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By the look of beany_bot's sig it doesn't look like the car is being driven with 'mechanical sympathy'!!

Each to their own i suppose but I won't be running the risk.:nutter:

LOL, thats not my car (sorry) dont have a digital camera at the moment, thats just a similar car from google images!!.

My car i would say gets driven "moderately", mostly i drive it very considerably and sometimes i put my foot down through the gears. Im not worried.
 
Firstly the guys warranty isnt void only the part that is 'tuned' wont be covered under warranty and in this case thats the remap. If Fiat or any other car manufacturer for that matter have evidence that the 'tuned' part caused the problem then the problem isnt covered by warranty.
Secondly if the manufacturer declares that the 'tuned' part caused the problem then the tuner should offer a warranty on the 'tuned' part and if they don't then more fool the person whos has there car 'tuned' by them. Most big tuning companys offer warranty on parts they tune and this includes remaps.

So either the Tuner or Manufacturer pays unless Thirdly the problem can be proved by either or both parties to be caused by the customer through either abuse or neglect .

Steve (moderator for another site)
 
Firstly the guys warranty isnt void only the part that is 'tuned' wont be covered under warranty and in this case thats the remap. If Fiat or any other car manufacturer for that matter have evidence that the 'tuned' part caused the problem then the problem isnt covered by warranty.
Secondly if the manufacturer declares that the 'tuned' part caused the problem then the tuner should offer a warranty on the 'tuned' part and if they don't then more fool the person whos has there car 'tuned' by them. Most big tuning companys offer warranty on parts they tune and this includes remaps.

So either the Tuner or Manufacturer pays unless Thirdly the problem can be proved by either or both parties to be caused by the customer through either abuse or neglect .

Steve (moderator for another site)

Even if that was true Fiat would through you to the tuning company who would throw you to Fiat etc... and both sides would blame the other.

Either way you'd still have the same issue.
 
Firstly the guys warranty isnt void only the part that is 'tuned' wont be covered under warranty and in this case thats the remap. If Fiat or any other car manufacturer for that matter have evidence that the 'tuned' part caused the problem then the problem isnt covered by warranty.
Secondly if the manufacturer declares that the 'tuned' part caused the problem then the tuner should offer a warranty on the 'tuned' part and if they don't then more fool the person whos has there car 'tuned' by them. Most big tuning companys offer warranty on parts they tune and this includes remaps.

So either the Tuner or Manufacturer pays unless Thirdly the problem can be proved by either or both parties to be caused by the customer through either abuse or neglect .

Steve (moderator for another site)
:ROFLMAO: do you even know what a remap is?
 
Why do people argue on forums I'm here to try and help.

Ok the Ecu/emu is made up of hardware and software. The software being the map. With regards to a 'remap' in its most simplist of descriptions the map is read from the car then the software map is modified and then re-written back to the car.

How technical do you want to get about it?

Lets stop being silly and try and help the guy yes?
 
but to help you at least need to know what you are talking about,
in your it business do you warranty all the files you put on some ones PC against corruption?

when you remap or tune a car them a manufacturer can say you have voided the warranty on and part that may fail due to that extra power. but the warranty on the rest of the car wont be affected
 
rptbu - remaped punto turbo blown up was he only on here for one purpose?

no update on situation yet? would be a good idea to get a turbo check up from a specialist before any work is done performance wise imo still isnt putting me off having a go with red-dot or the like
 
but to help you at least need to know what you are talking about,
in your it business do you warranty all the files you put on some ones PC against corruption?

when you remap or tune a car them a manufacturer can say you have voided the warranty on and part that may fail due to that extra power. but the warranty on the rest of the car wont be affected

As I said in my previous post if you re-read it most reputable tuners warranty their work including remaps.

That has nothing in comparison to an It business and the software they provide although you will find it will be covered under contract.
 
Why do you want to argue with me Ive made a clear and concise statement on a subject thats the bane of most enthusiasts lives....warrantys.....

Heres a warranty statement from superchips a reputable tuner.

www.superchips.co.uk/warranty.php

sooooo thread back on track yes?
 
Thing is I can see arguments going on for months between manufacture & chip company as to where the blame lies in the event of a fault while customer takes the bus/train/tram during this time.

Want more power?....buy bigger engine.
 
Why do you want to argue with me Ive made a clear and concise statement on a subject thats the bane of most enthusiasts lives....warrantys.....

Heres a warranty statement from superchips a reputable tuner.

www.superchips.co.uk/warranty.php

sooooo thread back on track yes?

Mechanical or Electrical Breakdown
The sudden and unforeseen failure of a component of the Motor Vehicle directly attributable to the operating or fitting of the Superchip insured hereunder, causing the Motor Vehicle to stop working and therefore requiring repair or replacement before normal operation can be resumed providing the failed component was covered by the Motor Vehicle manufacturers warranty and declined by them due solely to the operating or fitting of the Superchip.


So you have your Mjet with a 30% torque increase and it blows its diff 6 months later. They will just say not their fault.

If your going to increase power beyond standard then have a problem with the drive train then that's probably your fault. Trying to put the blame onto Fiat is wrong.
 
Mechanical or Electrical Breakdown
The sudden and unforeseen failure of a component of the Motor Vehicle directly attributable to the operating or fitting of the Superchip insured hereunder, causing the Motor Vehicle to stop working and therefore requiring repair or replacement before normal operation can be resumed providing the failed component was covered by the Motor Vehicle manufacturers warranty and declined by them due solely to the operating or fitting of the Superchip.


So you have your Mjet with a 30% torque increase and it blows its diff 6 months later. They will just say not their fault.

If your going to increase power beyond standard then have a problem with the drive train then that's probably your fault. Trying to put the blame onto Fiat is wrong.


Got to admit I agree totally with this post,whenever I have inquired about remaps the response to "What happens if........" is usually met with the same response ie "you pay your money and take your chance", T sums it up when he said "want more power buy a bigger engine".
 
Firstly the guys warranty isnt void only the part that is 'tuned' wont be covered under warranty and in this case thats the remap. If Fiat or any other car manufacturer for that matter have evidence that the 'tuned' part caused the problem then the problem isnt covered by warranty.
Secondly if the manufacturer declares that the 'tuned' part caused the problem then the tuner should offer a warranty on the 'tuned' part and if they don't then more fool the person whos has there car 'tuned' by them. Most big tuning companys offer warranty on parts they tune and this includes remaps.

So either the Tuner or Manufacturer pays unless Thirdly the problem can be proved by either or both parties to be caused by the customer through either abuse or neglect .

Steve (moderator for another site)


Excuse me.....but have you actually read the T&Cs of the Fiat Warranty?

This is what it says in my handbook......let me remind you of a few points.......

"The warranty will not apply to any modification, addition, extension or alteration to the original ex-factory specification of the vehicle we whether or not such is approved or recomended by Fiat in respect of the following....

Defects arising in the modification itself.

Defects which in the opinion of Fiat were caused by the modification

No modification. addition, extension, or alteration should be made to the original ex-factory specification where this will affect the performance, handling or general safety of the vehicle".

What this says to me is......... if I remap and my engine blows-up its tough-sh**, even IF the remap didnt cause it. BECAUSE I went against the T&Cs and carried out a modification that affects performance............ and there is no arguement in it.

As for the Remap company, they will provide a gaurantee on there product, but do you really expect them to gaurantee someones elses product ie: the engine??? :D
 
Why do you want to argue with me Ive made a clear and concise statement on a subject thats the bane of most enthusiasts lives....warrantys.....

Heres a warranty statement from superchips a reputable tuner.

www.superchips.co.uk/warranty.php

sooooo thread back on track yes?

"by reason of failure of the Superchip fitted" what about if its dude to normal operating of this chip?
 
"General Exclusions
Mechanical or Electrical Breakdown resulting from:

Improper use/application or abuse;"

Thats fairly vague isnt it. How do you quantify any of that?

I guess what SteveP69 means is, if I buy a pc from him, get my nephew to overclock it, fit water cooling, leds everywhere, overclock it some more, fit pirate software, etc. Then if that unit doesnt work perfectly for his warranty period he will warrant that pc.

Please advise us all of your company Steve and we will all buy a pc from you.

Quite unbelievable:bang:
 
I guess what SteveP69 means is, if I buy a pc from him, get my nephew to overclock it, fit water cooling, leds everywhere, overclock it some more, fit pirate software, etc. Then if that unit doesnt work perfectly for his warranty period he will warrant that pc.

will we get a loan pc and compo for loss of any work that was lost when the pc died too? :devil:
 
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