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Intermittent fault

Hi I have a 2013 panda twinair and I have just had a strange fault
Driving the radio goís off comes back on indicators work then stop then start again yellow light came on in dash
The dash lights came on for about 20 seconds then went off
Stoped car restarted no problems then it started again but this time it was only the radio and indicators
Anyone had this problem
Itís got to be a loose wire or connector I hope but were ?
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Welcome. @typecastboy @varesecrazy @Goudrons any thoughts?!
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Re: Intermittent fault

No idea where

Any aftermarket electrics fitted?

No known accident repairs??
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Re: Intermittent fault

Which yellow warning light came one?
The triangle?

If so this is the "Generic Failure Indication" and some of it's warnigs are linked to a beep, which might explain the radio going off.

There are a few reasons this warning is triggered.
Exceeding a set speed limit (if you car has the function and it's set)
Fuel cut off fault.
Stop/start system fault (if fitted)
City Brake control system fault (if fitted)
Parking sensor fault (if fitted)
Oil pressure sensor failure
Water in diesel filter (if it's a diesel)

But perhaps the biggest reason is the system monitors the lighting system and warns of things like blown bulbs.
It self tests the circuits when active for the correct current draw so will only flag up a fault when that circuit is active/on, so a blown brake light bulb will only throw a warning when the brake pedel is pressed.
The warning will stay on until you switch the ignition off and back on, this will reset the system until you press the brake pedal again and the warning will return.

As it seems to effect the indicators, you might have a blown bulb or dodgy connection on that circuit, so it's worth checking all the lights work when they should, including all the indicators.

(it's worth noting this warning system doesn't take well to aftermarket LED bulbs as they don't draw enough power to complete the test so the system thinks there's a blown bulb)

I've had a blown indicator bulb and I seem to remember the indicators "tick" disappearing, the one's that weren't blown flashed but the "tick" was silenced.
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Hi thanks for the replyís I had a flat battery a month ago and changed the headlight bulbs to brighter ones
But I have been driving it about for 2 weeks with them fitted with no problems
The air bag light came on today but went of again
Has anyone got any wiring diagrams to see if theses things are connecting some were
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Hi thanks for the replyís I had a flat battery a month ago and changed the headlight bulbs to brighter ones
But I have been driving it about for 2 weeks with them fitted with no problems
The air bag light came on today but went of again
Has anyone got any wiring diagrams to see if theses things are connecting some were
Thanks
Andy
Sadly, no wiring diagrams have been published, and anyway owing to the computer control over CanBus, they may not help. Each of the things you've mentioned is turned on or off by the main body computer (which is what the fusebox at the back of the glovebox is part of). There is a slim possibility of a loose connection to that? Theres a small access hatch in the back of the glovebox that lets you reach the fuses. To get to all the connectors you may need to remove the glovebox (which is quite easy - four screws round the door opening and one at the back inside).
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Re: Intermittent fault

Thanks for the info
I think it might be a loose connection as it comes and goes
I will have the glove box out and have a look
Let’s hope I find something
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Re: Intermittent fault

It is also worth checking the various earth connections around the car - if either end of the circuit is not making good contact some very odd things can happen with CanBus control.
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Re: Intermittent fault

First think I would be doing is if you haven't got MultiECUScan, buy it and a set of cables and get the diagnostics on it and see what errors you're getting up.
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Quote Originally Posted by caznandy View Post
Thanks for the info
I think it might be a loose connection as it comes and goes
I will have the glove box out and have a look
Letís hope I find something
Thanks
Andy
Do check the connections around the battery too
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Do check the connections around the battery too
I have checked the connections around the battery the only one that I’m not to happy with is the clamp on earth lead it’s the quick release type
Thinking of cutting it of and bolt it on to the battery earth
Has anyone had any problems with them
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Quote Originally Posted by caznandy View Post
I have checked the connections around the battery the only one that Iím not to happy with is the clamp on earth lead itís the quick release type
Thinking of cutting it of and bolt it on to the battery earth
Has anyone had any problems with them
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You mean the stock one with the quick release.. or something smaller bolted to it?

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Quote Originally Posted by caznandy View Post
I have checked the connections around the battery the only one that Iím not to happy with is the clamp on earth lead itís the quick release type
Thinking of cutting it of and bolt it on to the battery earth
Has anyone had any problems with them
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You mean the stock negative pole clamp with the quick release.. or something smaller bolted to it?
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You mean the stock one with the quick release.. or something smaller bolted to it?

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Yes the stock one it seams a bit loose
It locks on ok but not shore about it
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Quote Originally Posted by caznandy View Post
Yes the stock one it seams a bit loose
It locks on ok but not shore about it
Just remember that the posts are tapered..
Try and wriggle is down as far as you can before tightening
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