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Unlike houses the depreciation of the second biggest expense for most of us is cars, so I work on the premise of getting the best for what little I can afford.
Years ago a friend bought a brand new Mitsubishi Shogun with "Diamond Pack Extras" for around £17000 at roughly the same time as I bought a solid Series LandRover SWB Petrol for £150. (yes I know I should have kept it) I said to him mine does exactly the same as yours except "pose";)
 
Hopefully the bloke will have maintained it like his lively hood depended on it, and as result most of the dv6 issues would have been fixed long before 220k...or have been taken care of by not being used round the doors. They can be strong..but need the right usage and care.
having had a brother who was a taxi driver, up and until he started his own business building campervans I can assure you that while they will get repairs done on things like the engine and running gear, anything that isn’t needed to get the car from one place to another, then it gets little attention, including aircon.

When the car reaches the end of its life and won’t pass the taxi equivalent of an MOT, then no work gets done
 
having had a brother who was a taxi driver, up and until he started his own business building campervans I can assure you that while they will get repairs done on things like the engine and running gear, anything that isn’t needed to get the car from one place to another, then it gets little attention, including aircon.

When the car reaches the end of its life and won’t pass the taxi equivalent of an MOT, then no work gets done
It's got an engine that's fairly notoriously made of glass if you don't maintain it and it's done 220k so the drive train must be reasonably well looked after.

I've seen these pop with less than 100k on, anything superfluous to taxiing will probably be knackered but to have lasted this long it's doing better than most.
 
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having had a brother who was a taxi driver, up and until he started his own business building campervans I can assure you that while they will get repairs done on things like the engine and running gear, anything that isn’t needed to get the car from one place to another, then it gets little attention, including aircon.

When the car reaches the end of its life and won’t pass the taxi equivalent of an MOT, then no work gets done
Sounds like me now I am retired;) .
Joking apart, I only had one regular customer who was a taxi driver, an old boy who would bring out a diary and say the car has done so many miles, book me in for brake pads or what ever.
Apart from him generally I found taxi drivers wanted the job done yesterday and pay as little as possible tomorrow!
When I was an apprentice in 1969 I did a service at the garage I was working for on a Austin A60 taxi that was doing school runs, on taking the brake drums off, with no lie there wasn't a trace of material on any of of the brakes front and rear, not just rivets, metal to metal to all brake drums. I told the boss, who informed the customer, who said leave it till next week!!!
 
I see as forecast by a member EVs to be road taxed soon.
Yep good old Jeremy Hunt. (With a capital C) couldn’t fully screw up the NHS but my god did he try, so now turning his attention to screwing the whole country instead.
this will mean that a brand new EV will have to pay some £185 a year road Tax, when mine and my wife’s car are both cheaper to tax with my golf being only £30 a year for a 2litre diesel. With the increase in electricity costs and the super cheap road tax I think the value of my car just went up.
 
Opened my shed door and stuck my head in..

Slight edge on the smell...it's an old shed and not in great nick usually smells of soil and paint. But this is urea...and a bit of something else.

Sure enough field Vole has chewed a nest in a blanket I tend to use for covering the car seats when going to tip...or covering the floor when painting.

Apparently it didn't agree with it...as it was dead (they don't hibernate). Oh well out the back it goes...sure a local bird or cat will appreciate it. Although given the contents of the shed it's VOC content will probably not be ideal!
 
Saw this posted elsewhere..

Somebody might be able to sort the pic.. if it doesnt show

Its from an Irish Animal Welfare organisation

Encouraging you to check under your bonnets for cats ( felines)

Image has a FIAT -ALFA Underbonnet some kittens..and a LOT of roadgrime

Opening the bonnet is overdue methinks

Anybody recognise this layout..1.4?

 
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Upon being a passenger in the 2010 Vauxhall Astra my dad has just bought, I'm left wondering just how much mainstream cars have usefully progressed in the last 10-15 years... 😐
Would the place to make such a determination not be the passenger seat of a 2022 Astra?

If keeping the rain off and seating five are the only useful things...then my dad had a 1989 Astra it had 5 gears and could run on unleaded...not sure how the 2010 one moved the game on.

All change is not necessarily progress..but sitting in an old car and saying this will do me..doesn't mean all progress made since is null and void.
 
To me, the conversation there is :
Is a 2010 Vauxhall any better that a 2006 gm-FIAT grande

As the owner of a 2007+08grande AND a 2012punto

No ..not really, is the obvious answer

Corrosion resistance was the big leap @2005 ... since then MPG gains ( more gears and StopStart) have happened alongside all those 'unseen' safety improvements..

Adaptive Radar, speed limiters, better materials and restraints maybe.

Its all subjective.. and how many 'all new' models are we seeing now ?

Apart from ground.up new EV 's .. nothing much I suspect.

Ineos Grenadier might make that Astra look good :rolleyes:
 
To me, the conversation there is :
Is a 2010 Vauxhall any better that a 2006 gm-FIAT grande

As the owner of a 2007+08grande AND a 2012punto

No ..not really, is the obvious answer

Corrosion resistance was the big leap @2005 ... since then MPG gains ( more gears and StopStart) have happened alongside all those 'unseen' safety improvements..

Adaptive Radar, speed limiters, better materials and restraints maybe.

Its all subjective.. and how many 'all new' models are we seeing now ?

Apart from ground.up new EV 's .. nothing much I suspect.

Ineos Grenadier might make that Astra look good :rolleyes:
I suppose the question is how we read the original post.

Is it "wow a 2010 Astra is so much better than a 2007 Grande I don't see how cars could have got any better?"

In terms of progress I think last proper jump would have been mandatory ESP. Not that I've used it but it's nice to think that if you find yourself in a situation where the best outcome is a spin and the worst outcome is rolling it makes both significantly less likely.

Progress has continued some good some bad, if auto braking etc worked consistently then they would be a positive but in many ways it's starting to remind me of when I used to work with horses and some days they would do exactly what you wanted and others they would take absolute exception to a bag in a tree...
 
I suppose the question is how we read the original post.

Is it "wow a 2010 Astra is so much better than a 2007 Grande I don't see how cars could have got any better?"

In terms of progress I think last proper jump would have been mandatory ESP. Not that I've used it but it's nice to think that if you find yourself in a situation where the best outcome is a spin and the worst outcome is rolling it makes both significantly less likely.

Progress has continued some good some bad, if auto braking etc worked consistently then they would be a positive but in many ways it's starting to remind me of when I used to work with horses and some days they would do exactly what you wanted and others they would take absolute exception to a bag in a tree...
I think the way “usefully progressed“ has been used was to carefully craft an argument against any improvement in technology over that time.
in which case you could argue that the modern house hasn’t “usefully progressed“ over a mud hut with a old wood burning stove. or that modern anaesthesia hasn’t “usefully progressed“ over a bloke with a mallet
 
To me, the conversation there is :
Is a 2010 Vauxhall any better that a 2006 gm-FIAT grande

As the owner of a 2007+08grande AND a 2012punto

No ..not really, is the obvious answer

Corrosion resistance was the big leap @2005 ... since then MPG gains ( more gears and StopStart) have happened alongside all those 'unseen' safety improvements..

Adaptive Radar, speed limiters, better materials and restraints maybe.

Its all subjective.. and how many 'all new' models are we seeing now ?

Apart from ground.up new EV 's .. nothing much I suspect.

Ineos Grenadier might make that Astra look good :rolleyes:
No, I wasn't thinking about how it compares to my Grande Punto, lol!

What I was actually thinking was more along the lines of I suspect a lot of sheep would call it "hideously outdated", yet it's still safe, comfortable, and whilst the specification isn't to my taste, it certainly isn't poverty spec. Granted, I don't know what the MPG is like, but I suspect that the real world economy isn't as far behind the newer models as what the car industry would want you to believe.

That was all.
 
Don't think anyone is about to argue a 2010 car is not a modern car. In terms of most things while there have been incremental improvements the latest cars would be evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

Think the main reason you'd not want a 12 year old car is...it's been exposed to the elements and UK roads for 12 years so things will have a certain amount of natural decay. Which when you're buying in at that age...you don't necessarily know if the previous owner babied it and treated it like a favoured child or beat it to within an inch of death and decided to punt on when things looked like they were about to get expensive.

Hopefully it treats him better than the Mazda 2 did but these things are not guaranteed when buying older used cars.
 
Don't think anyone is about to argue a 2010 car is not a modern car. In terms of most things while there have been incremental improvements the latest cars would be evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

Think the main reason you'd not want a 12 year old car is...it's been exposed to the elements and UK roads for 12 years so things will have a certain amount of natural decay. Which when you're buying in at that age...you don't necessarily know if the previous owner babied it and treated it like a favoured child or beat it to within an inch of death and decided to punt on when things looked like they were about to get expensive.

Hopefully it treats him better than the Mazda 2 did but these things are not guaranteed when buying older used cars.
Hopefully it should do. The dealer they bought it from is a long established and reputable 1. Plus, unlike the Mazda, the Astra doesn't contain any ford components, lol! 😉
 
Cat brought in a mouse, and promptly lost it under a chair.
Whilst she's starign at the chair, I'm coaxing the mouse into a live trap at the other end of the room.
Cat now thinks we've got one each, and is still looking for hers.
Mouse released to the garden.
 
What I was actually thinking was more along the lines of I suspect a lot of sheep would call it "hideously outdated", yet it's still safe, comfortable, and whilst the specification isn't to my taste, it certainly isn't poverty spec. Granted, I don't know what the MPG is like, but I suspect that the real world economy isn't as far behind the newer models as what the car industry would want you to believe.

Something can be hideously outdated and still do the job it was designed for. A car doesn’t have to have the laser headlights and heated massage seats to get you from A to B.

That said cars of only 5 years old can feel hideously outdated compared to a lot of the electric and hybrid models about.

So a lot of “sheep” or industry experts, journalists and people in the know would call it hideously outdated. You’ve not even said which model it is and the older model still being produced in 2010 was first launched in 2004 that means kids who were not even born what that car was launched are now old enough to drive it!!…… but you don’t think that’s outdated?

Don’t get me wrong, it may be a perfectly good car but that doesn’t make it any less old.
 
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