Technical Do I need to replace my rusty rear axle ☹️
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Technical Do I need to replace my rusty rear axle ☹️
Yep, its true they don't make much on trade-in as they are outside the trade "envelope" on age, being as the youngest are 14 years old.
But that doesn't stop them from being seriously cheap transport, and they sell well privately to people who know.... like you!
As well as first-time buyers who want cheap and simple cars, as long as they are still tidy.
But that doesn't stop them from being seriously cheap transport, and they sell well privately to people who know.... like you!
As well as first-time buyers who want cheap and simple cars, as long as they are still tidy.
Unfortunately it looks like the car hasn't been looked after
Most of the fault have been bodged for at least 4 years as the same faults are still present
Underside corrosion was picked up 2020
Also the exhaust hangers and clamps, ones probably failed now
Last few MOTs without advisories look like they weren't as thorough as they should be
Most of the fault have been bodged for at least 4 years as the same faults are still present
Underside corrosion was picked up 2020
Also the exhaust hangers and clamps, ones probably failed now
Last few MOTs without advisories look like they weren't as thorough as they should be
That MOT history reads almost the same as one I told my nephew not to buy.
It looked nice enough, but had spent its entire life alternating between really short journeys and being parked on a grass driveway.
It looked very crusty underneath, to the extent that even the trims on the steel wheels didn't sit properly due to the surface rust.
It looked nice enough, but had spent its entire life alternating between really short journeys and being parked on a grass driveway.
It looked very crusty underneath, to the extent that even the trims on the steel wheels didn't sit properly due to the surface rust.
Can't argue with that
Helps if you can take someone with you than knows the model of car you are buying
Or ask on here if it's a fiat
Thank you. Once that chunk came off I was thinking the same and am not driving it anymore. Already had offers for 300+ quid on facebook marketplace with the issues disclosed. Hopefully I'll be getting a decent bit more than scrap value
Take the money and let it go, its an accident waiting to happen. Onwards and upwards.
Looking at the MOT list on Gov. website too me I would say the owner in 2023 got advised by his MOT station that it was getting rusty and sold it, it was off the road for a year then who ever bought it got an "easy Mot" and sold it to you, as there is no mention of the rust on the latest MOT certificate. see how long the last owner had it on the V5c.
There was no 2024 MOT.
My daughter had a VW Tiguan that the rear subframe was getting rusty and it stated that on the old Mots, a trader bought it for a low price, a few weeks later it was sold for £5k , we looked on the Mot site and it has been failed for a few items that to our knowledge were not true and then it was passed with a clean Mot and no mention of the rusty subframe at all!!!
There was no 2024 MOT.
My daughter had a VW Tiguan that the rear subframe was getting rusty and it stated that on the old Mots, a trader bought it for a low price, a few weeks later it was sold for £5k , we looked on the Mot site and it has been failed for a few items that to our knowledge were not true and then it was passed with a clean Mot and no mention of the rusty subframe at all!!!
Which shows how desperately difficult it is to find a decent, cheap ULEZ compliant £35 RFL used car.
I can only guess what the state the rest of the bodyshell will be inside, but I'd expect a borescope examination of the interior of the sills to show significant internal corrosion.
Panda sills are wierd.
I've worked on Pandas with undersides that looked like discarded ship anchors, and the sills have been great. But also had ones with only slight surface corrosion on the rear beam, but the sills fail the squeeze test.
I'm still convinced the main causes are bad jacking and repaired damage (except on 100HPs that have perfectly designed plastic rust traps so the sills rust from the outside in, starting at the holes for the plastic clips).
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Nutty about Pandas Infected by Panda virus and OPD
We had a 2011 sold a year ago for £600. It was running well and exceptional bodily it also had a full MOT. Ai £200 I would accept and move on as soon as possible. Its an OK offer and a lot more than scrap.
My Panda is 16yrs old and had its first advisory for the rear axle corrosion. I have treated it a few times over the years (I have it from new) with Waxoyl, particularly around the spring cups. Having seen this I am going to clean it up again in the coming weeks and have a good inspection.
This thread reminded me to check my rear axle. 2008 car at 76k miles. Is this level of rust ok, or a cause for concern?
You can never tell just by looking
Wire brush and inspect for thin metal and cracks
Shocks look very old, check for oil misting and the top rubber bush
They can look bad but only be superficial and visa versa
If there's a reasonable amount of metal and no cracks, a small amount of maintenance now and it will probably our last the car
Check the brake pipes for corrosion also
Bottom shock bolt does not look too good they are normally pretty good
Check this seem for paint bubbling, surface rust is fine where the jack has scratched the paint off
Wire brush and inspect for thin metal and cracks
Shocks look very old, check for oil misting and the top rubber bush
They can look bad but only be superficial and visa versa
If there's a reasonable amount of metal and no cracks, a small amount of maintenance now and it will probably our last the car
Check the brake pipes for corrosion also
Bottom shock bolt does not look too good they are normally pretty good
Check this seem for paint bubbling, surface rust is fine where the jack has scratched the paint off
Thanks, I'll get a wire brush to everything and see how it comes out.
If you have axle stands, I'd be tempted to undo the two top shock bolts and drop the springs out,
A quick wire brush and paint now will stop them going on the MOT as an advisory
Talking of MOTs. have you done a history check
It usually gives a indication of how the car has been looked after
Same advisory a few times is normally a sign of lack of maintenance, or it's not genuine
If something drops of advisory, that genuinely should be there. Point to a weak MOT being done
It's not 100%, because I have replace something and it was still an advisory on the next MOT as it was just copied and pasted from the previous MOT
A quick wire brush and paint now will stop them going on the MOT as an advisory
Talking of MOTs. have you done a history check
It usually gives a indication of how the car has been looked after
Same advisory a few times is normally a sign of lack of maintenance, or it's not genuine
If something drops of advisory, that genuinely should be there. Point to a weak MOT being done
It's not 100%, because I have replace something and it was still an advisory on the next MOT as it was just copied and pasted from the previous MOT
Yes actually last two years advisories listed
‘Rear Coil spring corroded’ on both sides. Car was not driven much the last couple years until I bought it recently. Next MOT not for another 9 months so I was going to look to try sorting these in time.
I do have axle stands / jack available..
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One easy way is to buy a spray can of waxoyl and apply it to the exposed parts of the beam and springs. This will stop it from getting appreciably worse; you might need to repeat this in a couple of years time.
It's how I dealt with mine after the first advisory and I've had no problems at subsequent MOT time for at least five years now.
Some have gone much further, even to the extent of removing the beam, shotblasting to bare metal and then hot dip galvanising. Admirable, but a lot of work!
