So out with my much loved smartphone, and back to the old (still working) Nokia, phone & Text only............
Coronavirus - The Thread :(
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Does it have a reasonable camera?
Nope....no camera.........
We should have been tracking and tracing from the start. This will not only help isolate the virus, but also give us valuable data on how it transmits. The smartphone will show if we've been in close proximity to infected others, but even before this we could have gathered data on wheter it was transmitted by close contact or not.
It might be reasonably safe to be around others, as long as no-one coughs or sneezes, if transmission has mostly been by hugging and shaking hands etc. This data shoud be being gathered worldwide.
On another thought, how did so many in Africa get it? On the telly there are stories of so many poor people needing help, yet none of those will have been jetting around the world on holiday or business. Was the disease caried to them by their aid workers?
It might be reasonably safe to be around others, as long as no-one coughs or sneezes, if transmission has mostly been by hugging and shaking hands etc. This data shoud be being gathered worldwide.
On another thought, how did so many in Africa get it? On the telly there are stories of so many poor people needing help, yet none of those will have been jetting around the world on holiday or business. Was the disease caried to them by their aid workers?
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there have been threats of fines all through lockdown but it didn't stop some carrying on like nothing was happening and no action taken.
If you are diagnosed positive you will be required to register with the online system.
What will happen is people just won’t go and get tested so they will carry on and spread the virus because they won’t want the massive intrusion into their lives
This is a whole 15 minutes, and does go on a bit, but worth watching all through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiyTrJehvbU
Australian scientist talking about the virus, how it attaches to humans and its possible origins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiyTrJehvbU
Australian scientist talking about the virus, how it attaches to humans and its possible origins.
I don't think the UK are going to use smartphone app,
not sure if i am hearing it right but think it says if you test positive you register with tracing centre, who then call every one you have been in contact with. This is the bit that confuses me, how will they know how to contact them i don't have the contact details of the people who come and stand too close to me in a supermarket so how do they
Dont worry Dave
'Big Brother' will deal with that for you
(Im sure its based around smartphones)
But that'll only get @60% of contacts..
'Big Brother' will deal with that for you
(Im sure its based around smartphones)
But that'll only get @60% of contacts..
OP
OP
With numbers so high in the UK it will be a bit different, but here in Taiwan - they would ask you for all the places you had been to, then send an SMS message to every cellphone that had been in that area at the time.
Also - these places would be listed in the daily news briefing.
But again, we were only having around 3 or 4 cases a day, so this was pretty easy to pull off.
Shamelessly reproduced from Facebook, and some of the 'facts' may be questionable, but the general message seems to be a fair assessment:
https://www.facebook.com/1968961753122343/posts/3183120235039816/
Too good to miss. It clears up everything. Enjoy.
The week in Tory (Cummings special):
1. Dominic Cummings, one of the few men to have ever been found in contempt of Parliament, moved onto contempt for everything.
2. When the story broke, and he was accused of doing things that look bad, he said he didn't care how things looked.
3. Then ministers said press outrage meant nothing, only the opinion of the people mattered.
4. Then polls showed 52% of people wanted Cummings to resign.
5. So Cummings decided to show the public some respect, by turning up 30 minutes late to make his explanation.
6. He began by saying he wasn't speaking for the govt, which must be why he was in the Rose Garden of 10 Downing Street.
7. Then the self-styled "enemy of the Islington media elite" said his wife, who works in the media, had been ill in their house in Islington.
8. But she was only a bit ill, so he popped home, got himself nice and infected, then went back to Downing Street for meetings with lots of vitally important people in the middle of a national crisis.
9. But then he got ill too, so then it was suddenly important.
10. Sadly he couldn't get childcare in London, even though 3 immediate relatives live within 3 miles of his London home.
11. So because he was carrying a virus that can cross a 2 metre distance and kill, he immediately locked himself in a car with his wife and child for 5 hours.
12. He then drove 264 miles without stopping in a Land Rover that gets maybe 25 MPG.
13. Then the scourge of the metropolitan elites made himself extra-relatable by describing his family's sprawling country estate, multiple houses and idyllic woodlands.
14. He explained that he'd warned about a coronavirus years ago in his blog.
15. Then it was revealed he actually secretly amended old blogs after he'd returned from Durham.
16. And anyway, if he'd warned years ago, why was he so massively unprepared and slow to react?
17. Then he said he was too ill to move for a week.
18. But in the middle of that week, presumably with "wonky eyes", he drove his child to hospital.
19. Then he said that to test his "wonky eyes" he put his wife and child in a car and drove 30 miles on public roads.
20. Then it was revealed his wife drives, so there was no reason for the "eye test", cos she could have driven them back to London.
21. Then it was revealed the "eye test" trip to a local tourist spot took place on his wife's birthday.
22. Then cameras filmed as he threw a cup onto the table, smirked and left.
23. And then it emerged his wife had written an article during the time in Durham, describing their experience of being in lockdown in London, which you'd definitely do if you weren't hiding anything.
24. A govt scientific advisor said "more people will die" as a result of what Cummings had done.
25. Boris Johnson said he "wouldn't mark Cummings " down for what he'd done.
26. The Attorney General said it was ok to break the law if you were acting on instinct.
27. The Health Minister said it was OK to endanger public health if you meant well.
28. Johnson said Cummings' "story rings true" because his own eyesight was fine before coronavirus, but now he needs glasses.
29. But in an interview with The Telegraph 5 years ago, Johnson said he needed glasses cos he was "blind as a bat"
30. Michael Gove went on TV and said it was "wise" to drive 30 miles on public roads with your family in the car to test your eyesight.
31. The DVLA tweeted that you should never, ever do this.
32. Then ministers started claiming Cummings had to go to Durham because he feared crowds attacking his home. The streets were empty because we were observing the lockdown.
33. And then a minister finally resigned.
34. Steve Baker, Richard Littlejohn, Isabel Oakeshott, Tim Montgomerie, Jan Moir, Ian Dale, Julia Hartley Brewer, 30 Tory MPs, half a dozen bishops and the actual Daily Mail said Cummings should go.
35. The govt suggested we can ignore them, because they're all left-wingers.
36. Then a vicar asked Matt Hancock if other people who had been fined for doing exactly what Cummings did would get their fine dropped. Matt Hancock said he'd suggest it to the govt.
37. The govt said no within an hour. Cummings' statement had lasted longer than that.
38. And if the guidelines were so clear, why were people being stopped and fined for driving to find childcare in the first place?
39. Then a new poll found people who wanted Cummings sacked had risen from 52% to 57%.
40. Cummings is considered the smartest man in the govt
41. And in the middle of all this, in case we take our eye off it: we reached 60,000 deaths. One of the highest per capita death rates worldwide.
42. We still face Brexit under this lot.
43. It's 4 years until an election.
https://www.facebook.com/1968961753122343/posts/3183120235039816/
Too good to miss. It clears up everything. Enjoy.
The week in Tory (Cummings special):
1. Dominic Cummings, one of the few men to have ever been found in contempt of Parliament, moved onto contempt for everything.
2. When the story broke, and he was accused of doing things that look bad, he said he didn't care how things looked.
3. Then ministers said press outrage meant nothing, only the opinion of the people mattered.
4. Then polls showed 52% of people wanted Cummings to resign.
5. So Cummings decided to show the public some respect, by turning up 30 minutes late to make his explanation.
6. He began by saying he wasn't speaking for the govt, which must be why he was in the Rose Garden of 10 Downing Street.
7. Then the self-styled "enemy of the Islington media elite" said his wife, who works in the media, had been ill in their house in Islington.
8. But she was only a bit ill, so he popped home, got himself nice and infected, then went back to Downing Street for meetings with lots of vitally important people in the middle of a national crisis.
9. But then he got ill too, so then it was suddenly important.
10. Sadly he couldn't get childcare in London, even though 3 immediate relatives live within 3 miles of his London home.
11. So because he was carrying a virus that can cross a 2 metre distance and kill, he immediately locked himself in a car with his wife and child for 5 hours.
12. He then drove 264 miles without stopping in a Land Rover that gets maybe 25 MPG.
13. Then the scourge of the metropolitan elites made himself extra-relatable by describing his family's sprawling country estate, multiple houses and idyllic woodlands.
14. He explained that he'd warned about a coronavirus years ago in his blog.
15. Then it was revealed he actually secretly amended old blogs after he'd returned from Durham.
16. And anyway, if he'd warned years ago, why was he so massively unprepared and slow to react?
17. Then he said he was too ill to move for a week.
18. But in the middle of that week, presumably with "wonky eyes", he drove his child to hospital.
19. Then he said that to test his "wonky eyes" he put his wife and child in a car and drove 30 miles on public roads.
20. Then it was revealed his wife drives, so there was no reason for the "eye test", cos she could have driven them back to London.
21. Then it was revealed the "eye test" trip to a local tourist spot took place on his wife's birthday.
22. Then cameras filmed as he threw a cup onto the table, smirked and left.
23. And then it emerged his wife had written an article during the time in Durham, describing their experience of being in lockdown in London, which you'd definitely do if you weren't hiding anything.
24. A govt scientific advisor said "more people will die" as a result of what Cummings had done.
25. Boris Johnson said he "wouldn't mark Cummings " down for what he'd done.
26. The Attorney General said it was ok to break the law if you were acting on instinct.
27. The Health Minister said it was OK to endanger public health if you meant well.
28. Johnson said Cummings' "story rings true" because his own eyesight was fine before coronavirus, but now he needs glasses.
29. But in an interview with The Telegraph 5 years ago, Johnson said he needed glasses cos he was "blind as a bat"
30. Michael Gove went on TV and said it was "wise" to drive 30 miles on public roads with your family in the car to test your eyesight.
31. The DVLA tweeted that you should never, ever do this.
32. Then ministers started claiming Cummings had to go to Durham because he feared crowds attacking his home. The streets were empty because we were observing the lockdown.
33. And then a minister finally resigned.
34. Steve Baker, Richard Littlejohn, Isabel Oakeshott, Tim Montgomerie, Jan Moir, Ian Dale, Julia Hartley Brewer, 30 Tory MPs, half a dozen bishops and the actual Daily Mail said Cummings should go.
35. The govt suggested we can ignore them, because they're all left-wingers.
36. Then a vicar asked Matt Hancock if other people who had been fined for doing exactly what Cummings did would get their fine dropped. Matt Hancock said he'd suggest it to the govt.
37. The govt said no within an hour. Cummings' statement had lasted longer than that.
38. And if the guidelines were so clear, why were people being stopped and fined for driving to find childcare in the first place?
39. Then a new poll found people who wanted Cummings sacked had risen from 52% to 57%.
40. Cummings is considered the smartest man in the govt
41. And in the middle of all this, in case we take our eye off it: we reached 60,000 deaths. One of the highest per capita death rates worldwide.
42. We still face Brexit under this lot.
43. It's 4 years until an election.
Crows suspected of having covid 19 maybe
Why the Dartford Tunnel was closed and why the speed limit has been reduced:
The Highways Agency found over 200 dead crows in the Dartford Tunnel approach recently, and there was concern that they may have died from Coronavirus. A Pathologist examined the remains of all the crows, and, to everyone's relief, confirmed the problem was NOT Coronavirus.
The cause of death appeared to be from vehicular impacts. However, during analysis it was noted that varying colours of paints appeared on the ...bird's beaks and claws. By analysing these paint residues it was found that 98% of the crows had been killed by impact with lorry's, while only 2% were killed by cars.
The Agency then hired an Ornithological Behaviourist to determine if there was a cause for the disproportionate percentages of truck kills versus car kills. The Ornithological Behaviourist quickly concluded that when crows eat road kill, they always have a look-out crow to warn of danger.
They discovered that while all the lookout crows could shout "Cah", not a single one could shout "Lorry".
Why the Dartford Tunnel was closed and why the speed limit has been reduced:
The Highways Agency found over 200 dead crows in the Dartford Tunnel approach recently, and there was concern that they may have died from Coronavirus. A Pathologist examined the remains of all the crows, and, to everyone's relief, confirmed the problem was NOT Coronavirus.
The cause of death appeared to be from vehicular impacts. However, during analysis it was noted that varying colours of paints appeared on the ...bird's beaks and claws. By analysing these paint residues it was found that 98% of the crows had been killed by impact with lorry's, while only 2% were killed by cars.
The Agency then hired an Ornithological Behaviourist to determine if there was a cause for the disproportionate percentages of truck kills versus car kills. The Ornithological Behaviourist quickly concluded that when crows eat road kill, they always have a look-out crow to warn of danger.
They discovered that while all the lookout crows could shout "Cah", not a single one could shout "Lorry".
My kit came, not packed like the advert i assume so it fits in letterbox. the envelope was filthy i thought there would be car parts inside it looked like it had came from a workshop not a lab.
going to wait for Mrs dave to do it so i don't mess it up.
going to wait for Mrs dave to do it so i don't mess it up.
Boris, and his two main advisors, the Chief Medical Officer and the Chief Scientist, all went down with covid19.
Did they all get it from Cummings? Do the timings fit? Knowing his wife was ill, Cummings went into work.
If Boris contracted it from Cummings, will he think differently about him having been close to death as a result.
Did they all get it from Cummings? Do the timings fit? Knowing his wife was ill, Cummings went into work.
If Boris contracted it from Cummings, will he think differently about him having been close to death as a result.
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twobigdogs
Member
This is a car forum... I don’t come on here to discuss politics be it left/right or whatever. Please stop this thread and get back to just car chat. This is a pointless thread which just causes friction between posters much like the Media is also doing!
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The media are not helping.. its taken the BBC 6 weeks to inform people across the UK That the 'headlines'from Westminster apply to ENGLAND ONLY.
We have contributors globally discussing the pros and cons of local approaches to Covid
I get as much from this thread as I do the mainstream media.. churning over the same items hourly
Quoting half a story so often ..I'm convinced its a form of Sensorship
Its a car forum.. this thread is in 'Announcements.. '
If you dont wish to open the thread at the top of announcements... then dont..
its still.. generally speaking..a free country
Teirminator
New member
Couldn't agree more, there's no place for this thread in this forum. Move it somewhere else or lock it.
twobigdogs
Member
Correct
The media are not helping.. its taken the BBC 6 weeks to inform people across the UK That the 'headlines'from Westminster apply to ENGLAND ONLY.
We have contributors globally discussing the pros and cons of local approaches to Covid
I get as much from this thread as I do the mainstream media.. churning over the same items hourly
Quoting half a story so often ..I'm convinced its a form of Sensorship
Its a car forum.. this thread is in 'Announcements.. '
If you dont wish to open the thread at the top of announcements... then dont..
its still.. generally speaking..a free country
Again... this is a car forum... There must be plenty of political forums out there....
OP
OP
I can move it if people are really so against it.
But I originally created it:
1) To keep all discussion together and not fragmented in multiple thread
but mainly 2)
I want to know what's going on in the UK and not have to join a political forum just to find out
I don't have access to all your TV news, so here is my source!
Again this is in a non car section of a car forum, again don't like it don't open the tread its that simple
