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500 (Classic) My 1971 Fiat 500 rebuild...

Introduction

Here is the start of my Fiat 500 rebuild thread. I bought the 500 in Italy in April and it arrived on May 2nd. It's a 1971 Fiat 500L...
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Within 5 minutes of it being on the driveway, the Giannini sunshade sticker was no more :) :)

The plan was to get it through an MOT ASAP, registration sent off and then I could drive whilst rebuilding it. Like most people on here, I'm doing this on evenings and weekends, so it's handy to be able have a roadworthy vehicle when you need to test something out.

Unfortunately, that didn't work as one of the first things I did was to jack it up and check out the front kingpins. There was tons of movement :( and a number of the bushes were perished, so I took the decision to redo all of the suspension for the MOT. This was on the plan anyway, along with fitting front discs brakes too, so I decided to do everything at the same time as it made sense, even if it would take longer.

So the stripping started. Mostly no problem, but the LHS front spring bush had fused to the bolt. Easily fixed with 1mm cutting disc :). Not so easy was the fused bush and bolt on the LHS rear swing arm inside pivot point. I could only cut through half of the bolt with the cutting disc, so the hacksaws were used for rest. I enjoyed that! :rolleyes:

The good news was I could start putting things back on...
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New kingpins with two grease nipples.

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New front discs that allow you to still use the original PCD of 4x190. The first brake line I tried to undo stripped the corners, so I ordered a new brake line kit along with a new master cylinder.

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All of the track rod end rubbers were perished and most of them had too much movement, so I decide to replace all of them. The steering box was leaking, so this was stripped and rebuilt with new gaskets and seals.

Naturally, I changed the brake pipe, fixed the horn, and tidied up the wiring while I was there. Seeing as I was doing all of this, it seemed like a good idea to tidy up under the hood too. The 500 needed a new battery, and previously the old one was simply wedged in against the front panel with a block of polystyrene :rolleyes: so this was sorted aswell. Although, I can't believe how long it took me to just secure battery...
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The rear took longer a lot longer than the front, mainly due to cleaning, stripping and painting the swing arms, hubs etc...
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All was going back together well, and I found the best way to get the swing arms back in with all of the spacers in the correct place was to do the inside pivot point first...

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Just one issue, in my rush to order all of the parts I ordered the wrong rear brake cylinders. I ordered the first one listed here...
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It turns out that I misread the product description, and due to formatting it actually reads Fiat 500 Giardiniera/...
not
Fiat 500
Giardiniera/....

So I have a rear cylinder that fits the backing plate, but is too wide and so the pistons stop the pads coming in enough for you to fit the drum...
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Doh!! So I need to order some new cylinders of the correct size, so that I can finish up and get it MOT'd before I can finish rest of rebuild.

It seems like it's taking an age, but I suppose it's not too bad for a month in.

cheers, Steve :)
Steve
what is the rubber seal you've fitted around the front boot lip on the wings and front panel - it looks very neat.
Andrew
 
Steve
what is the rubber seal you've fitted around the front boot lip on the wings and front panel - it looks very neat.
Andrew

Hello Andrew

It's Woolies standard edge trim in black. I also used it on the roof opening, that you can see in this pic...

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Link here...
http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/p-1288-pvc-edge-trim-black.aspx

If you need to get some new chrome strip for the roof sills, I'd also recommend getting some of their self adhesive chrome edge trim, as it's better than those supplied by the fiat part places...

http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/p-1579-self-adhesive-chrome-edge.aspx

cheers, Steve
 
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful shots and what a nice looking car you got!

Looking great Steve - you must be very proud of your work!

Thanks for the kind comments

Yes Gareth, it was lots of fun doing all of the work. A bit frustrating at times, especially with some of the new parts, but all worthwhile in the end. :) :)

cheers, Steve
 
Thanks for the kind comments

Yes Gareth, it was lots of fun doing all of the work. A bit frustrating at times, especially with some of the new parts, but all worthwhile in the end. :) :)

cheers, Steve
great work.. just started the teardown of my 71. just hope putting it back together goes well. Not too much information on these cars in the States.
 
wow, just wow. Just read through the thread and thats a mighty fine 500 you have sir.. Very well done indeed, i doft my hat to you sir. Only thing i don't really like is the clear repeaters on the front - looks strange against the orange wing repeaters but its such a little thing and easily changed...
 
wow, just wow. Just read through the thread and thats a mighty fine 500 you have sir.. Very well done indeed, i doft my hat to you sir. Only thing i don't really like is the clear repeaters on the front - looks strange against the orange wing repeaters but its such a little thing and easily changed...

I think they are white as the Italian cars used those front indicators as side lights as well as indicators??????? The UK cars had the side lights in the headlamps.

I haven't a clue how the Italian cars indicators work, I assume it is a double filament bulb??? Do they flash white then????

Tony
 
interesting... i'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to the classic fiats tbh. If they use them as side lights i presume it has 2 bulbs... one orange one normal? I guess most of them are like that and I have just not noticed before - perhaps its just more obvious to me cause its a white car. :confused:
 
In Australia we have the double filament white lights on all of the old Fiats, (and other old cars) so it was common to see white lights flashing at the front with the light just getting brighter on flash a bit like brake lights over tail lights.
 
great work.. just started the teardown of my 71. just hope putting it back together goes well. Not too much information on these cars in the States.
Thanks, there's a workshop manual in PDF version available, and I bought a Haynes manual as a reference guide. Those along with the expert advice given on this forum was all I needed, so hopefully you should be ok. Good luck with the build :)

wow, just wow. Just read through the thread and thats a mighty fine 500 you have sir.. Very well done indeed, i doft my hat to you sir. Only thing i don't really like is the clear repeaters on the front - looks strange against the orange wing repeaters but its such a little thing and easily changed...

Thanks for the kind comments. As per the replies, the clear indicators were as it left the factory. The RHD headlamps I fitted have side lights, so I just re-wired to use these as the sidelight, and the indicators now have Amber Led's in. Another easy option in this type of configuration, would be to paint the original bulb Amber.

cheers, Steve
 
The RHD headlamps I fitted have side lights, so I just re-wired to use these as the sidelight, and the indicators now have Amber Led's in. Another easy option in this type of configuration, would be to paint the original bulb Amber.

cheers, Steve

:):):) I know what it is with you guys...you just love that authentic Italian-ness of the white lenses (and the titchy number-plates) Why make it hard for yourselves? The amber lenses are far prettier and more effective.
And as fewer cars were fitted with them from new, they are actually a rarer and more distinctive feature.:):)

BRA_7995 by Peter Thompson, on Flickr
 
Hi Steve I will resurrect your thread as I have a question regarding the electronic ignition with the flywheel sensor we both have.

I assume from your pictures that there is no need to fit a ballast resistor with this setup? Because effectively you would need to break into the pre made wiring loom that comes with the control unit, if you needed to. As the + input into the coil is just a switched voltage from the ignition switch and the other - input comes from the control unit to fire the coil.

The reason I ask because I posted on another thread that the dry coils need a ballast resistor, which I have always understood to be the case. I am assuming this is if you have the setup pre ours where you have a twin coil, a distributor with points and no cap?

Tony
 
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