It's official.......WE'RE OUT!!

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It's official.......WE'RE OUT!!

Just for all those saying the pound is at it's lowest after the vote, the lowest the pound dropped against the Euro was between 2013-2014 down to 1.15, it's currently at 1.23 and steadying. Which will mean it will start to rise again soon.


Yep it's more a case of the value of the dollar had increased.

The American won't like this for long as they can buy our stuff cheaply with their dollars but the rest of Europe won't be buying so much of their stuff.

It's just a phase which won't last long
 
24 hours of venomous rhetoric by the vote remain camp while the vote leavers sit quietly.

People voting leave were (aside from the couple of morons they have found to put on the tv) well aware of what the result would do to the pound and stock markets. But we are only 24 hrs in and what was initially knocked off the ftse has mostly recovered already and the value of the pound is down against the dollar which again has recovered a fair amount over the last few hours, it's not that far down against the euro which has been much lower on and off over the last few years. That's how economies work they go up and down dependent on market forces.

The baby boomers are the generation who have felt most aggrieved by the EU and how it evolved from a trade partnership into something that's nothing short of an abusive relationship. So it's understandable they want out. They watch their children (my generation) unable to buy their own homes and facing the biggest longest recession in history, with countries continually needing bail outs while those same countries build new infrastructure and bridges, while we have to make do with billions of pot holes and a high speed rail service plan which will cost tens of billions and those guesses go up day by day.

Our economy will recover quickly and with the rules of Brussels we'll be less restricted.

What's done is done and we're off. Lots of angry people want another referendum, well tough that's not how politics and democratic process works, if it's still a leave what do you do? Best of 5? A vote to remain a second time would need at least a 3rd go to break the tie.

The EU want us to go quickly to remove uncertainty from the economy so go we must.

Over 50% of the U.K. Population voted to leave and to label 51.9% of the country bigoted and racist because they don't agree with your views is not only entirely wrong but completely unacceptable and disrespectful.

We now need to deal with the fall out and make this work, then we as a country can stick to fingers up to the rest of the would and prove that we aren't just some little rock in the Atlantic that used to have an empire but now just follow what some bureaucrats in Brussels tell us.

What ever your view on the result we need to work together to make it work and get things back on course. There are a lot of big possibilities now open to us now and a lot of doors closing, let's make the most of what we have.

The biggest surprise to me is not the result but the moaning from those who don't like the result, that's politics it's been the case for hundreds of years in the UK so get used to it

I do believe in democracy, doesn't mean I have to agree with the result.
 
I do believe in democracy, doesn't mean I have to agree with the result.
I didn't think it would be long before the insults would start.
In a referendum such as this different people will have different reasons for voting the way they did. It does not mean that they are all thick, morons, racists or bigots.
Are all the immigrants who voted OUT all racist bigots?
My motivation for voting OUT was because the organisation that we joined all those years ago has morphed in to something totally different now.
It is corrupt, corrosive and totally unaccountable. I am a reluctant Outer because I believe that the EU will never reform. In fact it will get worse and tie our country up in more knots as time goes by.
I expect we will eventually be able to control immigration but we will never be able or will we want to stop it completely.
I have worked all my life before being made redundant from a good job. I have travelled to over 50 countries for work and trade with and have good friends all over the world. I voted out because I believe it is the right thing for the country in the long term even though in the short term I lost money even on the day of the result because of the exchange rate because I received a payment in Euros.
Labour seem to think their voters voted OUT as a protest against "Tory Cuts".
As long as they keep believing that they will be out of power forever.
Some people seem to be suggesting that an OUT vote is a wish to turn back the clock and that we will all be unable to cross the channel and Spanish oranges will be a thing of the past! Absolute rubbish.
My vote OUT is to move us forwards not backwards.
 
As a lorry driver i'll give you the same short answer I give everyone who trots out this old chestnut.... if you don't want lorries on the roads don't buy anything ever again.... the babyboomers have taken the cheap housing,good wages, excellent pensions,lower working hours, extravagant benefits and superior interest rates and dividends on their shares and savings, they have played the housing market boom for the past 50 years and done very well out of it thankyou and now they've denied the future generations the opportunity to enjoy EU funding and a global identity in favour of a faded british bulldog flag and dads army on repeat for all eternity... everyone who voted out should feel deeply ashamed and I promise you all, you will regret it.[/QUOTE
OK - no argument with the trucks. A necessity.
So "baby boomers" are denying you the right to "enjoy EU funding".
We are nett contributors to the EU twice as much as we get back, so unless you are being personally subsidised by the EU in some way because of where you live or the industry you are in, then you are funding the EU, not the other way round.
If you want to remain part of the EU, which keeps adding more and more impoverished countries, how will that help you to buy a house that you can afford?
In many countries in Europe they are having their pensions slashed. As you quite rightly feel strongly about pensions you might want to bear that in mind if the EU is club you want to remain in.
 
I stand by my comments regardless of what you say, lines have been drawn in this country by this referendum, I voted with the best interests of my children and grandchildren in mind for their future and I disagree with everything the selfish insular flat world 'leave' voters stand for, and yes I DO believe racism was a prime motivation for a large majority of 'leave' voters... well all I can say is thanks very much and my conscience is clear and I swear if I hear one more person mention the bl**dy war or how we used to be 'Great' Britain i'll throw something at the television... This is the 21st century and we had the opportunity to move forward as Europeans to discover, engage with and be a part of something bigger than us but instead we'd rather sing god save the queen and pretend white is the only colour..pah.
 
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I agree that this has caused divisions and I really wish that the EU could realise the need to reform itself and then a different outcome would have happened.
We are not disengaging from anything or anybody.
You could always exercise your right to freedom of movement if it gets too unbearable here of course!
 
... or how we used to be 'Great' Britain ...

When Britain being 'great' is mentioned, usually by politicians, it always makes me smile.
The origin of the title "Great Britain" is from the French, "Grande Bretagne". Despite our long history of war and disagreement with France, our country is actually named by them.

When trying to learn French, at school and a couple of times since (not succeeded) I have learnt a little history, and that there are many similar words in our languages, but have different meanings.
Grande in French means big. We also use great to mean big in some situations, especially when naming towns and villages. e.g. near me is Great Coxwell and Little Coxwell. My current home is properly named Great Faringdon, to differentiate it from Little Faringdon a few miles away.

There is a region of northern France called Brittany, or to the French, Bretagne. Then there is us, named by the French as 'Big Brittany', or Grande Bretagne, from which we derived Great Britain.

So when people promise to make Britain Great again, they must be talking about its size?:D
 
Yes,all the above is true but on this forum the REALLY IMPORTANT question is.... Will we still want to buy our beloved Italian cars (even those built in Poland ) will we still be able to import spares at reasonable prices. If I wasn't bald already I could go grey with worry.
 
I stand by my comments regardless of what you say, lines have been drawn in this country by this referendum, I voted with the best interests of my children and grandchildren in mind for their future and I disagree with everything the selfish insular flat world 'leave' voters stand for, and yes I DO believe racism was a prime motivation for a large majority of 'leave' voters...


So is your belief that 51.9% of the U.K. Public are racist....?

It is very much a good idea to keep that sort of statement to yourself as it's such a huge number of people that could and will easily be your friends neighbours and even family, employers or employers of friends and family. Friends of friends, just about anywhere you encounter people in your daily life, they won't stay your friend for long when you start loudly proclaiming you think they're racist.

I work with dozens of people from all over the world both in and out of the EU, the majority of those in the health service where are used to work are from places like India and the Philippines, non of them are part of the EU but are still welcome here.

Long before they joined the EU the Romanians still sent thousands of people to the UK foto work in the uk I worked and made friends with many in the early 2000s.

My boss until recently was Romanian he'd been here for well over a decade before Romania joined the EU plenty of Americans come here to work and study from outside theEU AND PLENTY OF Uk born people work in other parts of the worked out of the EU. So please explain how not being in the EU is racist ?

The economic reasons for remaining are also irrelevant to the man on the street as they revolve largely around the way our financial services work with financial services abroad or in the EU At least, to the detriment of our trading with the rest of the world.

To me it does not really matter in or out, my company is based in America and competes very well against EU rivals, and even more so now that the advantage isn't to the EU companies, this is great news, it means an influx of investment in the UK from countries previously penalised by the EU rules we had little choice over.

Look at it this way, if you sit 28 people round the table some rich and some poor and tell that 28 people that they all have to look at the menu and choose the one same meal that everyone is happy with, then at least one person is going to get something they don't want or like. The richer members of the dinner party will end up footing the larger part of the bill while those with little money will get a slap up dinner without paying.

When this process happens over and over with the wealthy members always footing the bill and frequently getting what they don't want, eventually something has got to give.
 
I stand by my comments regardless of what you say, lines have been drawn in this country by this referendum, I voted with the best interests of my children and grandchildren in mind for their future and I disagree with everything the selfish insular flat world 'leave' voters stand for, and yes I DO believe racism was a prime motivation for a large majority of 'leave' voters... well all I can say is thanks very much and my conscience is clear and I swear if I hear one more person mention the bl**dy war or how we used to be 'Great' Britain i'll throw something at the television... This is the 21st century and we had the opportunity to move forward as Europeans to discover, engage with and be a part of something bigger than us but instead we'd rather sing god save the queen and pretend white is the only colour..pah.

Only person I know who voted out to "stop Romanian immigrants coming here and living off benefit " was my Turkish barber he thought it unfair that he had to have a job before arrival pay £2000 and have full back ground checks on his whole family and others just walk in and live for free
 
AndyRKett:So is your belief that 51.9% of the U.K. Public are racist....?

I think its probably higher than that.

AndyRKett:It is very much a good idea to keep that sort of statement to yourself as it's such a huge number of people that could and will easily be your friends neighbours and even family, employers or employers of friends and family. Friends of friends, just about anywhere you encounter people in your daily life, they won't stay your friend for long when you start loudly proclaiming you think they're racist.

No...i'll tell them to their face thanks and I wouldn't want a blatant racist as a friend anyway... family I can't choose but I can certainly avoid them and that's an incredibly patronising comment btw.
 
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Think it's about time this thread was locked due to some of the comments made on here...

We're not quite there yet but people do need to calm down a bit. Suggesting that most people who voted out are racist makes me nervous though :( I voted out, and immigration wasn't even on my radar for wanting to leave. I think that the E.U has become a bloated organisation that's been holding our country back. I voted because I belived it to be the right thing for Britain and (ironically) our children.

lets debate nicely - there's no need for insults (y)
 
AndyRKett:So is your belief that 51.9% of the U.K. Public are racist....?

I think its probably higher than that.

AndyRKett:It is very much a good idea to keep that sort of statement to yourself as it's such a huge number of people that could and will easily be your friends neighbours and even family, employers or employers of friends and family. Friends of friends, just about anywhere you encounter people in your daily life, they won't stay your friend for long when you start loudly proclaiming you think they're racist.

No...i'll tell them to their face thanks and I wouldn't want a blatant racist as a friend anyway... family I can't choose but I can certainly avoid them and that's an incredibly patronising comment btw.


Just shows how irrational you are and that what you're saying can't really be taken seriously then, suggesting anyone who voted out is 'blatantly racist'

You're entire view that anyone who voted out should be shunned or avoided including family is incredibly patronising.

You can look at the whole issue as one of immigration if you like, but if you apply logic it's easy to see our country would collapse completely if we suddenly threw out every EU national who has moved here and works hear under the benefits of the EU, and many countries around the EU are not going to suddenly eject all our expats home. In essence this result won't make any difference to the free movement of people, and we have no problems with the movement of people from outside of the EU who come here to work.

Yes I agree there are people out there, the type which carry an EDL membership card and follow Britain first on Facebook which see the whole thing as "stopping foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs" but to take the stance you are, not looking at the bigger picture means that you're just as bad as these people stood on the opposite side of that exact same argument with nothing more expansive, considered or important to say that those people have.

At the moment political parties are falling apart left right and centre at the moment and the level of anger being vented by yourself and others, is just the sort of thing that could end up affording some actual power to idiots like Nigel Farrage and the types of groups he is the leader of.
 
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