they have dip sticks behind the steering wheel, that good enough reason to hate them
Why so much ford hate?
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Why so much ford hate?
Mine is a pile of sh*te & cost me a fecking fortune...but my mk1 mondeo was like stu's & yours was good reliable car.
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Ok, not giving it away as such.
By this stage, the Ford was sat on our driveway, not doing much - I had the Stilo to play with...
It needed new tyres, servicing, MOT, etc - so I bartered it to him, in exchange for some services in kind
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Why? they're not even that quick! something to do with poor gear ratios?
one of the reasons i moved to fiat had rust on my 04 plate new KA within 12 months round the rear wiper they made such a mess of the respray and then accused me of messing it up
never noticed any on the arches as most of it is plastic but the Filler cap is known for it so when my mum got hes a can of waxoil was emptied round it so far touch wood nothing has come of it
the rear wiper has JUST started to bleb (one project for next year and the bottom of the door shut on the rear panel (where stones hit it) have had that out with the dremal and repainted
still love the KA even the 1.3 is like a Go cart :devil:
dads got a 6 year old mondeo small amount of rusty paint work on a par with my 8 year old punto
he has duel mass flywheel problems
he has duel mass flywheel problems
reality sucks. i was imagining stu's country side estate tended by a dozens gardeners.
I borrowed Ex's Ka when my fiat was dead and buried, handles great it does have rust problems yes but its not that bad and tbf look at w reg mk2 punto the majority I looked at a few years ago while shopping for what became my 85 had rot starting on leading edge of roof and bonnet.
i had an option of a ford ka
very very common fault...my focus had rutsy doors before 3 years old & year later snapped belt & 16valves.......& people think fiat customer care was bad. Despite FSH & having it all in writing they wormed out of it all by (wait for it....) I worked at a ford garage
Never again...i'd rather work as a stud to single housewives than work for ford again!
merc are also guilty of pisspoor rust protection. upto 2001 for some cars, and 2003 for other models, they all rusted in key areas. ours was a 3yr old (y2knew) e320cdi avantgarde, was written off because of the rust
also with fiat, their brand was tarnished by peoples opinion that all fiats rusted to nothing. Fiat addressed this with a market leading galvo programme from ~1993 onwards. what have ford done? TEN years later, still no decent galvo, merc? again 10years AFTER fiat
also with fiat, their brand was tarnished by peoples opinion that all fiats rusted to nothing. Fiat addressed this with a market leading galvo programme from ~1993 onwards. what have ford done? TEN years later, still no decent galvo, merc? again 10years AFTER fiat
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very very common fault...my focus had rutsy doors before 3 years old & year later snapped belt & 16valves.......& people think fiat customer care was bad. Despite FSH & having it all in writing they wormed out of it all by (wait for it....) I worked at a ford garage
Never again...i'd rather work as a stud to single housewives than work for ford again!
quick rundown of what i experienced what i posted recently on Detailing World
I now know rust is a common problem on the tailgate but not at the time i was livid got as far as getting the paperwork to taking them to court but traded it in instead life's too short
Don't get me started on Ford body shops Ford head office are sodding useless
had a Ka (stop sniggering at the back)
my first car my pride and joy
anyhow after a year (i pointed it out when it went in for service)
there was rust bubbling up under the rear wiper grommet
so they had it in for inspection and ford authorized a "repair" i wanted a new tail gate as once rust is in the metal it usually comes back
Anyhow i agreed to the "repair" well when i picked it up it was raining and dark was given the keys and sent on my way
next day i washed it carefully and the Ford dealer had made a royal balls of it (this was pre discovery of DW and even i knew that they had made a mess when they machine polished it there was buffer trails all over the boot lid) and some muppet had tried to leaver in the rubber grommet with some sharp implement and gone back to bare metal. And tried to cover it/hide the marks with silicone grease and they hadn't even managed to get the KA badge in the right place
they then had the balls to say i'd damaged the paint and wouldn't do anything about it ford UK didn't want to know hence i no longer have a ford and the Ford garage in question based in Knottingly (near Pontifract don't get any of my family or close friends business ) my old man had had 2 brand new cars from them and one pre-reg and my car makes it four from them and they couldn't care less
I was not a happy chappy
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Is this relationship with your gardener a Ted/Ralph type relationship?...I bartered it to him, in exchange for some services in kind
You havent sat in one recently have you?
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Good man, i looked at one, but insurance would kill me.
Ford outsell Fiat for good reasons to be honest- especially with the Focus and Mondeo- The GP does look a lot better than the Fiesta (not the new one though:yum
and the 500 looks better than the Ka- which is also due a mighty fine looking replacement.
yeah, but the only advantage it has are looks.
the new ka is a 500 so both are doomed to looking unstable and out of proportion, but obviously the ford will look better (even if a blind man beats it with a mallet)
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Sorry, I am a die hard Fiat fan as are my family having owned Fiats for years but i have to disagree that fords are crap which i used to think as well.
My dad started off with a focus company car whch he did 100k in and had no problems ever with it, my Gf had an r reg mondeo which did 114k and was still going even after she put it through a wall (and it was on its original clutch her dad tels me)- that car was fixed and is still being used today, the ex had a ka which was a lot more fun that any other FWD car i had driven (including my mk2b at the time)- that was like a go kart, and i have my Focus Tdci which is brilliant- I cant fault it whatsoever- such a fun car to drive.
Also when my dad lost his company car he went out and bought another focus- a '51 1.6 zetec which was faultless. He then replaced this with the Stilo which was in for recall after recall, failing this failing that, it needed a pnew steerng rack, had an apetite for tyres, skywindow would leak and jam open, he then got fed up with that and bought an 07 Focus- again no probems as yet! I also remember getting a shot of the stilo after thefocus and being disappointed. Dont get e wrong the stilo was a nice car but personally i think the focus is better- hence why i bought my own.
As for rust,not a problem with any of them except the mondeo- but that was 10 yrs old and was never looked after (it was only a scab on the back arch)
whereas my mk1 punto (s reg and only 5yo at the time) was bubbling on the roof and boot lock. The stilo (4yo) was starting to go at the bottom of the doors when we got rid of it. Not to mention the electrics going on the tipos we had the leaking seicento...
plus, as for customer service, our local ford dealer is the friendliest dealer i have ever come across. Must just be lucky i suppose.
My dad started off with a focus company car whch he did 100k in and had no problems ever with it, my Gf had an r reg mondeo which did 114k and was still going even after she put it through a wall (and it was on its original clutch her dad tels me)- that car was fixed and is still being used today, the ex had a ka which was a lot more fun that any other FWD car i had driven (including my mk2b at the time)- that was like a go kart, and i have my Focus Tdci which is brilliant- I cant fault it whatsoever- such a fun car to drive.
Also when my dad lost his company car he went out and bought another focus- a '51 1.6 zetec which was faultless. He then replaced this with the Stilo which was in for recall after recall, failing this failing that, it needed a pnew steerng rack, had an apetite for tyres, skywindow would leak and jam open, he then got fed up with that and bought an 07 Focus- again no probems as yet! I also remember getting a shot of the stilo after thefocus and being disappointed. Dont get e wrong the stilo was a nice car but personally i think the focus is better- hence why i bought my own.
As for rust,not a problem with any of them except the mondeo- but that was 10 yrs old and was never looked after (it was only a scab on the back arch)
whereas my mk1 punto (s reg and only 5yo at the time) was bubbling on the roof and boot lock. The stilo (4yo) was starting to go at the bottom of the doors when we got rid of it. Not to mention the electrics going on the tipos we had the leaking seicento...
plus, as for customer service, our local ford dealer is the friendliest dealer i have ever come across. Must just be lucky i suppose.
i also think the dealers are very good, much better than my local Fiat dealers anyway.
You always know where you stand with Ford, unlike VAG or BMW
my dad got a complete brand new set of alloys when his had a sort of black rust appear on them (i know alloys dont rust btw). and they threw in some parking sensors for the aggravation it had caused him. He has bought about 10 cars from this dealer in the past though. They still call him Maveric man- he had one that was in the garage twice a week and they could enver discover the fault- so they gave him a spanking new one instead :slayer:
You always know where you stand with Ford, unlike VAG or BMW
my dad got a complete brand new set of alloys when his had a sort of black rust appear on them (i know alloys dont rust btw). and they threw in some parking sensors for the aggravation it had caused him. He has bought about 10 cars from this dealer in the past though. They still call him Maveric man- he had one that was in the garage twice a week and they could enver discover the fault- so they gave him a spanking new one instead :slayer:
yes they do. aluminium oxcide is white not orange but it is still an oxcide (rust). have you ever seen wheels with bubbles? just look at alfa teledial alloys for a prime example of rust. almost all of them have rust bubbles by 7 years old.
