General Ducato 3.0 multijet 160 comformatic fix selespeed magnetti

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General Ducato 3.0 multijet 160 comformatic fix selespeed magnetti

Ok so here’s a video showing how easy it is to get no gears available and a fix
This today was the cheap brake switch again so watch this video I show how misleading the brake switch can be which in return no gears will be available
 
I also took some live readings
 

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If anyone is having issues and getting code p0805 or p0942 p2908 it’s open circuit which is related to my post on the no gears available
If you have a ducato from 06-11 check this harness out be fast tho guys because these sell FAST I couldn’t get one at all not even from Italy you now have to buy the complete selespeed for a second hand one a grand
This is worth having a spare
Burnt out contacts or corrosion happen lots on x250 x290

My contact on evo0 was broken in half which is solenoid for the clutch it was broke and shorting out I had to repair mine and finding the parts and part numbers yes was cheap but hard work and now another area on the clutch sensor plug had corrosion

It’s the scuttle issues some damage was done all previous owners leaving me to sort it for good
I now have new front end no leaks at all
Today I just purchased the harness myself to start with all new contacts etc which I will fill back of plugs with contact gel

Get one of these first 👍
Here’s what I would do before spending 3k i would change the selespeed harness first then test
sensors for clutch and gearbox depending how old the van even change them it’s cheaper then diving into clutch money
Drain fluids for clutch and transmission bleeding then use multiecuscan and carry out reset statistics data then clutch drain which will get out any air
Then carry out the clutch calibration

My information on YouTube has helped out 7 people to date and hope many drop on the posts and it helps you

On your harness you will have a paper slip with part number check that
Harness I posted fits over 15 different part number
  • : Fiat 55256469, 55211826, 55236178, 55240095, 55269285, 55272960, 55276820, 55277168, 55283532, 46338317, 55222323, 6000631976, Fiat 71749956
 

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I will continue to post everything on this thread so it’s in one place then others with these issues can study this one place because I understand how frustrating this is and takes months looking into possible solutions
 
In multiecuscan go parameters and click on what I show here this is to test clutch In next image read values on what the index is for a new fitted clutch 2000 to 3000 or a worn clutch statistics will show degraded index of 10000 to 12000
Read your own values first and see your clutch index
this image which is from my test clutch degradation was 4227 which is not worn
 

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Also very important and very first thing to check before anything is gearbox to chassis earth strap
Battery to chassis strsp
Clean starter motor and alternator earth & positive connection
Then carry out tests on
 

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I have a little bit of new information to add to this forum for anyone looking for selespeed issues
Check live data on throttle pedal position on tick over
Because if not reading correctly it thinks the engine is to fast then will not select gears and you will get no gears available
 
All last week I had the privilege to chat to a gearbox specialist for the selespeed which gave me so much information on this robot
So we have a van service on a manual van oils etc
We also need a service every year to 2 on the robot
Seals filter etc
I have seen on many posts these fault codes
P0856 - VDC messages (from CAN)
P0703 - Service brake switch (from CAN)
P0805 - Clutch sensor
P0942 - Hydraulic circuit pressure
P2908 - Clutch sub-system
Especially p2908 and p0856
Which he tells me 95% of the time this is down to concentric slave in the box will be getting stuck which does throw codes above the most

First thing to check before anything do make sure harness has full continuity

Then throttle position on tick over live data has if not reading correctly thinks engine to fast and will not select gear

Next check evo0 and evo1 solenoid and hydraulic pressure

A great tip is to remove the harness plug one at a time and look on data for codes and what comes up until you get to the sensor or solenoid that’s the issue

Brake switch and brake lights even indicators clean all contacts check fuses

Remove all earth straps clean area to bright metal and buy new strap especially gearbox try get a good 35mm one braided copper no lugs just part a hole for the bolts even double up strap

Check live data your battery volts has for the selespeed it hates low volts mine didn’t like anything below 12v a new battery 110ah helped

We have 3 sensors on the selespeed test these and just look at live data on all mentioned if nothing works clutch and slave time
I’ve noticed it can throw many many different codes up when clutch issues

My issue at the moment is at rest
However I have had a quote for clutch and slave just incase
So one more issue it will be changed I am at 80k miles now and apparently the selespeed is good to 80 to 100k then issues start if not regular service
 
Ok here’s more to add to my now finished project and finally finished
Here’s the codes that I faced this month
P0856 - VDC messages (from CAN)
P0703 - Service brake switch (from CAN)
P0805 - Clutch sensor
P0942 - Hydraulic circuit pressure
P2908 - Clutch sub-system
So first I changed the brake switch that in return got rid of po703
I drained the transmission fluid from large reservoir and filled half way with cs speed

I then bled the clutch dot 4 and used new fluid and bled the system in multiecuscan
Don’t forgot to depressurise first
I changed gear box oil put back in 3.0 litres
Which after all this I was left with 2 codes
Being po856 po805
So then my idea was to start removing the selespeed harness from each sensor and plug to see what code was thrown that way ruling out each has I go
To which I got to the master slave cylinder clutch position sensor once removed I got no code at all
So I had remove the good looking bracket that holds the reservoir tank on the robot to get to this sensor 10 min job once headlight and top of filter and fuse box off
So I removed the sensor inspected it and I had a broken contact on the 3rd pin it was bent and cracked
Again causing short circuit
Changed for new put all back together both codes was gone didn’t have to clear them

Then in multiecuscan I did delete statistical data then carried out clutch drain 3 times
Then last the end of line calibration which does actually do everything including calibration of sensors once new fitted

That’s it job complete no more issues
Gear box said calibration ok 👌
Was very very smooth no noises even when selecting gear I had to watch the dash to see it moving to first because had no sound 😂
Drives brilliant so I’m extremely happy I did all the extra work and full service on the selespeed . Because I’m in 80k miles now I will change the actuator oil tank and seals giving that extra protection for future then every year I will change and bleed clutch fluid and 2 years transmission
Got to keep on top of a service with a comfortmatic

Love the gearbox these are the first issues I’ve faced with a comfortmatic and both times in 2022 and now was wiring shorts and sensors
First things to check anyone dropping on this thread. Remove selespeed harness clean all contacts
Check gear sensor , clutch sensor , and the 4 plugs on the rear of the gearbox bang in front of under floor battery tray you have Evo0 , Evo1 Evo2 Evo3 always check Evo1 plug
Change clutch dot 4
But it’s shite about seals dissolve to make it dark or black just go on every 2 year max
When they build this selespeed these use the electrical contact greese for seals etc and once it mixes with dot4 it changes colour of it that’s all after so long
Next check brake switch and rev throttle position has if to fast that causing issue when selects gear
Check brake bulbs
Check gear to chassis strap or fit 2
98% of problems are sensors and wiring
If these don’t work it’s the slave or clutch bearing
While box off fit full clutch kit
Good luck that’s the last to add to this thread
Some videos coming
 
So I had remove the good looking bracket that holds the reservoir tank on the robot to get to this sensor 10 min job once headlight and top of filter and fuse box off
So I removed the sensor inspected it and I had a broken contact on the 3rd pin it was bent and cracked
Again causing short circuit
Changed for new put all back together both codes was gone didn’t have to clear them


Drives brilliant so I’m extremely happy I did all the extra work and full service on the selespeed . Because I’m in 80k miles now I will change the actuator oil tank and seals giving that extra protection for future then every year I will change and bleed clutch fluid and 2 years transmission
Got to keep on top of a service with a comfortmatic
Good to hear that you have got it sorted out now, well done! Any idea about what might have caused the contact pin to bend?
"Change the actuator oil tank": Do you mean the bulb shaped pressure accumulator or the rectangular fluid container? The first case sounds logical but I don't understand the latter.
 
Good to hear that you have got it sorted out now, well done! Any idea about what might have caused the contact pin to bend?
"Change the actuator oil tank": Do you mean the bulb shaped pressure accumulator or the rectangular fluid container? The first case sounds logical but I don't understand the latter.
Sorry yes I meant to put accumulator mate and no idea on why
But the pin in my harness did the same to Evo1 last year that pin had snapped
Well…. Cracked so was bending and moving
 
Thanks for posting this. After the festivities we could post our values and compare....
Yes sure can I just want to mention someone who helped me more then fiat could
He only works on selespeed gearbox he has a YouTube channel but you can chat with him on WhatsApp
This guy knows everything about this robotic and how to take it it off and service on a worktop
Which I was going to take mine off send it to him has a last resort
But he told me what to do what to change and do it this way
Brilliant guy very knowledgeable on this robot
He actually told me how important it is to keep this servicesd new oils fluids etc
The reason multiecuscan is a must have
Definitely the best thing I’ve bought to use on this gearbox
Anyway here’s his channel so if anyone gets a issue or wants him to service the robot he can help even sell you parts from sensors etc he can get the seals which even fiat stopped making
He’s had certain parts made himself to carry on helping others keep it maintained
 
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