Styling OK i've got a problem with interior lights (LED)

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Styling OK i've got a problem with interior lights (LED)

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Right I got two blue 6 LED interior lights for my punto mk2 off ebay,
fitted and worked but they stay on very dull when they go off, so then went halfords thinking my lights were crap, got another set fitted and have the same problem??? But if I put 1 normal bulb and 1 blue LED bulb in it all works fine??? :bang:
can someone help?????? PLEASE :worship:
 
Right I got two blue 6 LED interior lights for my punto mk2 off ebay,
fitted and worked but they stay on very dull when they go off, so then went halfords thinking my lights were crap, got another set fitted and have the same problem??? But if I put 1 normal bulb and 1 blue LED bulb in it all works fine??? :bang:
can someone help?????? PLEASE :worship:

i bought some led bulbs of ebay a while back, if you want my advice get rid of them!!!

I was bought two, one was broken so they sent another set that blew the fuse. Another set was sent again it blew the fuse as soon as the light came on. The bog standard bulb is actually brighter i think, you can get a bulb lacquer for the bulbs i think if you want them blue.
 
Stebo,

Are these LED lamps used in replacement of the existing interior lamps or wired as extras?

Either way, I think I can explain what's occurring. The Mk2 uses a body computer to control the interior lighting (exterior as well). It uses semiconductors to switch the 12V on. However, when the signal is "off", there is still a small current from the body computer. This is not enough to light a filament lamp but it can easily light LEDs. When you fit one of each type of lamp, the filament lamp sinks the current and effectively reduces the voltage below that needed to light the LEDs.

If you know what you're doing you could fix a resistor across the circuit to have the same effect as having a filament lamp there. I say "know what you're doing" because you'd need to select a resistor value to be low enough to pull the voltage below the threshold needed to light the LEDs but not so low as it gets hot when the lights are on. Having selected a resistor value (Ohms) you'd need to calculate maximum dissipation (Watts) to get the correct size.

For instance, here's the wattage worked out based on supply voltage of 13.8V for some typical resistor vaules:

100R - 1.90W
120R - 1.59W
150R - 1.27W
180R - 1.06W
220R - 0.87W
270R - 0.71W
330R - 0.58W
390R - 0.49W
470R - 0.41W

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Stebo,

Are these LED lamps used in replacement of the existing interior lamps or wired as extras?

Either way, I think I can explain what's occurring. The Mk2 uses a body computer to control the interior lighting (exterior as well). It uses semiconductors to switch the 12V on. However, when the signal is "off", there is still a small current from the body computer. This is not enough to light a filament lamp but it can easily light LEDs. When you fit one of each type of lamp, the filament lamp sinks the current and effectively reduces the voltage below that needed to light the LEDs.

If you know what you're doing you could fix a resistor across the circuit to have the same effect as having a filament lamp there. I say "know what you're doing" because you'd need to select a resistor value to be low enough to pull the voltage below the threshold needed to light the LEDs but not so low as it gets hot when the lights are on. Having selected a resistor value (Ohms) you'd need to calculate maximum dissipation (Watts) to get the correct size.

For instance, here's the wattage worked out based on supply voltage of 13.8V for some typical resistor vaules:

100R - 1.90W
120R - 1.59W
150R - 1.27W
180R - 1.06W
220R - 0.87W
270R - 0.71W
330R - 0.58W
390R - 0.49W
470R - 0.41W

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so if I put them in would they flatten my battery if they stay on a little???? :confused:
 
The output from the body computer goes off after a while so I wouldn't expect the battery to drain. If the LEDs are staying on a little all the time 24/7 then you could loose some battery charge over a period. It dependson the mount of current and the time period. The main issue is whether it is a nuisance to have them on a little when they should be off.

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