What's made you not grumpy but not smile either today?

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What's made you not grumpy but not smile either today?

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I quite like a triple, I'd say ours sounds fairly similar to a six.

The only thing that comes to mind when I hear a TA is a 2cv..
Shortly after I'd bought the Ibiza - 3 cylinder - I had this strange feeling I'd heard something like it before. Then it dawned on me, when pulling hard, it sounds almost exactly like the V6 Dodge people carrier my daughter used to run around in when they lived in the States.
 
Oh yessss, I compltely agree. I shall tell everyone that mine is half an Alfa boxer.... Its certainly a weird little beast and the most effective 875cc Ive ever come across. The Honda N600 we had was 38bhp down graded from around 50 of the early cars and it was a real quick little thing, but the TA is more effective with the low down grunt to bely its size. Now I understand it, and have got used to it I can have eithr 100mph or 60mpg and that is impressive. It wont do both together, and at speed ts downright greedy, but I can forgive it for having the power to get out of trouble if needed and fair economy, I enjoy using the torque for cruising at 50 to 60mph and getting the economy it can deliver when you get it right. I also love the way it goes up big hills, but I would rather it was a bit less vocal though, Sometimes its embarrasing! My Google location records thinks its a scooter......
Neighbour across the road has an aging twin air 500. flat grey with black alloy wheels - looks quite "mean". however it sounds like an absolute bag of old nails when started from cold. Not nearly so noisy when she returns home with it hot though.
 
o suped up ride on mower reminds me of back in the 70s racing at wisborough green west sussex whith people like racing driver derek bell and a few other stars went to brans hatch clocked out of the tunnel doing 33 miles a hour on the atco rideon mower .mowermender
During my Firtestone years I did tyres for Derek on the likes of the John Wyre Porsche 917. What a nice chap he was, a real gentleman.
 
I was once told a good mechanic makes a poor car salesman, the reason being they see all the faults on a vehicle and fix them, whereas the salesman does the minimum of cosmetic work and sells for max. profit and when subsequently faults are noticed denies they were there when purchased, and when looking at vehicles on behalf of my customers I have found that ethos from "private" sellers all the way up to and including Main Dealers.
This included offers rejected by me, that if my customer bought the vehicle the salesman would see me alright for a "drink".:(
Aye Mike. After Firestone closed down the European Racing Operation they were very good to us lads in the racing division and offered us all jobs elsewhere in the setup. I could have gone to Firestone Europa but that meant a move to Luxembourg and both our parents were seriously ill at that time so we needed to stay close by. In fact they all four died over the space of the next two years, probably the saddest time in our married life. I joined the Tyre and Auto operation as workshop manager of one of the branches. Boy was that a rude awakening to the motor trade. I never settled to the aggressive, bonus driven, financial aspect of it all. Of course this was still in the west London area so not that near to both our families who were in Edinburgh and the Scottish borders. Then one day, when we were up on one of our numerous visits home, The local DAF dealer, Niddrie Mill garage Co, offered me the position of car salesman. This meant we could move back to Scotland and be near our failing parents so I jumped at it. I've always been quite a "chatty" person and with my knowledge of cars I was soon in charge of doing the part ex valuations as well as selling. In fact, apart from Ronnie, the bosses son, I was the only salesman they had. If you walked into our showroom chances were it'd be me who would greet you. I actually did quite well financially at it but my heart wasn't in it. I really loved the DAFs but some of the trade ins I had to sell bothered me as they were cars I wouldn't buy under almost any circumstances - I'm not saying they were rubbish cars, I prided myself that all our used cars were in as good condition as they could be and I tended not to argue too much if a customer returned with a complaint, I've replaced tyres etc when I really didn't legally need to, and it payed off because I had a strong return customer record - In fact, when I moved on back into a workshop job (at the BL dealer in Musselburgh) a few of "my customers" from the DAF garage turned up in reception wanting to talk to me about buying a car! Anyway, I really missed the whole workshop "thing" not just the technical aspect of being on the tools but also the never ending "Manly Craic" and leg pulls of workshop life. The sales environment was all a bit too "gentile" for me.

At the DAF garage we had a very active petrol forecourt which faced onto the main road going out of town. A couple of miles down the road from us was a very big main dealer who was well known for maximizing his profits on used car sales. Nothing was ever renewed that wasn't actually hanging off the car. Our workshops did very well from it repairing these vehicles later on when they failed their MOT. But, one of their favourite "tricks" was to hand used cars over to their new owners with hardly even a "sniff" of fuel in the tank. Our petrol staion kept a small stack of one gallon cans for lending out to the poor unfortunates who regularly arrived on foot to buy a gallon to put in their "new" car. It became quite a game betting on whether the car would then turn up at the pumps some ten minutes or so later to fill up, with one of this dealer's stickers in the back window.

Mind you, although undoubtedly some dealers could do with preparing used cars better, it's as nothing compared to the way some customers would try to disguise a problem with the car they were trying to trade in. I think the trade in general has a big problem with public image and therefore the public think we're fair game and it's quite Ok to try to "outwit" us at trade in time.
 
I liked the Dino, technically not a Ferrari and the GT4, which used to be despised by the Ferrari purests…but I’m Firmly in the Panda and 128 camp despite having loads of Fiats from 127 to 131 and unos to puntos and Tipo. I’ve also had a prisma ‘symbol’, Nivas, LR’s, pickups, Skoda Rapide, Cherokee XJ, Astra estate van and a fiesta (for two weeks) but almost always with a panda tucked away 🤔
My best man bought a Dino: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/dino-246-gt way back in the late 60's/early 70's. I never did get a ride in it but I remember being absolutely shocked when he told me how much it cost for just a simple service, and he had to take it to a dealer up on the other side of the Forth.
 
BMW are at it too the x18d x20d and x25d all have the same basic engine, a 2.0 litre diesel
Was looking around online at various cars for sale the other day. Found a 2016 golf with the same 2.0 litre Diesel as mine with only 109hp, mine is 150hp and you can open it up to 200hp with no ill effects with the right software and a engine management software flash.

My brother sent one of his customers 88hp Transporter vans to the tuning place on the same estate as his business, and it came back with 180hp with zero mechanical changes.

I support at 88hp it probably would have never been stressed or pushed to its limit and would have lasted way longer than the body of the van would have, had it not been converted to a camper.
 
My best man bought a Dino: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/dino-246-gt way back in the late 60's/early 70's. I never did get a ride in it but I remember being absolutely shocked when he told me how much it cost for just a simple service, and he had to take it to a dealer up on the other side of the Forth.
I brought one from our Bradford dealer to the Leeds and back again after I’d done some electrical work on it, would you believe it, standard earth faults everywhere! Not super fast, even by contemporary standards, but it handled far better than the mondial did.
Out of the three, I liked the Fiat Dino Coupe the best. A proper grand tourer and you did feel like a Mafia boss!
 
I support at 88hp it probably would have never been stressed or pushed to its limit and would have lasted way longer than the body of the van would have, had it not been converted to a camper.

This may be why I've not turned the wick up on ours...

The Turbo is only pushing about 75% of what it could do entirely safely in a different car, the block is nowhere near what it can manage, fuel system is nowhere near stressed keeping up. Also the body weighs about 2-400kg less than most cars it's fitted to.

As a result zero Fs are given about firing everything once it's warm as even at full throttle at peak power/torque it's not taxed at all, soon as you hit that, ECU opens the waste gate opens and limits the boost, to stop it generating more power. Handy given it hits that at less than 1500rpm and holds it for 2500rpm giving a flat torque curve for more than 50% of the available rev range but it's entirely overbuilt for what it's doing.
 
Next doors daughter turned 17 recently. She is starting to learn to drive. Dad is keen to teach. Insurance he tells me is only available by the mile and 500 miles costs £294. So if you can afford £40/hr for lessons, 50p a mile for insurance, road tax and £35,000 for the compulsory electric car we must all have then you will be able to buy the car and travel to work. Costs of motoring are getting beyond normal people.
Probably explains why many of our kid's friends don't drive. I bought ours a cheapish car each, about £1000, and reasoning going out with them 25 or so times instead of driving instructor pays for the car.

I say cheap car, then start replacing anything and everything that wasn't quite perfect.

Also meant they could start their own insurance with no claims while learners, and was quite a bit cheaper as a learner since they'd have a parent in the car. Some of the prices you hear for insurance are enough to put you off for life.
 
Probably explains why many of our kid's friends don't drive. I bought ours a cheapish car each, about £1000, and reasoning going out with them 25 or so times instead of driving instructor pays for the car.

I say cheap car, then start replacing anything and everything that wasn't quite perfect.

Also meant they could start their own insurance with no claims while learners, and was quite a bit cheaper as a learner since they'd have a parent in the car. Some of the prices you hear for insurance are enough to put you off for life.
My renewal invitation just dropped through the letter box today £360 as against 280 last year. This is fully comp, living in a big city and with nationwide recovery green flag breakdown insurance included. A big jump up but maybe not too bad when I look at what some of my kids are paying? It's a couple of weeks to renewal date so I'll do a quick comparison site search just to be happy.
 
Neighbour across the road has an aging twin air 500. flat grey with black alloy wheels - looks quite "mean". however it sounds like an absolute bag of old nails when started from cold. Not nearly so noisy when she returns home with it hot though.
Needs to get the right oil and I hazard it would sound better. Both our 1.2s were appalling with the main recommended oil. Both are thankfully undamaged by that and now running reasonably on Castrol Edge. Or maybe it is just screaming for an oil change.
My renewal invitation just dropped through the letter box today £360 as against 280 last year. This is fully comp, living in a big city and with nationwide recovery green flag breakdown insurance included. A big jump up but maybe not too bad when I look at what some of my kids are paying? It's a couple of weeks to renewal date so I'll do a quick comparison site search just to be happy.
I have all thtree Pandas with Cornhill Insurance this year. £250 a car but no breakdown as I use GEM. Insurance was available for less but with companies I know to be difficult and slow paying, My sister used to work for Budget Insurance for example. She did not get a good deal and did not recomend them either, I think 33% rise is stoking inflation I shoiuld seek an alternative and tell the straight that its an iunacceptable level of increase. What possible justification can there be for such a ridiculous rise. We could have easily got insurance under £200 per car through Meerkat Insurance.. Always challengthem, I am sure you do I think I saved around £300 by challenging the rise this year. So about £100 per car. I dont mind them having a ridse as inlation is a reality but 33% is a straight p*** take by an inflation stoker!
 
I have all thtree Pandas with Cornhill Insurance this year. £250 a car but no breakdown as I use GEM. Insurance was available for less but with companies I know to be difficult and slow paying, My sister used to work for Budget Insurance for example. She did not get a good deal and did not recomend them either, I think 33% rise is stoking inflation I shoiuld seek an alternative and tell the straight that its an iunacceptable level of increase. What possible justification can there be for such a ridiculous rise. We could have easily got insurance under £200 per car through Meerkat Insurance.
Probably should have said that's for the Ibiza. Mrs J drives the Panda more than me so she insures it. Also the breakdown cover is pretty much all singing all dancing so I feel less anxious about our trips down south. When we get too infirm to take on the long trips any more I'll cancel the breakdown insurance and rely on a trusted local 24 hour call out company who come out on call for £75 a time and will trailer the car home if needed.
 
Mrs Panda Nut poking about in the newly emptied wheelie bin today. SO I ask what ARE you doing. Oh Im cleaning it out....

After politely telling her to clear off, I took teh thing down to the drive and got the pressure washer on it. My goodness was it a disgusting thing. I scraped it with a hoe and got a bucket of rank smelling stuff put, cleaned and bleached it and all is now well. I did suggest that she might consider what she keeps a man for if its not for dealing with stinking bins...

I spent a year cleaning wheelie bins a while ago after redundancy rendered us incomeless. Quite satisfying if pretty disgusting passtime. I used to get all the damaged bins, clean them and refurbish so its not an issue for me. Im immune to all the diseases they carry now.

Mext job treating front fence and gates with wood stuff. And, this should be in the grumpy thread. I have a fence sprayer (Ronseal brand) its a pressure sprayer designed for this very job. As Noop my dear TA 4x4 went to hospital today to get his split front bumper repaired I am carless, and its a good thing or Aldi would have had their sprayable fence life treatment retyrned untill they would have needed a proctologist to extract it. SPrayable my ****! I defy anyone upto the Lord God himself to make that rubbisg go through a sprayer. Its probably the worst product of its kind I have ever come across. They will be geting it back soon and I shall be letting them know if any more goers on sale in the localm shop it will be a traading standards job. IS there anyone who had found a fence treatment product that will spray? I must say I have been either unlucky orsomehting with all the ones I have tried, I recently bought some environmentally kind creosote, How the can call it creosote I fail to understand. I take it the lon ;lasting colour description is meant to have a rider to go wiht the environmentally beneficial credential??? MAybe something like long lasting colour and effective control of rot IF APPLIED WEEKLY.I want a nice big drum of good old fashioned creosote! Brings back memories of starting as PArks MAnager in WOrcester in the mid 80's. AFter weeks of demanding access to the inner sanctum of my depot, I found them to be hiding about 100 45 gallon dri=ums of green creosote. All the barrels were riusted almost through, heaven knows what we would have done if these had burst. I think it was left from the war as the site was a former airbase. Iwent after the word went out that ir=t was available (feree) to anyone turining up with suitable conatiners. We had sme labels made with safetyinformation and a discalimer form and most of it was moved on untill a sensible amount could be transferred to a suitable storage tank, The stories I could tell about that palce would make a damned good commedy series for the TV!
 
Noop has his jaw and teeth repaired, Another job at Nick Ashotns (Ashtons Classics - Dereham Norfolk) and againg I cnat see any evidence of where it has been touched. It looks as good as it did brand new 4 and a half years ago.
 

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The army of tractors running round the village is vaguely hilarious.

Weather is meant to break on Friday and be wet until next Friday.

Clearly they want everything in before then, and have dragged literally anything that can run out of the barn harvester or mower wise and some of the tractors may literally be antique but are dragging trailers of bales about.

They've not done the large cornfield opposite me yet, expecting they'll do it over night as I'd bet they ain't sleeping much.
 
The army of tractors running round the village is vaguely hilarious.

Weather is meant to break on Friday and be wet until next Friday.

Clearly they want everything in before then, and have dragged literally anything that can run out of the barn harvester or mower wise and some of the tractors may literally be antique but are dragging trailers of bales about.

They've not done the large cornfield opposite me yet, expecting they'll do it over night as I'd bet they ain't sleeping much.
Same here…but, like most farmers, it’s a team thing with a few farmers that do the cutting/turning/baling for everyone in the area!
 
Clearly they want everything in before then, and have dragged literally anything that can run out of the barn harvester or mower wise and some of the tractors may literally be antique but are dragging trailers of bales about.
That immediately brought to mind the farmer next door to us when we were kids. He used a big Nuffield - seemed big back in those days, quite small compared ot the monsters of today - to haul the harvester/bailer (no combines then) and a Field Marshal with a big trailer to take the bales back up the valley to the farm. The noise the single cylinder Field Marshal made was absolutely unique and you could hear it for miles as it pulled the heavily laden trailer up the hill. The most amazing thing about it was that it was started with a blank 12 bore cartridge!



The exhaust had a real "crack" to it, maybe needed a new silencer? but the sound of it pulling hard up the hill was wonderful!



DPF? what's that?
 
That immediately brought to mind the farmer next door to us when we were kids. He used a big Nuffield - seemed big back in those days, quite small compared ot the monsters of today - to haul the harvester/bailer (no combines then) and a Field Marshal with a big trailer to take the bales back up the valley to the farm. The noise the single cylinder Field Marshal made was absolutely unique and you could hear it for miles as it pulled the heavily laden trailer up the hill. The most amazing thing about it was that it was started with a blank 12 bore cartridge!



The exhaust had a real "crack" to it, maybe needed a new silencer? but the sound of it pulling hard up the hill was wonderful!



DPF? what's that?

Quite a few old engines had cartridge starts and some really big ones had a paraffin/petrol donkey engine to start them. The whitbred brewery had a WWI submarine engine, as motive power originally then used as a generator, which had a truck engine as a starter. Once it was ‘wound up’ the submarine engine would burst Ito life and shake the building.
It remained in the brewery till the early eighties
 
The local steam show starts up here tomorrow. A lot of Case and Farquhar steam tractors, big ol’ Rumley Oil Pulls, Deeres and Deerings as far as the eye can see, even a couple of Porsche tractors, but I’ve yet to see a Field Marshall. Truth be told, I go for the coal smoke, bratwurst, sweet corn, and flea market.
 
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