Self-centring EPS?
Coyld be the computer trying to counteract the reduced rolling radius of Driver's side wheel.
Coyld be the computer trying to counteract the reduced rolling radius of Driver's side wheel.
What's made you not grumpy but not smile either today?
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Mine has also always pulled to the left. Some years ago, I got a full 4-wheel alignment check, which showed the rear axle is the cause, giving a slight push to the right. There have been other posts, and it is almost certainly caused by the hub flange on the left having been welded on not quite straight. Experiments by others to shim the four mounting studs have brought good results. This seems to be a jig problem when the axles are manufactured. Sadly, the copy axles have copied it exactly, so aftermarket replacements are identical.
Many Pandas have the left spring plate lower than the right, and this is copied exactly also.
When I bought my axle, all but one of the little brackets for hoses, cables, etc., were bent. No signs of damaged paint. Then I saw a stack of them, just arrived, all the same. I guess the old axle used as a pattern had suffered bent brackets in transit, so the new ones are identical. They bend straight easily, so quite amusing really.
'sour' owlshit? Are there alternative flavours? Who is tasting the owlshit?
I just don't know.
I do remember the owlshit incident like it was yesterday, tho. It was during the Arab Oil Embargo and Dad needed kerosene for the garage heater, so he sent me to get some. The local station had none. Neither did any of the other ones that we frequented. I ended up going across the state line and found some. Dad never would buy fuel across the state line because it was usually a whole penny more expensive. Anyway, the trip took over 90 minutes and when I finally got home Dad came flying out of the garage, screaming at the top of his lungs about being slower than sour owlshit. When I said I had to go across the state line to get the kerosene, he blew a gasket. I'd had enough of the yelling and blew mine, too. I told him he could get his own crap next time. Both of us were standing there with balled up fists when Mom got between, sent me in the house, and tore Dad a new one. Mom was dropping F-bombs at Dad like a drill sergeant.
Anyway, things were tense in the house for a while after that.
Anyway, things were tense in the house for a while after that.
The Panda Nut
Nutty about Pandas Infected by Panda virus and OPD
If the n/s tyre is over sized, more air in the o/s would bring sizes in to line? Tyres of different batches. MY tyre place slacked the rear beam bolts and mauled it around on my Panda 100 which brought thr rear axle back into reality. This and a really thorough front track put paid to the pulling. Noop very occasionally follows camber especially on rougher road finishes, but this can be to either side. Im sure the 319s are less prone. I agree with irc regarding liklihood of EPS being involved. I have no understanding of the system. Long may it remain so.
I had a front blow out on my Bravo at 100+ a few years back. I dont know if it was steering geometry being good or EPS but it didnt twich from the straight and narrow. Only the noise gave up the near non existent tyre. If it was the EPS, I like EPS even though its horrid!
Thanks for that. however one of the first things i tried was swapping the front wheels side for side and it didn't change anything.
Must put a warning here... if this post offends you, I regretfully ask that you simply ignore it and remain happy and calm.
...but a beautiful grey 2019 Panda 4x4 (TwinAir) has just come up for sale at our only Fiat dealer... 13,500 miles for just under 10k.
I might have to drop in next week on the way to the Lexus hybrid check. Given the amount of issues I've had (covered by warranty..for now)... justifying this feels easier than ever
...but a beautiful grey 2019 Panda 4x4 (TwinAir) has just come up for sale at our only Fiat dealer... 13,500 miles for just under 10k.
I might have to drop in next week on the way to the Lexus hybrid check. Given the amount of issues I've had (covered by warranty..for now)... justifying this feels easier than ever
The Panda Nut
Nutty about Pandas Infected by Panda virus and OPD
Common sense is returning. Mind you bills are nearly as big. Go on just do it.. You know its right!Must put a warning here... if this post offends you, I regretfully ask that you simply ignore it and remain happy and calm.
...but a beautiful grey 2019 Panda 4x4 (TwinAir) has just come up for sale at our only Fiat dealer... 13,500 miles for just under 10k.
I might have to drop in next week on the way to the Lexus hybrid check. Given the amount of issues I've had (covered by warranty..for now)... justifying this feels easier than ever
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I’m not sure how likely it is… but if they offer me a straight trade or not far off it, I might go for it. At least with the Panda even an engine repair is something I can afford parts for and do myself
Erm...wild idea.
Keep the Toyota/Lexus for being an adult
Get something like that to bash around in..
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Sell it when you get itchy feet again.
You're kidding yourself if you're thinking you'll be fixing a TA 4x4 yourself if anything engine goes and it's much cheaper than taking another bath on another car change.
Keep the Toyota/Lexus for being an adult
Get something like that to bash around in..
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Sell it when you get itchy feet again.
You're kidding yourself if you're thinking you'll be fixing a TA 4x4 yourself if anything engine goes and it's much cheaper than taking another bath on another car change.
...also very, very valid points.Erm...wild idea.
Keep the Toyota/Lexus for being an adult
Get something like that to bash around in..
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Sell it when you get itchy feet again.
You're kidding yourself if you're thinking you'll be fixing a TA 4x4 yourself if anything engine goes and it's much cheaper than taking another bath on another car change.
Well the panda remains the car you've sold twice for other cars.
If you buy another it will still be a panda.
Given it didn't fit your lifestyle then and apparently nothing has changed since it's still not going to work as an only car.
So perhaps pick up a cheap one as a toy at which point it will actually be simple and easy to work on because it's not a twin air with a 4wd system and worst comes to the worst...the most money it can lose is 750 quid.
It can then be a little fun car to tool about in...rather than the car you're in all the time that needs to work every day for everything.
The Panda Nut
Nutty about Pandas Infected by Panda virus and OPD
I often wonder if Jeronimo changed his horse as often as men change cars. Did he get a differnt coloured horse or one with5 legs... 
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If the car is just a means of getting to and from work, the occasional local trip and shopping trip then for the vast majority of people the financial cost of ownership is less of an issue and more important is getting in the car in the morning and the thing starting.
Staying “I can fix it myself” if all well and good if you can afford to be without a car for a week or two while you do the work, and then there is having the space/place to do the work.
Most people with any sort of normal full time job don’t want to be going into the office on a bike with dirty fingernails because the car is in bits all over the garden.
If it’s a hobby or interest to muck about with cars, that’s fine but you still need the space resources and time to work on the car, and for most people the financial burden of having a second car is more than most are ready to stomach
Not that my wife is a little hormonal at the minute..
Getting some cash out today and a scally approaches to make conversation which to be fair is suspect.. her opening gambit in this situation? "**** off"
Getting some cash out today and a scally approaches to make conversation which to be fair is suspect.. her opening gambit in this situation? "**** off"
Does this mean I am as hormonal as a heavily pregnant woman 100% of the time ?
Don’t answer that !
Is the correct answer "No dear"?
