Fiat is the 8th most reliable car brand?

[AnthonyH]

If you believe the website below Fiat is the 8th most reliable brand of car. They use an index that aggregates Fiat as 15th best for number of repairs and 5th best for cheap car parts, giving 8th best overall. What do you think?

Car Reliability Index | Check How Reliable Your Car Is

Explore our car reliability index for detailed ratings based on real claims data, ensuring you can make an informed decision when selecting your next vehicle.

www.motoreasy.com

 

[porta]

If it’s true, regarding actual data, then that’s excellent…however, if you look on forums and complaints websites, Dacia isn’t exactly ‘trouble free’, maybe the cheapness of repair is what’s swinging it…but, if that was the case, Fiats parts and labour prices would sink it. Maybe AI is being a little ‘forgiving’. Having said that, by the time I’d left the motor trade, ‘98, and having worked on everything from Fiat to LR, PSA to VAG and BMW, there was certainly a lift in Fiat/Lancia/Alfa and a decline in VAG, and Land Rover was, and always will be, bought by masochists or those that really don’t need one

 

[AnthonyH]

If it’s true, regarding actual data, then that’s excellent…however, if you look on forums and complaints websites, Dacia isn’t exactly ‘trouble free’, maybe the cheapness of repair is what’s swinging it…but, if that was the case, Fiats parts and labour prices would sink it. Maybe AI is being a little ‘forgiving’. Having said that, by the time I’d left the motor trade, ‘98, and having worked on everything from Fiat to LR, PSA to VAG and BMW, there was certainly a lift in Fiat/Lancia/Alfa and a decline in VAG, and Land Rover was, and always will be, bought by masochists or those that really don’t need one

The website has lots of leeway for giving more weight to cheap parts, i mean Fiat parts are pretty much always available on eBay from multilple sellers at sometimes dirt cheap price.

I would dread owning a Range Rover all of the engines blowing up must be a nightmare, or BMW because the parts cost are extortion.

I used to joke about wanting a Tesla, now I joke about how its the last brand of car i'd want.

 

[AnthonyH]

These are supposedly the worst brands...

 

[porta]

I can well believe that

 

[ben]

Oh the irony!

 

[PuntoHowTo]

As there is no way of seeing the data set behind it. who knows how accurate that is? Is this all cars going back decades, given that Saab is on the list and Chevrolet I can't help but think this is covering a lot of much older cars in some cases.

If is is taking into account the cost, that might not be a fair metric, given that one Bentley repair can cost the same as many dozens of Fiat repairs, but does that make fiats more reliable? cheaper yes but reliable? In considering the cost of repair they may be skewing the results regarding reliability

 

[AnthonyH]

The website list is "powered by AI" so they borrowed someone else's engine i'd imagine.

And then they try to sell services as a middleman, for example you enter a need for tyres and a few personal details and they go online and find a garage for you.

I wonder if they make any money.

 

[SB1500]

I never believe these surveys - even when they tell me what I want to hear! Fiat definitely doesn't have a reputation for un-reliability how the old jokes seem to suggest.

One of these surveys years ago (AutoExpress?) had the VW Polo as #1 whilst slating the Audi A3 as the worst on the unreliable side... If only the masses knew!

In the age of sharing tech with Peugeot... well, maybe Fiat might slip down a few pegs. Hopefully not.

From year to year, these lists can vary massively but... car brands / models and their engines probably only really change much every 5 years or so. Then how do we define reliability. Is it based on number of repairs? cost? significance of repair? Are some parts failing deemed worse than others - for example, an annoying trim piece falling off is annoying, but something stopping the car from starting or some flaw that will ultimately kill it off way too early would rank as 'worse' in my view. First thing you'll read in marketing textbooks (or any real scientific literature) is how to design surveys properly. A lot of the motoring press, bless them, never really figured that out.

But we all clicked it, and they made money from the ads shown.

The fact that MG isn't last is the biggest destroyer of any good faith in this survey lol

Get ready for more AI aggregated slop taking over the internet as the days and weeks roll on. It'll get so bad that we won't be able to trust anything online. I mean, anything. When it starts referencing itself the s**t will really hit the fan.

EDIT: Ohhh what's that model at #5?! ...can't say I'm overly in agreement mind you. And the Skoda Citigo at #1... when will they just listen to the sales and concede to the almighty Fiat Panda which I believe continues to outsell all three of the Citigo appliance-wagons. Even a fabricated zero star rating couldn't knock the king from its throne.

 

[AnthonyH]

I think a lot of AI is social media trying to be more credible.

I did re-write an AI list a few months ago, i.e. told the AI that the info it gave me was erroneous so it changed the info for everyone else.

Did you also know that there is a thing called "AI writing". i.e. its someones job to re-write and manipulate data and information just as i did?

 

[SB1500]

I think a lot of AI is social media trying to be more credible.

I did re-write an AI list a few months ago, i.e. told the AI that the info it gave me was erroneous so it changed the info for everyone else.

Did you also know that there is a thing called "AI writing". i.e. its someones job to re-write and manipulate data and information just as i did?

I’d say so. Some of the earlier examples were spouting out quite a bit of certain Austrian-born dictator content randomly. Without people to keep it in check, it’s haunting what it’s capable of coming out with!