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The Dash Camera Thread (Videos)
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The Dash Camera Thread (Videos)
and stickers. but a Panda driving like a loonatic, you can never discount him...
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Damn!
Although most are calling this crash for cash / insurance fraud, I call it more road rage gone wrong. If the Pug driver wanted to cause a smash they'd have hammered on the brakes - this wasn't even an emergency stop imo.
Although most are calling this crash for cash / insurance fraud, I call it more road rage gone wrong. If the Pug driver wanted to cause a smash they'd have hammered on the brakes - this wasn't even an emergency stop imo.
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Didnt try hard enough to stop the Pug didnt to be "crash for cash"
In court tho - the dash camera shoes he stopped for no reason - so the pug was driving dangerously in my eyes
And it all failed when another van or something big slammed into the back of them
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In court tho - the dash camera shoes he stopped for no reason - so the pug was driving dangerously in my eyes
And it all failed when another van or something big slammed into the back of them
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Cyclist makes a lot of noise...
IMO, he only has himself to blame.
IMO, he only has himself to blame.
Really? How do you figure that out? That driver needs to be taken back to the care home whose van he appears to have stolen.
Thats a hell of a thump he took!
So, maybe the van stopped where he did because the lights changed - amber means stop if safe to do so. He perhaps didn't realise this would inconvenience turning buses.
That aside. What is happening here has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with bike boy...
... but he wants to make it his business.
So, instead of sitting back in the bike lane/box, he goes out beyond this and starts pointing his cam at the van, bus, van.
At around 20s, the van draws back - so bike boy does the same.
but, instead of staying over to the left, in the cycle lane (which is clear @ 26s), he puts himself directly in front of the van (27s) - WHY?
And after the van barely touches him, he starts waving his arms about & talking to the van driver - let's face it, the old boy won't have a clue what this guy is saying as he's probably got engelbert humperdink on full blast.
At 1min, he directs the cam to the bike - it looks barely scratched - yet he starts telling everyone how the old boy tried to run him over & buckled his bike "he just ran over my f#ing bike" (strange how the sound of bike being mangled wasn't heard, how the only sound was biker boy banging on the bonnet).
He then begins his crusade to get the van to move back to allow the buses to turn - by putting himself right in front of the van again (he leans his bike against the bonnet).
Again, this is between bus & van - it has F#ck all to do with biker boy.
And later, he's telling everyone "I was just sitting there and he just drove into me" - well, that's a blatant lie.
And at the end, we go from "buckled" to "not rolling as well as it was".
It's really no wonder the police didn't want to get involved.
Yes, it was definitely the guy who got driven into at fault.
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He can't go in the bike box. It's full of van. He doesn't move in front of the van until it begins to reverse back to where it's supposed to be. It's at this point that the van driver suddenly pulls forward despite staring directly at a cyclist in front of him, a red light and an oncoming bus.
You might not like the cyclist but van driver is something special.
(stuff*)
He CAN go into the bike box - since the van is clearly sat outside the bike lane (by about 6" - as can be seen when the biker pulls back & turns the cam around) so there was absolutely no reason for biker boy to pull in front of the van - which, BTW, biker boy only does once he has gone back.
Whilst I agree that the van driver is something special, had I been on the bike, I would've simply sat back where I should've been in the first place & watched it all pan out - then uploaded the vid to have a laugh at the van driver's expense.
In this case, biker boy is very lucky the van driver was an old boy - there are soo many instances of people out there getting out of their vehicles and lamping people for far less than biker boy is doing.
Whilst bike boxes take up the full width of the lane, unless I was turning right, I would never dream of taking up position directly in front of a couple of tons of metal, especially when someone as (obviously) dozy as this guy is at the wheel.
Why deliberately put yourself at risk?
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The point of advanced stop boxes is that you sit in front of the cars where they can see you. Not helpful in this case. (BTW the van is fully occupying the ASL box).
Staying in the cycle lane here could get you left hooked which is why he didn't.
With hindsight the correct thing in this case would have been to get off the road and hide behind some bins 'till the van had moved on. Maybe after about an hour.
Staying in the cycle lane here could get you left hooked which is why he didn't.
With hindsight the correct thing in this case would have been to get off the road and hide behind some bins 'till the van had moved on. Maybe after about an hour.
This is the Junction in norwich (I Know it well)
Bicycles at this junction can turn either left or right hence the box at the front of the traffic
Cars may only turn left.
the reason the busses couldn't get round the corner was because the back of the van was completely filling the box for cyclists and the front of the van was on the edge of the speed table, the junction is designed to allow busses round. by keeping cars and other vehicles back
as it is a very very sharp left turn the van should not have been going fast enough to have not been able to stop at the correct line, and should have had no excuse to be as far forward as he was.
nor should he have driven into the bike, if it was a tap or he ploughed him down, either way he should have been more careful.
It does seem though that the cyclist was spoiling for a fight in this case and had he just stayed in the cycle lane beside the van, or if turning right waited behind the van till the lights turned green then I suspect there would have been no issue
Bicycles at this junction can turn either left or right hence the box at the front of the traffic
Cars may only turn left.
the reason the busses couldn't get round the corner was because the back of the van was completely filling the box for cyclists and the front of the van was on the edge of the speed table, the junction is designed to allow busses round. by keeping cars and other vehicles back
as it is a very very sharp left turn the van should not have been going fast enough to have not been able to stop at the correct line, and should have had no excuse to be as far forward as he was.
nor should he have driven into the bike, if it was a tap or he ploughed him down, either way he should have been more careful.
It does seem though that the cyclist was spoiling for a fight in this case and had he just stayed in the cycle lane beside the van, or if turning right waited behind the van till the lights turned green then I suspect there would have been no issue
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Advanced stop lines. Some signal-controlled junctions have advanced stop lines to allow cycles to be positioned ahead of other traffic. Motorists, including motorcyclists, MUST stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red and should avoid blocking the way or encroaching on the marked area at other times, e.g. if the junction ahead is blocked. If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you MUST stop at the second white line, even if your vehicle is in the marked area. Allow cyclists time and space to move off when the green signal shows.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10, 36(1) & 43(2)
Perhaps biker boy should re-read his highway code? (his stopping beyond the ASL can get him a £50 fine)
Your constant referral to the cyclist as 'biker boy' suggests an anti-cyclist stance from the start.
Your ability to defend the actions of a clearly incompetent driver and apportion blame to the cyclist second that stance.
Your ability to defend the actions of a clearly incompetent driver and apportion blame to the cyclist second that stance.
You calling the old boy "clearly incompetent" seems to suggest some sort of 'ageist' attitude - do you hate all elderly drivers?
You could argue that 'the cyclist' is clearly incompetent given his actions.
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The cyclist is perhaps unwise to put himself anywhere near that van but the driver is in a whole different league.
To recap. He blocks a bus and sits there with a look of uncomprehending witlessness. Eventually he moves back so the bus can get through. Then he immediately pulls forward again into a cyclist directly in his line of sight, into a red light at a pedestrian crossing and into another bloody big bus.
I don't care what age he is. He needs his licence taking off him.
