General Raising/ lowering hood
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Thats the one F4ust on each side.
Don't believe that from a mechanically inclined strapping Welsh lass
F4ust that's the first time I have ever noticed them
thanks for sharing...
I didn't know what was meant till I saw the pic. Thought I was missing something
I'll let you know if I've got any when I put the roof up for the first time this weekend (I hope!)...
xS
xS
Hi guys
We finally got the hardtop off yay!
Anyway, as novices at putting up the softtop, we have put it up but there is a gap under the back edge of the roof that sits over the tonneau cover. How are you supposed to make the strut things with hinges that are inside the hood stay rigid so that the back of the roof sits snug on the car? If we push them so they are straight then the roof fits but as soon as you let go they give and the roof lifts up a little. It is easily enough of a gap to let water in.
xS
We finally got the hardtop off yay!
Anyway, as novices at putting up the softtop, we have put it up but there is a gap under the back edge of the roof that sits over the tonneau cover. How are you supposed to make the strut things with hinges that are inside the hood stay rigid so that the back of the roof sits snug on the car? If we push them so they are straight then the roof fits but as soon as you let go they give and the roof lifts up a little. It is easily enough of a gap to let water in.
xS
Xs
Congrats for getting your top off.
Had a quick look at my hood frame, and the only adjustment I can see is an allen screw with a locking nut. this is located on the first joint just behind the headrests. the screw sits against a cam, unwinding this allen screw may allow the rear of the hood to sit down on the tonneau cover.
Do the three rubber feet on the lower part of the hood sit on the tonneau cover? I presume you have the rubber seal on the lower edge of the hood.
Dave M
Congrats for getting your top off.
Had a quick look at my hood frame, and the only adjustment I can see is an allen screw with a locking nut. this is located on the first joint just behind the headrests. the screw sits against a cam, unwinding this allen screw may allow the rear of the hood to sit down on the tonneau cover.
Do the three rubber feet on the lower part of the hood sit on the tonneau cover? I presume you have the rubber seal on the lower edge of the hood.
Dave M
Can you post a pic Mechelle?
Hi, yes it does have the rubber feet and the seal but the feet are not sitting on the car, they are about 3/4 cm off.
Mike tried fiddling with that allen key bit that you mention but it didn't seem to make any difference. It is as if the arms inside the hood want to be straighter somehow. Here are some pictures.
xs
Mike tried fiddling with that allen key bit that you mention but it didn't seem to make any difference. It is as if the arms inside the hood want to be straighter somehow. Here are some pictures.
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Sorry to go back a couple of posts, but yes the text does say the gas struts he's selling are easier, more specifically it says it's aimed at people with less strength.
I've bought a couple of bits from him and found the service to be good. The parts I got were second hand but in good condition.
I've bought a couple of bits from him and found the service to be good. The parts I got were second hand but in good condition.
hi guys
can you let me know if you have problems seeing the pics above? I can see them fine when i'm logged in but not when i'm not for some reason.
xs
can you let me know if you have problems seeing the pics above? I can see them fine when i'm logged in but not when i'm not for some reason.
xs
That just shouldn't happen Mechelle when the front of the roof is folded forward and clipped into place the frame should be sitting hard against the tonneau cover there should only be a gap when the front part of the roof is folded back
I'm just wondering if the hard top being fixed more firmly has moved the tonneau cover downwards or flattened the rubber seal that the cover sits on.
I think there is adjustments on the catch at either side of the cover but think you also need to look at the hinges at the back to see if the back of the cover can be lifted.
Can't see in the pics, does the tonneau cover sit lower than the boot? they should be exactly the same hight.
when the front of the roof is folded forward and clipped into place the frame should be sitting hard against the tonneau cover there should only be a gap when the front part of the roof is folded back I'm just wondering if the hard top being fixed more firmly has moved the tonneau cover downwards or flattened the rubber seal that the cover sits on.
I think there is adjustments on the catch at either side of the cover but think you also need to look at the hinges at the back to see if the back of the cover can be lifted.
Can't see in the pics, does the tonneau cover sit lower than the boot? they should be exactly the same hight.
The more I think about it the more sure I am that the hard top has moved the cover downwards. In the diagram below the hinges (part No 16) more than likely need to be adjusted by loostening the nuts and lifting it, you need to make sure that the rubber under the cover sits as snugly as the rubber on the back of the soft top. If the seal under the cover looks overly flat itmay need to be replaced, although I get the feeling that you replaced that last year?
I also think you need to get to a meet or meet up with another member to compare at the next oppertune moment
I also think you need to get to a meet or meet up with another member to compare at the next oppertune moment
Hi Alan
You can see the pics here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/shelxs/Car
I'm wondering if the soft top has been stored for so long it just needs to loosen up a bit? It sits perfectly till just at the last moment when you fasten the clips and it almost feels as if the fabric is a bit stiff and might loosen up with a bit of use. Or it could well be that mike and i have done something completely stupid as we've never had a soft top before.
xs
You can see the pics here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/shelxs/Car
I'm wondering if the soft top has been stored for so long it just needs to loosen up a bit? It sits perfectly till just at the last moment when you fasten the clips and it almost feels as if the fabric is a bit stiff and might loosen up with a bit of use. Or it could well be that mike and i have done something completely stupid as we've never had a soft top before.
xs
Pics are fine, but would like to see pics of the seal under the tonneau and the boot and the tonneau cover when both are closed.
When you say stored I take it the soft top has always remained in the car. How long has the hard top been attached?
Finally don't worry you haven't done anything wrong it's the simplest of mechanisms that's either open or closed so you can't mess that up. I think as said it's just the panels that need adjusted (fingers crossed). You have a valid point about the stretch in the material, I have my doubts but may be worth leaving it a couple of days to see. Meantime check for any differences in those panel hights
When you say stored I take it the soft top has always remained in the car. How long has the hard top been attached?
Finally don't worry you haven't done anything wrong it's the simplest of mechanisms that's either open or closed so you can't mess that up. I think as said it's just the panels that need adjusted (fingers crossed). You have a valid point about the stretch in the material, I have my doubts but may be worth leaving it a couple of days to see. Meantime check for any differences in those panel hights
Hi Shel - just a thought, the rubber seals may have become very brittle from being dry stored for so long. Try rubbing Swissvax "seal" treatment all along all of the seals, leaving overnight and then repeating. It's not cheap (£23 a bottle, from memory) but it's amazing. i am lucky enough to be 2 miles from Swissvax's uk importer, but if you try swissvax.co.uk, you should be able to find them ok. any problems, let me know - I can always nip over and get some for you and post it on.
Thanks for the tips guys. I'll try and take some more photos and post them later today.
xS
xS
Hi Shel,
I'm away from Nottingham this weekend or I would have had a look at it for you. I'll be around this evening if you're still stuck and would like to see how it works on another b...
Stu
I'm away from Nottingham this weekend or I would have had a look at it for you. I'll be around this evening if you're still stuck and would like to see how it works on another b...
Stu
I think between the seals and wiring it would be good if someone could please give it a going over. Save any further trips to the garage as I'm a bit scepticle about the service she's getting
Shel, Took some photos of my hood fitting. First one shows how close the hood is to the bodywork, the gap between is supposed to be 3mm but as you can see mine is near touching. Reason for this is that you are effecting the relationship between the upper hood rubbers and side glass. I needed to lower the hood to get an effective seal.
Second pic shows the allen bolts for this adjustment, their is quite a lot of movement here. Don't remove all the allen bolts as you are screwing into a clamping plate that will drop down inside the bodywork. I am guessing but I think you may need to tilt the hood assembly towards the rear of the car allowing the rear of the hood to sit on the tonneau cover.
Before you start undoing any of the bolts mark with a felt pen your original position, so as to give you an idea how much movement you have made.
Shel hope this helps I can't guarantee that this is the fix but it's worth a try.
Dave M
Second pic shows the allen bolts for this adjustment, their is quite a lot of movement here. Don't remove all the allen bolts as you are screwing into a clamping plate that will drop down inside the bodywork. I am guessing but I think you may need to tilt the hood assembly towards the rear of the car allowing the rear of the hood to sit on the tonneau cover.
Before you start undoing any of the bolts mark with a felt pen your original position, so as to give you an idea how much movement you have made.
Shel hope this helps I can't guarantee that this is the fix but it's worth a try.
Dave M
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