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I'd love to see that as I've never seen a Typhoon flying. I always associate them with air to ground rocket attacks. They were always portrayed in that configuration in the wee comic books I bought as a lad.

Ah now.. There are two Typhoons. I think you are talking about this one. That found its niche after the D-Day and supported allied forces with air to ground rocket attacks, during the 2nd world war.

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Where at the Typhoon that people are discussing here is the "Eurofighter typhoon"

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There is only one example of the Hawker typhoon left in the world which is a non flying exhibit which I think is in the RAF museum in london, so no likelihood of that ever flying again.

The Eurofighter on the other hand are always flying around down here especially over north Norfolk where they do training out over the wash and like to play with the Americans from Lakenheath and the privately owned jets from the dog fighting companies.

(there are actual companies that own and operate fighter jets for the sole purposes of combat training with the armed forces, usually piloted by highly experianced but forces retured combat pilots)


When I was quite young I attended an airshow where an English Electric lightning was displaying. I will never forget it's take off where it stayed low until it was maybe half a mile or so off the end of the runway and then stood on it's tail and climbed straight up like a rocket. I was pretty young but I've never forgotten it.
I knew a ground crew guy who worked with the English Electric Lightning. One took off from here at RAF Coltishall and landed at RAF Lossiemouth 15 minutes later. which worked out to something like 1600mph with the distance being around 400 miles. and it was known to be able to do well in excess of its "official" top speed. The pilots used to refer to it as flying a jet engine with wings attached as there was little more to it than that. it was a truly insane aircraft, the likes of which we won't see again as it was developed in a time where you had to outrun the enemy, these days you might outrun the enemy but you won't outrun missiles so top speed doesn't matter anymore.
 
I love the fact that BDA stands for Belt Driven A type although many called it Belt Driven Anglia and I seem to recall in a tuning book called Tuning Small Fords it was referred to as that, around the early 70s we had a customer who did a lot of racing , he owned a lime green Ford Anglia with a tuned Lotus 1600 Twin Cam engine in it, which sounded and went great.
In the early 70s I saw my one and only Drag Race meeting, it was a Demo at Dunkerswell Airfield near Honiton where we had our local Kart Racing Club.
To hear those engines going from what sounded like a old car with the choke out just about dying, to full throttle screaming into the distance with such immediate response was a real eye opener.
Sadly down here there are no race tracks, so I would have to travel a fair distance. Wiscombe Hill climb and in the past we had one at Oddicombe twice a year until HSE I think caused it's demise. A friend of mine used to do Pre 65 Motorcross and the advances in tuning etc. when compared with when I used to run similar British four strokes was impressive, although they way I ride at 16 it is probably a good thing I didn't have one of those tuned to that level.;)
Always interests me as to what people think BDA stood for. I have always thought it was Belt Driven Assemblies but I just googled it and you're nearly right, it's Belt Driven Series A. Every day's a school day?

Don't get me started on drag racing. I tried very hard to get Firestone to import drag slicks back in the very early 70's when I was part of their European Racing Division. However the market was much too small to warrant it at that time so it came to nothing. The noise, smells (first time you get soaked in neat methanol spraying out the headers on a push start and you'll never forget it - after your eyes stop weeping!) and the violence of the fastest vehicles is awesome. A lot of novel engineering goes on too.
 
Ah now.. There are two Typhoons. I think you are talking about this one. That found its niche after the D-Day and supported allied forces with air to ground rocket attacks, during the 2nd world war.

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Where at the Typhoon that people are discussing here is the "Eurofighter typhoon"

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There is only one example of the Hawker typhoon left in the world which is a non flying exhibit which I think is in the RAF museum in london, so no likelihood of that ever flying again.

The Eurofighter on the other hand are always flying around down here especially over north Norfolk where they do training out over the wash and like to play with the Americans from Lakenheath and the privately owned jets from the dog fighting companies.

(there are actual companies that own and operate fighter jets for the sole purposes of combat training with the armed forces, usually piloted by highly experianced but forces retured combat pilots)
Yup, the Hawker Typhoon was the one I was thinking of.

I knew a ground crew guy who worked with the English Electric Lightning. One took off from here at RAF Coltishall and landed at RAF Lossiemouth 15 minutes later. which worked out to something like 1600mph with the distance being around 400 miles. and it was known to be able to do well in excess of its "official" top speed. The pilots used to refer to it as flying a jet engine with wings attached as there was little more to it than that. it was a truly insane aircraft, the likes of which we won't see again as it was developed in a time where you had to outrun the enemy, these days you might outrun the enemy but you won't outrun missiles so top speed doesn't matter anymore.
After seeing that one perform I'm not surprised.

I think the whole point behind the lightening was that it could get right up there amongst the "baddies" very quickly indeed but it's fuel consumption was horrendous. Much the same concept, although probably more useable, than the Messerschmitt comet, I'd imagine the Lightening had a bit better "loiter" time though. Mind you I bet the pilots were glad to be flying it and not a Lockheed Starfighter (widowmaker) which I think was around at roughly the same time?
 
So Mrs.Cheest has this somewhat annoying habit of telling me something just isn't done. I think it has something to do with being second generation German and perceived social norms. Her Aunt and Mom were very annoying at that. Anywho, we have the grandsons during the day now that school's out for the summer. They live on a steady diet of Mac n' Cheese and hot dogs. We were out of hot dog buns and out of white bread. We did have brioche bread. I said just that and she said that you can't have hot dogs on brioche. I countered with why the eff not and was told...wait for it..."It's just not done." I countered with both 'Bullshit' and 'watch this'. I doctored up the dogs on the brioche and it was good. I made her try one. She ate it all then looked me in the eye and said, "asshole" and walked away. :ROFLMAO:

American problems.
 
Yup, the Hawker Typhoon was the one I was thinking of.


After seeing that one perform I'm not surprised.

I think the whole point behind the lightening was that it could get right up there amongst the "baddies" very quickly indeed but it's fuel consumption was horrendous. Much the same concept, although probably more useable, than the Messerschmitt comet, I'd imagine the Lightening had a bit better "loiter" time though. Mind you I bet the pilots were glad to be flying it and not a Lockheed Starfighter (widowmaker) which I think was around at roughly the same time?
They carried very few munitions and so they were a get in quick and get out quick type of fighter. Just a couple of rockets on the underside of the nose and not a lot else. Very well suited for that purpose but where not very versatile when the world moved on and we wanted more bombers that could travel long distance and multi role aircraft that could carry bombs or rockets, and then came the laser guided weapons so the likes of the Jaguar, tornado, buccaneer and even the phantom were all better suited to multi role operations.

There is a famous story of the engineer who accidentally ended up in the air in a lightning when he was trying to fix a problem and it broke free and he ended up off the ground and having to be talked down. And he even earned 15 minutes flight time in a lightning for his log book lol
 
she said that you can't have hot dogs on brioche. I countered with why the eff not and was told...wait for it.. "It's just not done."

American problems.
you can tell her from this side of the pond it is very much done here and all over Europe, brioche buns are very popular for burgers and hotdogs and many restaurants will offer brioche buns and don’t have any other option.
 
you can tell her from this side of the pond it is very much done here and all over Europe, brioche buns are very popular for burgers and hotdogs and many restaurants will offer brioche buns and don’t have any other option.
One thing I can't stand is a Brioche burger with a bit of lettuce and getting hit for £15+ I much prefer a seeded bap it has more flavour to me.:)
 
I knew a ground crew guy who worked with the English Electric Lightning. One took off from here at RAF Coltishall and landed at RAF Lossiemouth 15 minutes later. which worked out to something like 1600mph with the distance being around 400 miles. and it was known to be able to do well in excess of its "official" top speed. The pilots used to refer to it as flying a jet engine with wings attached as there was little more to it than that. it was a truly insane aircraft, the likes of which we won't see again as it was developed in a time where you had to outrun the enemy, these days you might outrun the enemy but you won't outrun missiles so top speed doesn't matter anymore.

There are some top class stories with the lightning.

Some being it was capable of overtaking Concorde, another that it could intercept the U2 and finally that it really annoyed the Americans by turning up alongside the then absolutely secret SR-71 and also regularly intercepted it in drills by climbing above it and using a ballistic trajectory to make up the speed difference.
 
I got on great with my first mother in law, but the second was so two faced she used to tell my future wife not to marry me and when we got married and told, her she came up to me and said how pleased she was.:censored:
My mother in law and I get along well, we always did. Father in law, on the other hand...
Let me just say that his lifelong military career is what kept him from a life behind bars. **** poor excuse for a human being. I think my MIL was secretly pleased that I wouldn't tolerate any of his BS and stood toe to toe when necessary.
 
There are some top class stories with the lightning.

Some being it was capable of overtaking Concorde, another that it could intercept the U2 and finally that it really annoyed the Americans by turning up alongside the then absolutely secret SR-71 and also regularly intercepted it in drills by climbing above it and using a ballistic trajectory to make up the speed difference.
I seem to vaguely recall something about a lightning greatly exceeding the altitude of the Sr71 and beating it in a training exercise.

While American made aircraft are some of the best in the world, they are often left surprised by the tenacity of European pilots who are willing to go to great lengths to defeat them. A freach pilot holds the record/honour of recording the only kill on a training exercise on a F22 raptor which is supposed to be “unkillable” when the French pilot pushed his Rafale past 9G in turns to keep the F22 in his sights. I think he bent the airframe of the Rafale and got told off.
 
Of course the thing that's entirely built in Britain about the lightning.

Most of the ridiculous speed feats are credited to one plane if memory serves (XR749).

With the aircraft industry being a cottage industry pretty much there wasn't a level of quality control as we'd see it now.

So certain planes were faster than others and the one that overtook Concorde/intercepted the U2 was infamous/famous among the pilots for being the fastest one.
 
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So Mrs.Cheest has this somewhat annoying habit of telling me something just isn't done. I think it has something to do with being second generation German and perceived social norms. Her Aunt and Mom were very annoying at that. Anywho, we have the grandsons during the day now that school's out for the summer. They live on a steady diet of Mac n' Cheese and hot dogs. We were out of hot dog buns and out of white bread. We did have brioche bread. I said just that and she said that you can't have hot dogs on brioche. I countered with why the eff not and was told...wait for it..."It's just not done." I countered with both 'Bullshit' and 'watch this'. I doctored up the dogs on the brioche and it was good. I made her try one. She ate it all then looked me in the eye and said, "asshole" and walked away. :ROFLMAO:

American problems.
I agree with her entirely.



And I agree with you.
Might just not be right, but sure as hell tastes OK
 
Advice from tge AA. Dont forget the chicken wire! Ha ha ha ha ha and LOL
First car I ever bought after getting married and still being young and innocent, had sills like this only the filler (we called it "catty") was supported by screwed up pieces of newspaper stuffed into the sill. I remember when glass fibre first came out it was being recommended for stuff like this and was claimed to be even stronger than the original metal!
 
(we called it "catty")
You still get catalloy I'm sure. Not had to use it in many years.

I remember when glass fibre first came out it was being recommended for stuff like this and was claimed to be even stronger than the original metal!
Have you seem the bodyshell of a scimitar, it's about an inch thick to give it the same strength.
 
Have you seem the bodyshell of a scimitar, it's about an inch thick to give it the same strength.
I have actually, When we moved into our present home some 35 years ago, my neighbour was rebuilding an early one - I was very impressed because I've always liked the look of the early body. The chassis was in pretty good nick but a lot of other stuff needed done - brakes, shocks etc etc. It was the first car i ever put a complete stainless steel exhaust on and it was a right pain. nothing quite lined up. We eventually got it fitted by assembling it in place with all the clamps and fitting very loose - as you do anyway - but then one of us hanging on the pipe near each joint as it was tightened, using the "slack" in the joint while the other tightened the clamp allowing the pipe to distort slightly as the clamp tightened. We ended up with a pretty good result but used quite a bit of gum gum too. What wasn't quite so impressive was the cheap tinny noise from the silencers when we first fired her up. Took about 6 months to become more acceptable (I guess due to carbon build up?) but I never thought it sounded as good as one with a standard steel system.

Oh yes, the bodywork. His had a wee bit of crazing on the wings but not bad. I didn't really notice how thick it was. Think the reason given for it being unacceptable for MOT structural repairs was questions over the bonding being strong enough to the existing steel work and that there was no way of checking this bond strength?
 
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