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It's hardly suprising giving the super low profit margin for the petrol stations, and the people delivering to petrol stations due to the government putting such a huge levy on it.
Shell tanker drivers
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Government advise to keep our vehicles full of fuel - and whose fault is it that we can't afford to fill our tanks?
Interesting scenario building, everyone rush out & panic buy, reserves run out, emergency deliveries brought in - which for some really strange reason will force prices to be pushed up and the new, high, prices will remain.
Interesting scenario building, everyone rush out & panic buy, reserves run out, emergency deliveries brought in - which for some really strange reason will force prices to be pushed up and the new, high, prices will remain.
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I know funny isn't it? .
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was no queue when i went into asda, but on way out of asda there was a big queue, because divs wouldnt pick a pump and queue at it but decided to wait in the entrance to see what queue went first :nutter:
found out on the news that there was a fight there, police had to go a break it up, so i probably arrived just after it reopened, they be why there was no queue.
Everyone best start panic buying easter eggs, there wont be no fuel left at this rate for egg deliveries
I'm supposed to be going up to the lakes next week - so if I cancel, the insurance has to pay out (hopefully, although I suspect they'll have some hidden clause to cover their backs), but then we all lose out when insurance companies increase their premiums to cover their losses.
And tanker drivers will all come back and have to work loads of overtime at 1.5 or 2x pay to get all the stations fuelled up.
Meanwhile, cost of everything on the shelves has risen to cover the expenses of shipping - so we all lose out again.
If this is really about tanker drivers being pushed to load/offload faster than permissible, why aren't H&S jumping up and down? why even go on strike, simply work to rule - they can't sack you for driving within the speed limits (your tacho evidence) and nor can they sack you for pumping fuel at the recommended flow rates. This would be far more effective than going on strike.
By mid afternoon, 3 local forecourts had sold out of fuel
And tanker drivers will all come back and have to work loads of overtime at 1.5 or 2x pay to get all the stations fuelled up.
Meanwhile, cost of everything on the shelves has risen to cover the expenses of shipping - so we all lose out again.
If this is really about tanker drivers being pushed to load/offload faster than permissible, why aren't H&S jumping up and down? why even go on strike, simply work to rule - they can't sack you for driving within the speed limits (your tacho evidence) and nor can they sack you for pumping fuel at the recommended flow rates. This would be far more effective than going on strike.
By mid afternoon, 3 local forecourts had sold out of fuel
how long have petrol tankers been pumping it out? used to be illegal and was gravity fed
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so basically its because they dont want a new contract...??
when my old employer gave me a change of contract i had 2 options sign it or GTFO
Prime example, Curries of Dumfries is now Curries European. The wagons are usually registered in places like Lithuania, Poland and the Netherlands; the drivers also come from those countries.
I think the point is being missed here, it's not just that some on lesser incomes are jealous of tanker drivers, but more a case of that almost everyone in the country is experiencing a pay freeze, and not only are tanker drivers looking for a pay rise (as is their right) but they are making the others suffer along the way. This really does smack of '70s style cynical, selfish union bullying.
Police Officers die very rarely. PC Ian Terry was killed in a firearms accident during training in Manchester and PC David Rathband committed suicide after being blinded by Raoul Moat last year. I don't know how many tanker drivers have died on the M62, but if we go back a few decades two Cops were shot dead by the IRA at a service area. Not many firefighters die nowadays, but I'll wager the number is a lot higher than for tankermen.
A&E staff are assaulted almost daily and some of them feel incapable of going back to work in Casualty. Not sure how many drivers with BP, Shell or Esso are beaten up.
As for being killed in an explosion, I think soldiers might come a bit higher up the pecking order in that particular category.
Mmm, That kind of knocks the hazardous occupation argument into a cocked hat.
You can bore me with tacho regs if you like. I'm a bit out of touch nowadays but I was under the impression that the European Working Time Directive limits employees to 48 hours a week. I appreciate that you can work more hours one week and then compensate the next but this reply implies that tanker drivers work 55 hours a week every week. If you ask me how many hours a week I work then I would reply that it's 40; maybe 36 one week and 44 the next based on a 5 week shift system, but that's an average of 40. At 55 hours a week wouldn't VOSA want a word.I wont bore you with tachograph rules & regs, but we work around 55 hours per week, this includes days, nights, & rest days too(thats right, its not 30k+ for 39 hours) the figure also contains certain bonuses which aint guaranteed. These salaries are industry standard, offered by the employers(not a figure plucked from the air by the drivers) & I dont see the difficulty you have understanding that we are due a pay rise.(the strike comes after 9 months of negotiations)
& the reason we're paid as much is because we're top class professionals in our field of work...its as simple as that..if other jobs pay less, is that our fault??...Hardly!!
Top class professionals wouldn't put their lives and those of others at risk while driving 5,000 gallons plus of highly flammable liquid around if they were tired.....would they?
then people should fight to keep decent jobs decent so soldiers can take them up when they are demobbed
a lot of tanker drivers are ex army
im a tosser tory allow me to gangle my keys. oh you missed education. but that may have been labor
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Funny how they initiate a panic buy right at the end of a tax year lol.
Did you know one of the senior Tory party members owns the main manufacturer of Jerry cans?
For driving as im sure you know its 90 hours in two weeks the limit i think, but thats driving, not physically being signed at work
In the above example you might be at work 55 hours a week (if true) maybe but how many of that 55 hours will you have been driving? When you fashion your breaks/rest and when you are working e.g loading unloading etc etc into it the total driving hours surely come down?
In that example above i bet if you actually looked into it deeply the actual hours are within the legal limits despite them appearing illegal
Vosa wouldnt have a problem with it IMO with someone doing 55 hours per week at work every week unless the driving time exceeded the limits
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Aahahahahahahaha brilliant now the government says it will increase tanker driver hours to 11 to allow them to make up for the fuel shortages from the all the panic buying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17564277
I bet the tanker drivers won't mind the overtime :chin:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17564277
I bet the tanker drivers won't mind the overtime :chin:
BBC News: Mr Cameron said it was "absolutely a desperate incident and a terrible thing that has happened to this woman."
He added: "My heart goes out to her and her family."
But he was actually thinking 'thick bitch'
