Purchased car around 8000 miles, now 38,000.

I need help with the following:

1: Error: Start Stop Unavailable
Occurred at approx Mileage: 15,000

Summary: when stopping e.g at traffic light, car often stalls when releasing brake. Message appears on display.
Note: I just disabled this, after battery check seemed ok.

2: Error: Check Glow Plugs
Occurred at approx Mileage: 37,000

Summary: Message appears on screen intermittently (approx 50% of the time) when starting vehicle.
Note: I have not had issues driving the car, and local garages have indicated this error is not always accurate, ie it may say glow plug but be something else. Is this correct?

3. Error: City Brake Unavailable & Temperature Not Displaying
Occurred at approx Mileage: 30,500 (issues started to manifest)

Summary: At 30,500 miles, randomly it told me the temperature was 41 Celsius. It was half of this. Temperature inaccuracies have continued.

At 38,000 miles, temperature stopped displaying and is just _ _ _ on screen. The City Brake Unavailable error came up at the same time.

I also noted I cannot adjust the passenger wing mirror with the dial on the driver door since this occurred.
Note: Pics attached, two wires connecting to the door have split (passenger side). I suspect it may be related? Any ideas what these two wires control specifically that are split?

Please help

I can see the broken cables, how best to fix? I am worried if I strip them and try to join, they may be fragile and break more. Also suspect the issues may be related in some fashion. I spoke to fiat and just for the door they quoted me a whole new unit for 1.5 to 2.5k!

Overall, quite sad my car has so many errors, and need to get him back into shape. Just worried about the cost of all of this.

Hi

Your temp sensor wiring is going to a mirror.. look for a dimple at the bottom of the mirror?

A quick patch.up of the broken wires will at least let you know if the temp. And mirror control are restored.

I am unsure of the Citybrake

But it is possible that an 'incomplete electrical circuit' could disable it


Repairing my broken wiring ( on a punto..) restored a LOT of functions.. a productive 30 minutes

Hey just a quick one, the wire that does the window on the passenger side I noticed was also loose and I managed to “slot it back in” to the connection box and it works again. If I wanted to the replace the passenger door loom wiring entirely, how hard of a job is it?

I posted on a couple of website for quotes like one of the sites you sort of get a few garages who reply and nobody came back which makes me think is this something only Fiat can do?

Any tips on how best to get this done? OR is it an easy job such as remove the glove box and just connect it to some places?

Hi there. Well firstly you must sort out the broken wiring as this may well be the entire cause of the problems. Stop start does have some temperature input via the ECU. It will not work until the engine is warmed up so loss of signal is possibly linked.

Soldering is easy with an electric soldering iron and you can buy shrink wrap ay halfords for a few pounds. STart by repairing and see what happens then.

ECU can be reset on some cars by disconnecting the battery for half an hour.

Have you had the error codes read on a Fiat oriented scanner. This will allow any useful information to be gleaned and errors reset. If you have MES - multi ecu scan from Gendan.co.uk it will run on most lap tops and is easy to use. You can get diagnostic information and perform resets without much trouble. Someone on here near you may be able to help do a scan and reset.

Get the battery checked out and suspect it of foul play too.

I hope this is a start to getting the car back right. Good luck

Which model do I need?
I see 3
https://www.gendan.co.uk/product_FESPKG.html
https://www.gendan.co.uk/product_FESCAN.html
https://www.gendan.co.uk/product_FESMPLEX.html

Having lived in America for a while, there's a sort of subset of typical driven "American cars" (they are not American at all but just driven by a lot). I started driving age out there, and then came back home to the UK later.

When out there, it was just unheard of to have a 38,000 mile vehicle have this sort of issue. I am on two minds, is the car just a lemon and this is the start of what will be an endless headache?

Having spoke to FIAT, I was somewhat shocked by their customer service, effectively telling me "the EU has 2 years warranty" and "any manufacturing defects will always show in 2 years." Erm - really?

I have another vehicle, finance approved, new with service package, got 7 days to pull out.

I have driven this for 30k miles and there's always been "something" randomly popping up on the dash. It slowly wears you down, but I was hopeful FIAT would be more supportive, I might have got somewhere after explaining UK Law is 6 years to go via court, and the US this would be a class action lawsuit if they disregarded customers claiming all manufacturing defects would show up in 2 years, like what if I barely drove the vehicle. They effectively said, get a diagnosis, pay for it yourself (lol - awesome way to gain loyalty), and they MAY, but "probably will not" offer some sort of "good will."

Is the car likely to do 50k+ extra miles without issues or am I going to be driving a disco of errors in another 15k miles?

Everyone trolls American cars / driving, in reality, they don't buy much American, and what they do buy is a giant truck of some-sort which lasts 30 years. My first Honda out there, 170k miles on purchase, had timing belt changed, and then ran like a dream until 280k when I came back to the UK (odd oil changes etc, nothing spectacular to keep it going).