there are so many ways this sort of thing can be done....
As I said it is a paper exercise...
the goods don't leave the EU they are shipped to the UK...
just the paper trails says they have....

It will not be long before someone sets this up....

I have already been in discussions with a supplier with a view to setting up a UK store... the parts will be shipped to the UK at cost thus lowering the duties paid in the UK... and then supplied from here...

Just need to decide if it is worth the effort....

FR85 said:

Can you collectively form a fiat buyers club and run it as a legitimate company with a vat number thus claiming vat back?

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would probably get stung with corporation tax if you set up as company

you can voluntary register for vat as a self trader though but the car you are buying the parts for would have to be business assets

I sell parts to the eu through ebays global shipping program as its easier, i do free uk delivery on all my stuff, so when someone out side of the uk buys it i just send to a uk shipping centre, ebay used to add the postage for the buyer and they paid that, just checked and they now also are adding tax and only estimating it. so for an example a buyer from Spain looks at my item for £75 he used to see a postage added by ebay price of about £10, now he also sees tax at £20 estimated. cheers boris

Bigvtwin996 said:

there are so many ways this sort of thing can be done....
As I said it is a paper exercise...
the goods don't leave the EU they are shipped to the UK...
just the paper trails says they have....

It will not be long before someone sets this up....

I have already been in discussions with a supplier with a view to setting up a UK store... the parts will be shipped to the UK at cost thus lowering the duties paid in the UK... and then supplied from here...

Just need to decide if it is worth the effort....

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I'm a world away but now the UK is no longer part of the EU don't they just come into line with the ROTW? So if you send an item to a non-EU country to then send it on to the UK (even just on paper) won't this also attract UK VAT? In which case you're no better off. Or do you not pay VAT on imports from everywhere else?
I'm in New Zealand and we pay our equivalent of VAT (GST) on all imports.

***I'm not an accountant***

I live in Brittany and wondered about ordering Car Parts from my normal suppliers in the UK. For the moment no problem but i have thought about changing. I have used Rimmer bros for many Years and have started to look at Moss in the EU. One for ease of delivery and of course the other cost.
Take care with the Covid
Alan

I have just tried to order about £115 of parts from FD Ricambi, usually a VERY reliable supplier---BUT, you now have to have a MINIMUM order of £200 (exc. carriage). I only need a few parts, not £200 worth, plus the probability of HMG adding their chunk onto it! Thanks Boris---you have well and truly cocked it up!

the hobbler said:

I have just tried to order about £115 of parts from FD Ricambi, usually a VERY reliable supplier---BUT, you now have to have a MINIMUM order of £200 (exc. carriage). I only need a few parts, not £200 worth, plus the probability of HMG adding their chunk onto it! Thanks Boris---you have well and truly cocked it up!

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It's that unknown that really irks me; and who knows in what other aspects of life we may also be negatively affected? I would suggest that BJ certainly has no idea of the answer to that!

I'm being brave and giving it a try. My campervan will never run again if I don't use Italian suppliers. The one I am using says he has not had any feedback so far about UK consignments getting nobbled for extra charges. However, he chose not to answer me clearly as to whether he includes IVA/VAT in his price; that's going to be the sticky issue. The package will be a "present" to me and the value of the contents is actually less than £135, which seems possibly to be the cutoff point for some of the charges.

We'll see what happens with this particularly co-operative Italian seller. The added problem with these guys is they really have no shame in the prices they ask for things in the first place.

Been biting my lip on this one partly as I can’t think of anything polite to say. So over the weekend I sold an item to a resident of Northern Ireland with a UK postcode. First thing I noticed was that the online shipping was more expensive to a N I postcode which it never used to be then when I paid for the service instead of just printing out the postage label I also got one page of customs instructions and three pages of customs forms to fill in and attach to my small parcel

It is called 'progress' Dave, but as I once said about the (early) computer system installed at the M/Benz garage that I was working at---"progress is movement, but with no guarentee that it is forward"!

Should also mention that I checked something out on the Italian 500mania site and could not help noticing that the postage costs for all items seem to have doubled to around £25 for even the smallest items.

the hobbler said:

I have just tried to order about £115 of parts from FD Ricambi, usually a VERY reliable supplier---BUT, you now have to have a MINIMUM order of £200 (exc. carriage). I only need a few parts, not £200 worth, plus the probability of HMG adding their chunk onto it! Thanks Boris---you have well and truly cocked it up!

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This is an example of things to have been considered before voting i'm afraid. There are things for the Brexit BUT also against. Depending on your personal situation.
Some people win and some loose.
Alan

plasticpig1972 said:

This is an example of things to have been considered before voting i'm afraid. There are things for the Brexit BUT also against. Depending on your personal situation.
Some people win and some loose.
Alan

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We were lied to before voting, there was much talk of a Norway style deal

dave said:

We were lied to before voting, there was much talk of a Norway style deal

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that implies that the majority that voted leave even considered the consequences of leaving...

I think most simply voted leave as a protest at how **** the UK Government is (no matter what lot are in power) and how the UK rolls over continually...
UK courts are over ruled by the EU and UK laws are meaningless..

And how Article 8 (right to a family life) means you can clam having a pet dog entitles serious criminals to remain in the UK rather than deported to their country of birth is upheld by the European courts.......

Perhaps in some ways it will give those that do nothing in the UK the kick up the arse they need to get up and do something, as we will no longer be over ruled by the EU...

Bigvtwin996 said:

that implies that the majority that voted leave even considered the consequences of leaving...

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consequences were considered but we was told by may when she was HS a vote to leave wont close the boarders,
we were told dont we would get a great deal like norway with free trade and movement.
the NI boarder was not Talked about enough because why would it need to be if we had a Norway style deal. People never should have voted in Boris, no matter how bad the press made Corbyn look we would have had a better chance of a revote and/or a better deal, and probably most of the 100.000 would still be alive too.

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consequences were considered but we was told by may when she was HS a vote to leave wont close the boarders,..........

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I don't think the majority of the people who voted leave even listened to what the Politicians said... they were not interested... they just wanted not to be told what we could do by the EU...

May was a sacrificial lamb... that's why Boris dropped out in the first leadership election, so he could come in and save the Tories...

But the realty is... Politicians don't give a stuff about the general population....

Does anyone really think they go into Politics to better the lives of the People??
You go into politics to feather your own nest, to be in a position where you can get paid directorships, after dinner speakers or consultants... because of the influence you may have over your "old friends" and decision by a politician is for their own benefit...

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May was a sacrificial lamb... that's why Boris dropped out in the first leadership election, so he could come in and save the Tories...

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may when she was HS a vote to leave wont close the boarders not when she was PM, when she got to be PM first thing she said was she was going to close boarders as that is what people voted for, how can she come to that conclusion when as HS she said they wont close. they had to appeal to the working class racist as they need them to stay in power

Quote from above " they just wanted not to be told what we could do by the EU"
I wonder if the people in Scotland would do the same if there was a referendum for SCOUT (SCotland OUT) of UK. At the moment people in Scotland are being told what to do by the UK.
Just a thought.
Alan

simple fact...
although elected by "the people"
Politicians do what they want to do and never what the people want...
Cameron thought he understood and that everyone would vote for what he wanted... He was given a bloody nose....
The public will not be allowed to vote on any decisions ever again for a very long time.....

plasticpig1972 said:

Quote from above " they just wanted not to be told what we could do by the EU"
I wonder if the people in Scotland would do the same if there was a referendum for SCOUT (SCotland OUT) of UK. At the moment people in Scotland are being told what to do by the UK.
Just a thought.
Alan

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Personally I'm sick of hearing sturgeon going on about it she's like a one trick pony

I think some of you need to jump on the common thread on Coronavirus...there's plenty of debate there.

Personally, I'm big enough to see that there is a huge variety of gains and benefits which vary according to your interests, type of work or your wealth relative to everyone else. But the UK government has used that so-called "sovereignty" to make choices which have intentionally resulted in many aspects of life going much less smoothly and being more expensive for the majority of the population than they did before.

Like everything in life, this was all about making wealthy individuals even wealthier and squeezing more money in taxes and levies from all of us.