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Old 13-05-2019   #16
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Re: Gearbox/clutch problem

They did what I suggested, top up the reservoir which allowed them to drive it so the garage. They have given worst case so hopefully it really wonít be that. Someone did suggest the fluid level could be down to a wearing out clutch. Itís a 2013 with around 45k on it.
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An update on this. Not sure if I said above but after taking the car to my trusted garage they said it needed a new gearbox which they did. Only a few weeks later I have heard the car is back there with the same problem. So gearbox didnít need replacing then presumably.

Will try to find out more when I go to garage for mot on Wednesday.
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Re: Gearbox/clutch problem

Hmm... trusty garage.

The problem is "gear selection".. and gear selection is *always* the clutch.... unless there's an issue with the gearbox.

A dodgy 'box can have worn selector forks that prevent the gears from being held (the car jumps out of gear) or a worn syncho' (whining while driving and difficulty changing gear without it crunching) or it can have shot bearings.. (whining on the move).

It's very rare that a knacked box does not let you engage gear at all. Throw in the loss of clutch fluid... and it's only going to be a clutch component. Otherwise, where has all the fluid gone?

I think you'll find a shagged slave... something spectacularly trivial... that bleeding the system probably temporarily resolved (maybe the O-rings got re-seated in a different position by the bleed and the leak abated for a week or two, etc.). There must have been a trace of all the fluid though... so it's "disappointing" if they touched up your missus for a new gearbox.

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Re: Gearbox/clutch problem

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The problem is "gear selection".. and gear selection is *always* the clutch.... unless there's an issue with the gearbox.
I'd say that 80% of gearchange problems on RHD cars are down to clutch hydraulics & 10% to selector cable faults. Only 10% or so are the result of an actual clutch or gearbox failure.

However (and I've said this many times before), continuing to drive when you have difficulty in changing gears can quickly lead to real clutch &/or gearbox failure.

Take heed of the warning and get it sorted ASAP; hydraulic and cable faults are much cheaper to fix than replacing the 'box.

If bleeding provides a temporary fix, change both master and slave cylinders as a pair - they'll come with all the pipework and connectors you need. The master cylinder is a known weakness, and slave cylinders can be had for peanuts. The so-called quickfit connector soon corrodes, and trying to separate them once the car is a few years old isn't worth the hassle.
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Re: Gearbox/clutch problem

This is actually someone who I sold a car to a few months ago who is also a friend, so although Iím not, I feel somewhat responsible. As far as Iím aware, there was no whining noises or previous difficulty in getting it into gear until it just wouldnít go in when the engine was running. They filled up the fluid and got it to the garage where they told her it needed the new box which they did. Now the same thing has happened and itís gone back to them. Iím going there in the morning for an mot so am going to dig deeper. All along I didnít think it was the gearbox. I thought it was the master and slave. They really are a trusted garage that I have been using for some time and they knew it was one of my cars so I really donít think they have stitched her up. Hopefully more info tomorrow.
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