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I’m of a different view on this, I think they have to start to opening things back up, otherwise what will be left to open, and how many millions of unemployed will there be, all the financial shows I’ve seen, and I’m not talking just the uk but worldwide say ,it will be a recession beyond anything seen before.
 
Im fine with returning to 'normality'

But my work have policy of 2 metres and proper PPE

no PPE available for purchase.. it was ordered in Feb

They made a big effort to import some recently.. its not to spec. apparently

But yes you are correct.. we may as well attempt to get ourselves exposed in a more controlled way.. or the last 4 months of 2020 will be a disaster.

Economy : Recession
Its been just around the corner since @2012 its only the mega low interest rates that have kept things going so long

All those big mortgages will bite.. :eek:
 
I'm parking as badly as possible.. ;)

but 'small Italian city cars' make lousy roadblocks :eek:


Yes we are seeing lots of groups of racing cycles around here.. nothing new.. perfect terrain in Ebbw Vale
you are allowed out once a day though no obvious stipulation to a time limit ;)
Most of the bike club's seem to have Ignored the lockdown and gone on group ride anyway
 
I’m of a different view on this, I think they have to start to opening things back up, otherwise what will be left to open, and how many millions of unemployed will there be, all the financial shows I’ve seen, and I’m not talking just the uk but worldwide say ,it will be a recession beyond anything seen before.

ive lived through 3 day week, ive lived through recession and financial crisis. I have been poor and lived in cars and on peoples sofas, I don't want to die from some fecker breathing on me. i'd rather be poor again.
 
For once I agree with you Dave............

Heard from a lad today, that works in a garage, that some car insurance companies are not honouring claims if you car is past the MOT date and not MOT`d

They seemingly are saying that the vehicle is not in a roadworthy condition !!!

Anybody heard about this ?
 
ive lived through 3 day week, ive lived through recession and financial crisis. I have been poor and lived in cars and on peoples sofas, I don't want to die from some fecker breathing on me. i'd rather be poor again.

I’m no expert, but from the financial experts, who I admit are foreign ones, but they really don’t seem to have the same agenda that you hear on uk tv, nobody will have ever lived through anything like what may be coming, on the up side, they also say the british furlough payment scheme is the fairest and most generous in the world.

I’m not looking to start a argument, but I think it’s fair to have what may happen in the future in the discussion.
 
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Hopefully this calamity is soon passed
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Heard from a lad today, that works in a garage, that some car insurance companies are not honouring claims if you car is past the MOT date and not MOT`d

That's nothing new, but it hasn't anything to do with Covid 19.

The government has extended any MOT by a further 6 months for vehicles that have had a test due under the lockdown, so even if a car has passed it's original test date without a test it will show as MOT'd on the .Gov records.

So they can't refuse a claim on it not having an MOT, as it'll have one, though they might refuse a claim if the vehicle isn't in a roadworthy state even with an MOT.


Her in doors Vitara has just been updated on the .Gov site as it should be due at the end of the week.

It seems they extend it around 7 days before it's originally due a test.


Insurance companies don't chase the paper test results, but use the electronic records to see if it's taxed and tested, they'll even check your license this way (or a conference call with them, you and DVLA) rather than asking for actual hard copies.

Lordy, a car and Corona virus post!
 
what do you mean immunity? this isn't chickenpox. there hasn't even been a reliable test made yet to find out if once you have it you have any immunity,

If a vaccine really is going to take a year, then I think this is something that needs to be considered - that's the route Sweden seem to be taking.

There's frustration mounting here in Taiwan now; sure we're sealed off from the virus, but what's the point if as soon as we open up travel again it will just come back - just delaying the inevitable.

A lot of people are starting to think the same, just catch it, get it over with and be done with it.
 
If a vaccine really is going to take a year, then I think this is something that needs to be considered - that's the route Sweden seem to be taking.


A lot of people are starting to think the same, just catch it, get it over with and be done with it.
It has been considered people are working hard on it but have not come up with a reliable immunity checking test yet.
Catching it is no guarantee it will be over with, you could have immunity that lasts for life or you could have immunity that lasts a week. or you could have no immunity at all.
 
Agree with your take on it Dave but also I think I am, or will be, jealous of Sweden if their strategy pays off.

I personally think the government were planning on the same idea but chickened out at a late stage, hence the scramble for PPE etc.

Sweden is a completely different type of society ( and importantly, climate ) so not sure if we can make a direct comparison.

Also very mixed ideas about this testing issue. You could test negative on Monday and get the virus on Tuesday ( bit like MOT on a car ), so I ask, is there too much emphasis on testing being the be all and end all.

Spoke to somebody today about the APP that is being tried. Their take on it was that they would not cooperate, for the following reason.
If you were traced back to a carrier, who you might have only passed in the street, to be then told to stay inside for 2 weeks on only sick pay of £90? a week, to then come out to have the same happen again............ not a great prospect is it!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I personally think the government were planning on the same idea but chickened out at a late stage, hence the scramble for PPE etc.

Sweden is a completely different type of society ( and importantly, climate ) so not sure if we can make a direct comparison.

Also very mixed ideas about this testing issue. You could test negative on Monday and get the virus on Tuesday ( bit like MOT on a car ), so I ask, is there too much emphasis on testing being the be all and end all.

Spoke to somebody today about the APP that is being tried. Their take on it was that they would not cooperate, for the following reason.
If you were traced back to a carrier, who you might have only passed in the street, to be then told to stay inside for 2 weeks on only sick pay of £90? a week, to then come out to have the same happen again............ not a great prospect is it!!!!!!!!!!!
yes heard immunity was a Boris idea to start with he said yes lots will die but for the greater good. it was then pointed out immunity was not guaranteed as its a new strain of virus, there may be no immunity at all so he was stopped.

testing people isn't bad. atm if you have symptoms no test you are supposed to stay home anyway (with sick pay if you qualify for it) and you may not even have it, if you have a test and its negative you can go back to work (if its open)

as for the passing by others then getting told to go home on £90 a week a few times. well £90 a week is better than death.
 
I agree with your thinking Dave BUT unfortunately there will be an awful lot of households with big mortgages and bills that simply cannot survive on sick pay.

Ignore the virus and keep your house or toe the line with the risk of homelessness.............

Difficult !!

Away to find Boris`s 50 page book of advice to see how much stupidity is in there and never to see the light of day.

Surely an A4 bit of paper held up to the cameras with basic rules would be all that folk need......................
 
Away to find Boris`s 50 page book of advice to see how much stupidity is in there and never to see the light of day.
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They have to make it so complicated that what ever goes wrong there will be something in there that can twist them out of it.

They should put some thing in place to cover rent and mortgage though. but i bet they wont, people with a bit of spare money love it when the economy crashes. houses get repossessed and they get to buy them all up cheap.
 
According to one of our key statatitions the risk of death to people younger than 25 hardly registers.
Below 40 or so and you likely have to have a significant compounding factor.
Above 70, that's bad, 1% or so of those known to be infected die.
This in the UK, while the NHS was generally always able to offer the best known treatments to any given individual.
The biggest mistake, in hindsight, will have been almost literally not using military might to protect care homes and the like.
Sweden dismiss that they did not take this seriously and locked down their care homes early on, while the young were free.
Any fit and able older person in the community should be protected if they wish from anyone at all. Others might choose to circulate, for as long as the NHS forecast capacity in that period of time.
Constructively that would now be a better direction to steer the public.
 
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