Panda (Classic) Project Fallout

[pandamaniac]

Looks like a tow bar for an army 30 tonne 8 wheeler to me.
Couldn't you find any thicker steel, or is it to stop the body flexing on deep ruts?
Dave

 

[kolza]

1242cc 8v is definately to small engine to roll car faster than 40mph.
Are you close to 1 ton now John?

You need more cc or ideally more Nm.

 

[pandamaniac]

Kolza.
What do you think to increase power.
Punto turbo?
Or
Nitrous oxide?

I have a feeling John is the next Damian Hirst
Dave

 

[kolza]

Kolza.
What do you think to increase power.
Punto turbo?
Or
Nitrous oxide?

I have a feeling John is the next Damian Hirst
Dave

I would say more like 1.7D isuzu n/a diesel of old cavalier.

 

[pandamaniac]

No, I reckon Dodge Viper 10cylinder, but he will need a Ford Capri bonnet

 

[Dragon Man]

Direct injection Diesel Power.

if i could it would be a fully waterproofed >1.6L modern common rail diesel engine with VG turbo and blanked off EGR.

sadly such engines are all fly by wire involving so many electronics now its almost impossible to actually transplant such an engine to a older car.

if i could do my own remapping (just so i can map out the things a panda wont support like traction control) i would give it a damn good go if i had a chance to buy a rear or side crash damaged modern diesel cheap.


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anyway, this is what i ended with.. well till i ran out of box and welding wire.



replace that flat bar with yet more box section.

i still need to drill the holes out bigger and finish doing the welding, but overall its looking pretty beefy. its way over rated for the car but will be a nice thing to mount stuff on to. (such as a pump up aerial mast..) ahem i didnt say anything.

cq cq...

 

[Bartpanda]

aerial mast..)

I knew it! smaller portable version of 10MV antena, Duga radar vol2!

John's soviet holiday dacha

 

[Dragon Man]

could just picture it parked up around Prypiat great picture!

anyway i managed to get some more box, mig wire and some larger tips (i went for 1.2mm mig wire for welding the big stuff)

the result is this:
one of the best welds i have ever done in my life!


so yes this is going to be a multi use tow bar, used for towing and mounting things to.

this is how it ended up:





and a bit of paint.. yellow is what i have lots of so its now yellow!





i know.. i know.. i have not drilled any holes in it yet!! oops! oh well, i need to get it mounted to the car first so i can get it all marked up where the holes need to go. i am going to make little tubes that will sit inside the chassis of the car (maybe welded in!) so i dont crush the box section of the chassis when i tighten the bolts up.
plenty of runs in the paint too.. heh oh well. at the time of the picture the back room of the garage was about 29.c! the wood burner just works that well..

i also need a drill bit big enough to drill through the big plate, that is the same size as tow bar hitch bolts.. sadly i do not have one that big! i need to get the thread size of the bolts i have, then get a drill bit a little bit bigger so i can finally get the hitch bolted to the plate.

before you ask, yeah.. its heavy.. i think the 1.2 engine will be just enough to keep it at the same speed as the 999cc!

 

[Bartpanda]

That bar looks heavy

Anoter few from John's free time leisures

 

[northernchap]

Stalker, remember to watch out for Burer and Pseudogiants!

 

[Dragon Man]

some fantastic pictures there Bartpanda awesome stuff!
that last one is pretty good.. i am trying to fish for those huge radioactive catfish

yeah the STALKER games are awesome! same as the Metro games

 

[Dragon Man]

ahh so, it has come the time where Talon's MOT and Insurance has ran out (early next month).

So Fallout. i want him on the road and give Talon a rest. for a year..

now i know i have a few things to do on Fallout before i take him to the MOT tester. mostly it is just cosmetic issues but i do need to tape up some wires here and there (for CB and other things that i have not got in the car yet) and i do need to do a bit of welding on the drivers door skin as it has rotted rather a lot since last summer.

i also need to get the indicators for the front fixed on.
as a tribute to the Land Rover Defender, i bought some indicators from one! (well they were new complete units!)
i made some brackets and painted them Yellow (i have so much yellow paint..) and they will be mounted to the bull bar the same way i fixed the spot lights to Talon. nice and simple!





then it will just be as simple as sticking a jerry can of fuel in it, getting it insured.. (guhh.. this is going to be fun) and drive it to the testing place!

now to ring around insurance brokers for modified vehicles and see what comes up!

 

[Dragon Man]

after a night of paint drying, today i have fitted and wired in the indicators



And a bit of a video to go with it..

 

[Didge3]

John, I think its great that you're planning on getting Fallout on the road and I know you are aware that insurance is probably going to be a bit of a pain. I'm not really sure about the cosmetic changes you've made and how or if you need to declare those but as for the engine change I must recommend Admiral, I'm 21 with 3 years NCB and when I had Char' my insurance with declared lowering springs, alloys, front seats from a Seicento and the side stripes my insurance was £360, I called them about 5 months into that year of insurance asking if I were to change the engine (specifically to a 1.2 16v from a mk1 Punto) what the price would be and they surprisingly only wanted an extra £60 which I thought was a bargain for more than doubling the power.
So take what you will from that but if you struggle with the insurance you might be surprised what Admiral can offer

 

[Dragon Man]

well i have some good news!

the Fallout project is insured! (on the 22nd, monday)

i rang up Adrian Flux. after a mammoth list of every modified part on the car was reeled off they found me a quote for £346.99 (£200 excess not happy about it as i normally have it 0 but i guess its what it is). insane.

i am only covered third party fire and theft, however i am covered to drive other vehicles. and vehicles that do not belong to anyone i live with (like my granddads car) will be covered fully comp ?? but anyone's car i do live with (like my mums and brothers) would only be covered third party.

its crazy, but its insured now.

i have a little work to do, but i will be ringing up the MOT place soon to get it booked in.

 

[Dragon Man]

MOT booked for tomorrow at 1PM. wish i could video the look on the testers face

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Wish i could video the look on the testers face

You're not the only one!

 

[Dragon Man]

 

[kolza]

Still no input on MOT.gov.uk


Let the Panda force be with you John.

 

[kolza]

Not too bad actually! Two days and should be sorted.


Vehicle make FIAT PANDA 4X4
Date first used 28 February 1990


Fuel type Petrol


Colour Grey



MOT history of this vehicle

• Test date 26 February 2016
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 126,639 miles
• MOT test number 2362 2964 8473
• Reason(s) for failure
  offside Headlamp aim too high (1.8)
  nearside Headlamp aim too low (1.8)
  offside front Tie bar/rod rubber bush deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)
  offside rear Body has a sharp edge caused by corrosion outer arch (6.1.C.1)
  Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded o/s/f inner sill holed near jacking point (2.4.A.3)
  
  
• Advisory notice item(s)
  oil leak
  Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2)
  slight play to o/s/f inner rack
  slight play to n/s/f inner rack
  offside front Front wheel bearing has slight play (2.5.A.3c)
  offside rear Rear wheel bearing has slight play (2.6.2)
  offside front Front suspension ball joint dust cover deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt (2.4.G.2)