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Technical Excessive Inner Front Tyre Wear

Re: Tyre wear

Does you steering creak alot when turning? Its more than likley it could be the below parts that need replacing, Its due to the rubber wearing and not sitting correctly on top of the supension and this will put the tracking out. I was quoted about £100.00 to replace them.
 

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Re: Tyre wear

:idea: Join the club!! had trouble with n/s/r tyre wear on my 51 plate Stilo Jtd on outer edge, turned out after four wheel alignment check that n/s/r tyre toeing in too much, not wanting to have expensive rear axle fitted cos Fiat welded it together wrongly, put shim washer between axle and stub axle on front mounting bolts, Problem sorted and cheaply, Fiat garage not interested unless extracting large sums of money off you!(y)
 
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Sid said:
:idea: Join the club!! had trouble with n/s/r tyre wear on my 51 plate Stilo Jtd on outer edge, turned out after four wheel alignment check that n/s/r tyre toeing in too much, not wanting to have expensive rear axle fitted cos Fiat welded it together wrongly, put shim washer between axle and stub axle on front mounting bolts, Problem sorted and cheaply, Fiat garage not interested unless extracting large sums of money off you!(y)
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Outer edge of my rears & me dads previous Stilo's (both 1.6 16v's) seem to have worn 1.5 - 2.0 mm faster than rest of the tyre. Rear track is officially non adjustable, your comments about adding shim washers may be a cheap painless fix v's FIAT's multitude of complex non solutions to the problem. Am interested how you get on with tyre wear post shimming. Me, I was convinced that increased track would stop the rear tyres tucking under when cornering at speed and wearing the tyres so have gone for Coupe wheels with a greater offset and 1200 odd miles on, its looking good! :)
 
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:) Did shim modification in about five months ago and done quite a few motorway miles as well as usuall driving about and all seems fine so far, put Stilo Abarth 16" wheels on around same time, so tyres were secondhand as they came with wheels....look to be wearing Ok at moment, suppose real test will be when it gets new ones on as this is when first noticed problem. but looks like its fixed at moment:D
 
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Noticed a fair bit of feathering on the n/s/r :( so took the Stilo in for a 4 wheel alignment check today.

Rear Camber & Toe are both within spec (no nasty surprises there then (y) ) so must be down to driving style.

Applying power through the corner generates a high load on the rear torsion beam (which gives the Stilo it's great stability) so I think the rear tyre wear is something I'm going to have to live with. The original VW Golf & Scirocco GTi used a similar suspension set-up and could also suffer rear tyre wear for the same reason.

As regards the front I was told the Camber was OK but the Toe in was way out :eek: Being a little sceptical I asked to see the figures. It transpired that the total Toe in was well within tolerance (how the parallel the front wheels are to each other). In effect they wanted to charge me £30 so that I could drive away with my Steering wheel off centre :mad:

As the Stilo tracks perfectly then the answer was a simple one - NO WAY ARE YOU GOING TO ADJUST IT :p

I think many of us know the experience if taking your car to be adjusted, with high expectations, only to find you're not happy with it afterwards. Looks like I've just avoided that situation.
 
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Yes a lot of the tyre "specialists" seem to have very little idea. I mean how many actually check the suspension/ steering for wear BEFORE they advise you on what they see as tracking problems. What's the point of adjusting tracking to less than a degree when the track rod end is gone and the wheel is flapping about!

As i've said before, i always do my own tracking by eye and it's very accurate. I've had cars returning from having their tracking "done" where the steering wheel isn't straight any more or where the tyres are noticeably burning off straight after a tracking job so i don't use "professionals" for that any more. My methods have proved more reliable

i find the Stilo noticably follows the camber of the road, obviously drifting left when on UK roads but when I went to France, (obviously driving on the other side, when i can remember) then drifting to the right. On the crown of the road then it is dead straight. I put this down to the fluid bearings on the rear suspension because i haven't had those before but that's just a guess. Car just went through it's MOT and I specifically asked about the rear bearings play and they were fine so it's a Stilo trait I guess
 
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As you all know I have suffered a broken spring on the near side front I have noticed that the tyre has a degree of feathering on the inside I am wondering if this is down to the broken spring as I dont know how long I was driving around with it [Any comments guys] I suppose I should get the car retracked when the leg is back on ?
 
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You had a chunk of spring rubbing against the tyre didn't you Phil? I can't imagine you or anyone driving around very far without noticing that. So it's difficult to know whether it affected your tyre wear or not

Definitely get the tracking done after the job, it only takes a small amount of misalignment to eat through £100 worth of tyre
 
Re: Tyre wear

Deckchair5 said:
You had a chunk of spring rubbing against the tyre didn't you Phil? I can't imagine you or anyone driving around very far without noticing that. So it's difficult to know whether it affected your tyre wear or not

Definitely get the tracking done after the job, it only takes a small amount of misalignment to eat through £100 worth of tyre
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The spring was rubbing after I tryed to compress and reseat it in situe the spring moved and wound its self down around the strut so the trusty angle grinder was given an airing to chop off the section of spring that was touching the tyre :eek: thinking of replacing the top bearing also while I'm at it but the leg is being assembled on monday morning so where can I get a top strut bearing besides Fiat as they didt have them in stock any ideas guys motor factors or not ?
 
Heavey Front Tyre Wear On In Side

Hi all

I have had my Stilo JTD Dynamic 52 for just over a year in that time i have had 2 new front springs and 2 new lower suspension arms. However this is the best car i have had but it chews through front tyres like there going out of business, replaced the 1 month ago and now they are ruined on the inside, i have had it all lazer tracked 4 times since replacement. Its going into fiat for them to check this week. Can anyone help me with this or point me in the right direction of the cure to this problem.

Many Thanks

NUTZ STILO
 
Re: Heavey Front Tyre Wear On In Side

You need to get a 2nd opinion on the 4 wheel alignment. Are you sure they're using the correct figures? Post the results if you're not sure.

All Stilos wear inside on front and outside on rear. Not such a major issue as long as you swap back/front periodically.
 
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Yes, seek out correct tracking first. There was talk of the wrong figures being given for Stilos in the early days and maybe they're using those to align your wheels. I don't know the actual figures but whatever figures they use then it's less than 1 degree

I have to admit i can't trust the wheel "specialists" after some bad experiences so i do my own tracking by eye. Never failed me yet.
(How did people manage before lasers? Very well actually)

I have 15k on the front tyres now and they're running down nice and even, just the way they should do

There can be other issues like track rod ends worn and suspension wear causing misalignment but front end up and waggle wheels to check for wear first and then on to tracking are the first steps

If they just do tracking without replacing your tyres then it will feel odd with a lack of grip and very likely drift off course. If you can, replace the tyres at the same time so you start afresh.

Just to be different, my front tyres don't wear on the inside:D
 
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Re: Tyres shat after 6K

Let your fingers do the walking ;) by the sound of it you need the wheel alignment very badly and I wouldn't even both with the conventional tracking Boz go laser its the best and only way for the stilo (y)
 
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PNL said:
Let your fingers do the walking ;) by the sound of it you need the wheel alignment very badly and I wouldn't even both with the conventional tracking Boz go laser its the best and only way for the stilo (y)
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:yeahthat:

Some places charge as little as £13 for the check alone (y)

Don't forget to post up results if you want a 2nd opinion.
 
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Worth mentioning that tracking doesn't just suddenly go bad for no reason. If it was good to start with then it's a good idea to check for wear in suspension or steering. A worn track rod end for instance (and pretty common on Stilos) would mean a complete waste of dosh on laser tracking and you'd need to do it all over again afterwards.

Most steering places don't seem to bother to check what caused the tracking to go out in the first place, just doing what the customer asked for and no more, I suppose.
 
Re: Tyres shat after 6K

dave said:
its not that much i had a 4 wheel alinement check ant tracking set at a slight tow in (factory is parrell) and 1 front camber adjusted, cost about £35.

are you running standard size wheels? if not dont forget to increse tyre presure by 2psi per inch bigger
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Yep, standard 17's from the factory. Did lower though about 8 months ago.
 
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