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I'm prompted by dave's recent post in the "not grumpy/not smile" thread about that map reading light. So I thought a wee quiz might be good fun, just as a covid distraction?

The "starter" question is, What is this:

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Well, I'm guessing that one didn't take you too long so now for one probably only us "oldies" will recognize, but maybe not? I think they're still for sale new?

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The most important bit is the "thing" on the right so here it is in close up. Clue, it's important to be able to see through it.

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And if you found that one easy, how's about this one. Clue: they were quite popular back in the '60's:

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Hope you enjoy that
Kindest regards all
Jock
 
I'm prompted by dave's recent post in the "not grumpy/not smile" thread about that map reading light. So I thought a wee quiz might be good fun, just as a covid distraction?

The "starter" question is, What is this:

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Well, I'm guessing that one didn't take you too long so now for one probably only us "oldies" will recognize, but maybe not? I think they're still for sale new?

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The most important bit is the "thing" on the right so here it is in close up. Clue, it's important to be able to see through it.

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And if you found that one easy, how's about this one. Clue: they were quite popular back in the '60's:

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Hope you enjoy that
Kindest regards all
Jock
Hi Jock,

Your quiz is a great idea(-:

Thanks

Jack
 
Thank you Jock :)

Apparently I'm not quite as old as I currently feel :eek:

I own one of those green framed things..

Is the clue in my description.. ? ;)
Sorry Charlie but I'm not too sure what you're meaning there? Then again I'm not renowned for being quick on the uptake - stopped doing crosswords years ago.

I'm hoping some more people might offer suggestions before I "spill the beans". I'll check again in the morning and see how it's going - I'm just a little surprised so few people have given it a go?

As a wee clue for pic No 1 the nut takes a 7/16 AF spanner and the cable is relevant to the current it can carry - nudge nudge.
 
I suspect there are not more than 15 'regulars' who peruse the Leisure Lounge

So
You can leave it to sunday lunchtime if you want.. give 'em all a chance (y)


I must admit.. I have a little plan too

But mine may well start as a poll..
Then a discussion

Hopefully no wrangling over Boris / vitamin supplements ;)
 
So far got PMs from both PB and Jack (so as not to spoil the fun - thanks chaps) - both spot on! You guys just know too much! I had thought the last one might fool you all, but no. As has been said it was a device which claimed to "cure" a problem which didn't really exist, as a problem, in the first place!

Regarding the first picture. There is conjecture as to what it was from? It's actually from an elderly, quite large, horticultural cultivator. However, I seem to remember that the one on Morris minors was virtually identical so felt I wasn't being too devious including it.

Going off for my jag early afternoon so I'll review this when I return and maybe confirm answers then. Already thinking of some more "curiosities" if people would like to continue this? Which department of the forum is best to post in? do you think most people will see it here in the leisure lounge? (Someone commented that maybe not so many of us oldies lurk around here?) - Oh, there it is, it was Charlie.
 
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Well, responses seem to have tapered off to this. By the way, thanks for doing PMs in reply, I'm sure this made it more interesting for others who could still make guesses.

Jack was first to reply and got every one absolutely spot on! I'm not especially surprised with his interests in the older vehicles, but well done none the less!

PB and Dave (moderator) came close behind, again with 100% correct!

By now I was thinking I'd made it too easy so I was relieved then to find a few people, possibly with a little less experience, making their contributions. A popular one was that the last item - the disc shaped thing - was a gas regulator. which was a very intelligent guess I thought as it looks quite like the regulator on a barbeque gas cylinder doesn't it?

So thank you for the great response everyone, you've given me a great deal of enjoyment. I hope the new one i've just posted will entertain you as much or maybe more - can't wait to see what people make of it.

Just for clarification:

The first Item was indeed a cable operated switch for a starter motor. I remember seeing them on many vehicles - Morris Minors for instance - and were typified by having a knob on the dashboard you pulled out to activate. In fact this actual one was off an old, quite large, horticultural cultivator I was working on a few years ago.

The next three were, as nearly all of you knew, a Gunson Colourtune. I'm actually surprised that so many knew of this tool as it's not a lot of use on modern engines due to the fact you can't now easily adjust mixture (and, as the computer is doing it constanty there's no need to anyway). Personally I found it worked very well with fixed choke carbs Solex, Zenith, Dellorto, Weber etc. but needed a bit of "interpretation" to work well with variable choke devices, S.U. and Strombergs were mostly what I worked on. The reason being that once the needle/jet assemblies had a bit of wear in them they would tend to run a bit rich at tick over so if you leaned them off using the Colourtune, then they would be too lean at higher revs. What it was very good at though was balancing mixture on twin or tripple carb setups - I'm not talking about balancing the throttles here - These setups had small diameter balance tubes in the inlet manifold/s running between the carbs so there was always a bit of bleeding between them. If, for instance, you had something like an MG with it's twin SUs you could put a colourtune in nos 1 and 4 and then play with the mixture until both came out the same colour - having first balanced the throttle butterflys. Just in case someone has no idea what a colourtune is have a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRfSj47QCio Of coures this is using a motor cycle engine but the theory is the same on any carbureted petrol engine.

The last one is indeed a fuel pressure regulator. Made by Malpassi, I was surprised to see it's still available to buy to this day: http://www.officinamalpassi.it/en/ It advertised that it controlled any excess pressure being supplied by the lift pump - in those days it would be a relatively simple and unsophisticated mechanical lift pump - and also damped out the pulse effect a lot of these pumps were prone to. In theory it sounded a very good idea. In practice, at least on the vehicles I ran it on, it made no measurable difference that I noticed. If you are buying a good quality fuel filter for an older car today I like the idea of the one that includes the filter: https://www.dellorto.co.uk/shop/car...malpassi-filter-king-pressure-regulator-67mm/

So, hope you had a good time with that? and I hope you all, and others, will feel inclined to have a go at the next (and maybe my last) one? Regards Jock

Ps. Someone's come up in my PM notifications already! Hmmm, wonder if it's Jack? any bets folks?

PPs. Oh! Surprise! it's PB! Thanks PB, I'm just going to make a cup of tea and then I'll answer back.
 
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Thanks Jock

I've an inherited version of #1 ..
Without looking at it properly I couldnt have described it ( oldest car Ive properly worked on was probably my mk1 fiesta van... early steps.. I owned mid 70's mk1 escorts.. but as '1st cars' just drove them)

I thought 'colortune' as soon as I saw the ceramic..
But if you had flashed the 'boxed kit' before my eyes.. I would've offered AIRBRUSH.. :eek:
why those long tubes..?

Was it so in daylight the colour could be seen down a 'periscope'?

Regulator.. certainly.. :)
Thanks for explaining the ins and outs

Every days a school day.. (y)
 
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Thanks Jock

I've an inherited version of #1 ..
Without looking at it properly I couldnt have described it ( oldest car Ive properly worked on was probably my mk1 fiesta van... early steps.. I owned mid 70's mk1 escorts.. but as '1st cars' just drove them)

I thought 'colortune' as soon as I saw the ceramic..
But if you had flashed the 'boxed kit' before my eyes.. I would've offered AIRBRUSH.. :eek:
why those long tubes..?

Was it so in daylight the colour could be seen down a 'periscope'?

Regulator.. certainly.. :)
Thanks for explaining the ins and outs

Every days a school day.. (y)
As you say "every day's a school day" and never was that more true than with all the covid stuff going around.

Regarding the colourtune's long tube. It was so you could see the flame colour when the plug was in a more inaccessible position. I've seen the VW Beetle engine shown in one example. By installing the tube and angling the mirror at the end of it you can then see the glass window of the plug more easily.
 
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