad you are sorted.
 
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The Panda Nut said:
Halfords own brand I am told are Yuasa battereis which I believe to be a good quality make. Three of our cars them them fitted and I have a spare of a car wew scrapped two years ago on my bench on a smart charger. That one sits showing 14v at the moment. Im glad you are sorted.
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Yes to be fair to Halfords (and I find it difficult sometimes!) their battery deals seem pretty reasonable (warranty wise at least) I have not used them for the FIAT but once we got through the "it's not charging" (alternator) misdiagnosis on my Volvo they swapped out the battery for free at 3 years and 9 months (4 year warranty) with no more quibbles. Interesting that the replacement battery will not be covered for the next 4 years even though its the same battery but I am not complaining.

The challenge for me was keeping and finding the original receiept.
 
Robotstar4 said:
Been in touch with the garage and it's booked in on Tuesday, they plan to charge the battery overnight then drop test it, I thought drop testing went out with the ark?, anyway we will see what the outcome of that is and go from there.
Personally, if they don't condemn the battery I think we'll invest a new one.
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Still prefer drop testing to using the AVO meter, gives a good account of a battery ‘under load’…problem these days is no one seems to have one and mine died years ago
 
Panda IIs said:
Yes to be fair to Halfords (and I find it difficult sometimes!) their battery deals seem pretty reasonable (warranty wise at least) I have not used them for the FIAT but once we got through the "it's not charging" (alternator) misdiagnosis on my Volvo they swapped out the battery for free at 3 years and 9 months (4 year warranty) with no more quibbles. Interesting that the replacement battery will not be covered for the next 4 years even though its the same battery but I am not complaining.

The challenge for me was keeping and finding the original receiept.
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And dont take the emailed receipts either. They decided not to write down the email I gave them for the receipt ona tyre inflator. It took an almighty effort to get that resolved. In fairness they did,and replaced the thing which is still going many years later. I have a strict system for receipts and credit card statement to back it up now.
 
porta said:
Still prefer drop testing to using the AVO meter, gives a good account of a battery ‘under load’…problem these days is no one seems to have one and mine died years ago
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I still use my AVO where a digital meter is "too accurate" where the digits jump around constantly, the AVO will smooth them out.

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I do have a drop tester

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But have replaced it with a modern compact battery analyser

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