WOW! - Desira were always big on Fiats. Had good long term contacts with their Parts Dept over the years. Not recently though. They also had a side business called Desira Parts Force who directly imported Fiat parts from Italy.
Interesting that Samsung were making cars, just looked it up and while initially it was with technical help from Nissan, later it became a joint venture with Renault and now it’s dropped the Samsung name and is now Renault Korea Motors.
Is that the Heigham street branch ? I presume the Alfa dealer has gone as well? As I said further up, they still list fiat on their website but they only have about 70ish fiats listed. I can’t blame them fiat having killed off many models over the last few years have left dealers with very little to sell.
This is the same with my nearest Desira dealer, it’s becoming a used car site now and the fiats have disappeared from the site (despite some fiat badges still being up around the building) I used fiat parts as well but I think they closed down fiat parts during lockdown.
Yes Desira we’re THE Fiat dealers from that extended area…I don’t think there’s any of the 70/80/90’s Fiat dealers still going round here except Piccadilly Motors
My last company I worked at tried to sell into India (I hated working there, god knows why anyone want to holiday there). It was when the whole "Made in India" was being pushed through, and were eventually told that if you cant make or have some value add in India then you'll get no sales.
It was odd walking along the road in the business area (gangnam style!) and seeing the "Tesco Hyundai Bank"
Every company wants to sell to India and China right now because for the most part they’re seeing a huge boom in their middle class consumer spending from slums to living life’s working and spending like we do. Huge untapped market.
Yes, much like a number of countries that saw European goods as a status symbol.Every company wants to sell to India and China right now because for the most part they’re seeing a huge boom in their middle class consumer spending from slums to living life’s working and spending like we do. Huge untapped market.
On the holiday front, seems to be more about the cultural and historical parts of its history. Buddhism from the source and whatnot. Food too. If you’re into that kind of thing. I’m into both, but I don’t think I’d last a day with their climate, sanitisation and general way of life compared to how I live
I’d love to go to Italy. Between the love of Fiat, coffee, style and beautiful natural sights and architecture I think I’d get on well. At the right time of year to avoid any extreme weather!
Turin is actually quite beautiful, the airport is more like a small aerodome…and there’s a great ‘alternative’ bar that plays indie music and arty films…but the beer, food and company is spot on, Blah Blah Bar
It's hard to see the culture when there is such rampant poverty, so many people sleeping on the streets and understand the high level roads. And not just homeless types, families walking by the side of the road on the morning. Mainly based in kolkata, but the rest seemed much the same.On the holiday front, seems to be more about the cultural and historical parts of its history. Buddhism from the source and whatnot. Food too. If you’re into that kind of thing. I’m into both, but I don’t think I’d last a day with their climate, sanitisation and general way of life compared to how I live
. Oddly lots of Suzuki in India, and VW in China.
That’s because the Chinese government controls what you see on the streets there. I’d argue those poor homeless and stricken people on the streets in India still have it better than whatever camp the CCP have forced its homeless problem into. I have no respect for the CCP, no disrespect to the people. I sincerely hope that India in the next 25 years rises up, solves some of its big issues and overtakes China as a manufacturing powerhouse based on democracy and capitalism so we can pull the mat out from under China that we’ve unfortunately helped build.It's hard to see the culture when there is such rampant poverty, so many people sleeping on the streets and understand the high level roads. And not just homeless types, families walking by the side of the road on the morning. Mainly based in kolkata, but the rest seemed much the same.
China is so much nicer, I've worked in both, quite a lot in China, often in back of beyond places (where the substations are). There's much more pride and people getting on with things rather than homeless and begging. China have the most amazing shops on town streets, you'll generally find anything you need, like walking mechanical workshop, lathes and nc machines, hand them a part and get them to modify it.
Anyway, to keep it on topic, never seen any Fiats in India or China
Here’s a good example from the past on why you probably don’t see too many Fiat’s in China.It's hard to see the culture when there is such rampant poverty, so many people sleeping on the streets and understand the high level roads. And not just homeless types, families walking by the side of the road on the morning. Mainly based in kolkata, but the rest seemed much the same.
China is so much nicer, I've worked in both, quite a lot in China, often in back of beyond places (where the substations are). There's much more pride and people getting on with things rather than homeless and begging. China have the most amazing shops on town streets, you'll generally find anything you need, like walking mechanical workshop, lathes and nc machines, hand them a part and get them to modify it.
Anyway, to keep it on topic, never seen any Fiats in India or China
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"priced under $26,800, which promises not to burn a hole in your wallet while you go greener"Seems as relevant a place as any...
Stellantis strikes back: affordable Fiat Panda EV to challenge Renault and BYD - ArenaEV
Stellantis strikes back: affordable Fiat Panda EV to challenge Renault and BYD - ArenaEV
186 miles wltp isn't particularly promising as anything other than a second car given that's probably 100 miles in winter but given the expected use case of a Panda 300 motorway miles isn't likely and would make it about 60k car.
21500 quid, put it in the region of 200 per month on lease/PCP which is let's face it how most of them will be bought.
If they want people to take EVs seriously they should close the gap in price properly. Meaning... by 2030, a C3 at £14k (albeit, more than £14k with inflation from now until then) but that still is highly unlikely to be anywhere close to the premium over ICE variants versus EV today. Not the dirty tricks they're playing at the minute by artificially inflating the base ICE models whilst grabbing as much tax payer money as possible in the form of EV grants and already applying it to the OTR price. It's the least they can do given that people will be already making accommodations for the shortcomings in everyday practicality of EVs (especially the lower range ones as the article suggests the new EV Panda will have)
All valid points. But given the genuine widespread scepticism of EV technology and where it is at (and outright failure to address some aspects concerning the sourcing of materials, labour used and actual impact to the planet) but most of all, how long these things will last in terms of useful service life before the battery becomes useless off the charger, I would say it's a tinfoil hat theory. ~ they are all equating to reasons why people are avoiding to buy them and make the switch or believe that it's the solution, why would the average buyer of a new car strive to spend more money on less certainty that their £21,000 Panda base model EV is worth their money and risk over the £12,000 ICE base models they've been trading in for the last decade?
