Technical Huge electrical problem; diagram needed please.

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Hello folks,

First of; excuse my english as it is not my native language and feel free to correct me; it helps me out a lot.

I've got a problem with my Punto 188 facelift type from 2004.
It started out with the instrument cluster resetting itself every once in a while and has come down to the car sometimes not starting/not opening with remote control/all kind of failures.......

The problem seems to be in the bcm (it seems like it won't deliver the earth to some relais), but just now, I noticed that -when the problem is there- even the heater blower runs slow. This blower, doesn't go through the bcm......

It's a very, very long story and it is getting complicated.
I'm pretty good in looking up this kind of failures, but I don't have a proper wiring diagram. The one I have is from HGS data and this one isn't correct; pin numbers are wrong, wire colors are wrong and so on.
Also; I can't "see" what happens Inside the bcm (but most diagrams won't let you).

The failure is not always there, so measuring is hard.
I need to measure the right things at the right moment.

Is there someone who can provide me with a proper diagram? Mainly bcm related, but anything else is very nice too; you never know, right?


Let me elaborate some more on the matter; when the car had some sleep for a night, the doors won't open with RC. The display won't work, after ignition (15) the windows don't work, heater blower runs very slow and the car won't start; it goes round so it has enough power, but starts after a few times.
I hear relais (for example from the windows, that should have power when ignition is on) clicking. When the dash goes down again; the relais clicks and vice versa.
I looked at all connectors, earth points, opened the bcm (some old water trails in there, wiped it clean) and opened the relais box for the interior; all okay.
Trouble codes; none. Yes, when the power goes away in half the systems; there are some codes saying the power was down (extension "MEM").

So.......bcm? I thought, but heater motor doing strange things is not saying that.
I really need some good diagrams; please help me out if you can people?

It is very much appreciated!
 
Hello folks,

First of; excuse my english as it is not my native language and feel free to correct me; it helps me out a lot.

I've got a problem with my Punto 188 facelift type from 2004.
It started out with the instrument cluster resetting itself every once in a while and has come down to the car sometimes not starting/not opening with remote control/all kind of failures.......

The problem seems to be in the bcm (it seems like it won't deliver the earth to some relais), but just now, I noticed that -when the problem is there- even the heater blower runs slow. This blower, doesn't go through the bcm......

It's a very, very long story and it is getting complicated.
I'm pretty good in looking up this kind of failures, but I don't have a proper wiring diagram. The one I have is from HGS data and this one isn't correct; pin numbers are wrong, wire colors are wrong and so on.
Also; I can't "see" what happens Inside the bcm (but most diagrams won't let you).

The failure is not always there, so measuring is hard.
I need to measure the right things at the right moment.

Is there someone who can provide me with a proper diagram? Mainly bcm related, but anything else is very nice too; you never know, right?


Let me elaborate some more on the matter; when the car had some sleep for a night, the doors won't open with RC. The display won't work, after ignition (15) the windows don't work, heater blower runs very slow and the car won't start; it goes round so it has enough power, but starts after a few times.
I hear relais (for example from the windows, that should have power when ignition is on) clicking. When the dash goes down again; the relais clicks and vice versa.
I looked at all connectors, earth points, opened the bcm (some old water trails in there, wiped it clean) and opened the relais box for the interior; all okay.
Trouble codes; none. Yes, when the power goes away in half the systems; there are some codes saying the power was down (extension "MEM").

So.......bcm? I thought, but heater motor doing strange things is not saying that.
I really need some good diagrams; please help me out if you can people?

It is very much appreciated!

First thing I would do is deal with the heater motor which needs an earth next to the engine fuse box fitted to the wing. Make sure all of those earths on the wing are 100%.

I have a 2005 mk2b 1.2 16V dynamic with ME73h4001 ECU and I never found a wiring diagram. If you search the forum on after market central locking you can find which wire is the body fuse box lock wire and the unlock wire which might help you troubleshoot.
 
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Hello folks,

First of; excuse my english as it is not my native language and feel free to correct me; it helps me out a lot.

I've got a problem with my Punto 188 facelift type from 2004.
It started out with the instrument cluster resetting itself every once in a while and has come down to the car sometimes not starting/not opening with remote control/all kind of failures.......


It is very much appreciated!
Hi, and welcome, :)
as others have suggested;
a new battery , and clean earth points, and a replacement MAIN earth cable ( battery to chassis to gearbox)

before wasting time on OTHER things..,;)

have you tried doing a relearn to get the different ECU's back in Sync.??:confused:
 
Thanks for the response guys!

The battery is new as a matter of fact and I did check/clean the earth points, all of them.
I didn't change out the whole cable though......can do that.

Also; I didn't try and sync the different ecu's, but I think my tester will not do that; visit to mister Fiat it is than ;)

Thanks again, much appreciated!
 
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