What's made you grumpy today?

[Vimto Rolf]

Can you name some Windows hardware that is commonly used then that you're basing your argument on?

And can you give a substantiated example of where a 'compatible' based hardware built Apple computer is considerably cheaper than an equivilent spec and performing PC?

Go on, I DARE you!

again diverting the subject i DIDNT SAY WINDOWS HARDWARE I SAID MICROSOFT. microsoft do make hardware in the form of peripherals if nothing else so prices can be compared between these and the apple equivelent.

i havent got all day to explain all the details of hackintosh there is enough info about that on google if you fancy a read. but other than a few selct pieces of hardaware and certain amd processors it will pretty much run on any pc.

That carries 0 weight Carl. You live with your parents. They buy what they want not what you like. YOU dont have 11 PCs your house does. And anyway even if you personally did have 11 PCs then you wouldnt slate them at every oppourtunity would you?

ok there are a total of 12 computers in the house including a mac. 4 of which are mine.

Carl why does only 2 companies out of 10's of thousands of companies that my work support use mac's?

and out of about 50-60 of us in the office how come no one has any qualifications on apple software/hardware?

probably because those 2 companies work in media ie graphics design, audio, video or computer games. but that doesnt really have much baring in the scheme of things.

 

[angel]

I grumpy cos you're all talking about Mac's and ours dont work ...

 

[Captain Mike]

Carl when will you stop talking sh*t?

 

[punto_matt]

Never

 

[Vimto Rolf]

Carl when will you stop talking sh*t?

id love to see you justify why that is warranted going by my above posts on Apple vs Windows/Microsoft vs Linux

 

[Chas Uno]

again diverting the subject i DIDNT SAY WINDOWS HARDWARE I SAID MICROSOFT. microsoft do make hardware in the form of peripherals if nothing else so prices can be compared between these and the apple equivelent.

Then name some Microsoft hardware Rolf. You made a claim that their hardware is more expensive than Apple equivilent. Can't you back up this claim or is it the usual Apple fanboy Microsoft bashing hearsay?

i havent got all day to explain all the details of hackintosh there is enough info about that on google if you fancy a read. but other than a few selct pieces of hardaware and certain amd processors it will pretty much run on any pc. .

That's not what was being discussed. You said:

if you want to talk about compatible hardware then mac hardware is just as cheap which would make a mac computer considerably cheaper than a wondows one. (hackintosh64)

So where are the examples of these compatible mac hardware that makes a mac computer considerably cheaper than a PC?

Rolf, half the reason Apple users/ owners are treated with contempt these days is because many of them slag off PC's/ Microsoft with the same old cliched myths, but can never back up their claims when challenged. When I challenged you, you turn around and say you' haven't got all day to discuss to discuss the details', which sounds more likely that you don't have the details to back up your claims.

And if PC's are so crap/ unreliable/ whatever, how come the majority of the forumers manage to post without issues on the forum every day just as well as you do using a mac? Think about it...

 

[punto_matt]

And if they are so crap why do you own 3/4 of them carl?

 

[Chas Uno]

And if they are so crap why do you own 3/4 of them carl?

 

[Captain Mike]

id love to see you justify why that is warranted going by my above posts on Apple vs Windows/Microsoft vs Linux

Because you make sweeping statements over and over again and when someone proves you wrong or picks holes in your theories you just side step the matter and change the arguement to something totally irrelevant.

 

[M111CYY]

People who ring the wrong number and instead of apoligising and putting the phone down they just try to get the information that they originally wanted out of you.

"can you give me the rright number for them then please"

"what number have I dialed then"

"can you put me through to them"

:bang:

people do that to us at work, they supposed to ring main switchboard, but if they dont answer and they know our number they ring us and want putting through. its like i should just ignore the patients to answer the phone

 

[Vimto Rolf]

Then name some Microsoft hardware Rolf. You made a claim that their hardware is more expensive than Apple equivilent. Can't you back up this claim or is it the usual Apple fanboy Microsoft bashing hearsay?

microsoft make mice, keyboards, webcams and headsets. these are also products apple makes (bar headsets)

So where are the examples of these compatible mac hardware that makes a mac computer considerably cheaper than a PC?

i was referring to the ability to run osx on a pc which would make a windows computer more expensive due to its operating system being more expensive than an apple one.

Rolf, half the reason Apple users/ owners are treated with contempt these days is because many of them slag off PC's/ Microsoft with the same old cliched myths, but can never back up their claims when challenged. When I challenged you, you turn around and say you' haven't got all day to discuss to discuss the details', which sounds more likely that you don't have the details to back up your claims.

i stand nothing to gain by just aimlessly slagging off microsoft so i wouldnt waste my time. i dont like microsoft for some very easily proen reasons. windows is unstable, overpriced, insecure and in my personal opinion i find windows to be lacking in functionality in comparison to leopard with which i am a lot more familiar.

And if PC's are so crap/ unreliable/ whatever, how come the majority of the forumers manage to post without issues on the forum every day just as well as you do using a mac? Think about it...

i can post on here easily with a windows computer also i never argued that.

And if they are so crap why do you own 3/4 of them carl?

just because i own 3 pcs doesnt mean i have to like them. plus if you read i didnt say anywhere that pcs were crap. i said windows was. plus havent said what operating systems i use on them

Because you make sweeping statements over and over again and when someone proves you wrong or picks holes in your theories you just side step the matter and change the arguement to something totally irrelevant.

evidence please.


that doesnt require 5000 people trying to find posts mike finding one is sufficent.

 

[Captain Mike]

microsoft make mice, keyboards, webcams and headsets. these are also products apple makes (bar headsets)



i was referring to the ability to run osx on a pc which would make a windows computer more expensive due to its operating system being more expensive than an apple one.



i stand nothing to gain by just aimlessly slagging off microsoft so i wouldnt waste my time. i dont like microsoft for some very easily proen reasons. windows is unstable, overpriced, insecure and in my personal opinion i find windows to be lacking in functionality in comparison to leopard with which i am a lot more familiar.



i can post on here easily with a windows computer also i never argued that.



just because i own 3 pcs doesnt mean i have to like them. plus if you read i didnt say anywhere that pcs were crap. i said windows was. plus havent said what operating systems i use on them



evidence please.


that doesnt require 5000 people trying to find posts mike finding one is sufficent.

This thread.

Read back over the last 30 posts or so......

 

[volxstu]

Can't you back up this claim or is it the usual Apple fanboy Microsoft bashing hearsay?

No he cant because mac hardware is very expensive. I blew up the PSU and that was like £400 and then i blew up the mother board and it was more cost effective to spend £600 on a second hand computer.

 

[M111CYY]

me radio has broken, hate driving without music!!

 

[JFL]

they disassembled some of the play equipment at work to stop our funnies

 

[Chas Uno]

microsoft make mice, keyboards, webcams and headsets. these are also products apple makes (bar headsets)

None of which are essential/ compulsory to buy/ run or own a Windows based PC. Nonetheless, the price comparisons between these pieces of Microsoft hardware and Apple hardware is? Aren't you going to show how expensive they are compared to Apple?

i was referring to the ability to run osx on a pc which would make a windows computer more expensive due to its operating system being more expensive than an apple one.

That's a bit like saying running Windows on a new Apple would cost more than running it on a PC, because most new PC's, which spec wise are cheaper than apple equivilents, come with Windows as standard...

Again, where are the price comparisons Carl? And why would a PC owner want/ need to run OSx?

i stand nothing to gain by just aimlessly slagging off microsoft so i wouldnt waste my time.

But you already have...

i dont like microsoft for some very easily proen reasons. windows is unstable, overpriced, insecure and in my personal opinion i find windows to be lacking in functionality in comparison to leopard with which i am a lot more familiar.

Again, the sweeping statements Carl. Windows is "Unstable, overpriced, insecure"? Which is why it's the most popular o/s in the world and the majority of people on the forum use it every day?

Unstable - which is why the PC I'm using now has been running without problems for the last week without a shutdown or being turned off? Doing loads of internet use as well as imaging, word processing, music and media playing and my coursework?

Overpriced - Ultimate/ business versions of new Windows releases maybe, but not so much for the home versions. And the hardware debate is still yet to be resolved with some substantiated examples from you.

Insecure - Which is why my computer, running XP Pro and the basic Windows firewall and NO VIRUS SOFTWARE is still running fine over two years after I built it? I do all my banking/ Ebaying/ Paypal/ Student access online too, and have no problems in these areas?

If you like/ prefer apple then fine, that's your choice, but remove the blinkers and ignore the fanboy talk. Though apples may have some plus points over a pc (just as a pc has many plus points over an apple), to kid yourself with all the myths you've been quoting is to deny what the real facts are. It just makes you look like a prejudiced and a stereotypical example of an ill-informed apple fanboy who simply can't accept that anything other than apple is worth using.

For what it's worth, I've used both apples and PC's. With modern versions, I can see little difference in use in terms of performance or operating systems. The icons are slightly different, some of the procedures are slightly different, but fundamentally they're similar in day to day use. The big difference for me is that I can have a PC that does what I want far cheaper than an apple regarding the software and hardware I use. Plus my pc is functional piece of electronic equipment that sits below the desk rather something designer that I need to convince the world is better than anything else

 

[Vimto Rolf]

No he cant because mac hardware is very expensive. I blew up the PSU and that was like £400 and then i blew up the mother board and it was more cost effective to spend £600 on a second hand computer.

do not by ay means think of buying things like that off apple. get refurbed mbs as for rest go direct to supplier or go oem. apple store seem to think they can charge £800 for a 3gb stick of ram for my mac :nutter: so went and bought one off dabs for £20 to the same specs and not had a problem.

 

[volxstu]

do not by ay means think of buying things like that off apple. get refurbed mbs as for rest go direct to supplier or go oem. apple store seem to think they can charge £800 for a 3gb stick of ram for my mac :nutter: so went and bought one off dabs for £20 to the same specs and not had a problem.

Ram is I a different story and I think most people are talking about professional use where I'm sure like most people you are tied to geting most things from one place. Ram we can just buy in however we want but we can't go buying reconnd parts and fitting them ourselfs because we need to maintain a healthy relationship with the guys who do all of our servicing and repairs. That way as soon as a comp gos down they will come sort it asap, as we loose 75 squid every hour that it's down.

 

[Captain Mike]

do not by ay means think of buying things like that off apple. get refurbed mbs as for rest go direct to supplier or go oem. apple store seem to think they can charge £800 for a 3gb stick of ram for my mac :nutter: so went and bought one off dabs for £20 to the same specs and not had a problem.

You see all that text above pointing out your failings?

Now you see you have replied to another post instead of answering that?

This is the side stepping I was on about

 

[JFL]

the amount my range has just dropped with the thrash ive just given bree