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Not at all I didnt know and now understand the reason for the silly starter position. Thankyou. Now I know to avoid tools with starter isn odd places. I was an Grounds Management for 20 years and bought thousands of these sort of things and learned that yoiu get exctly what you pay for. Eventually I used to insist on deals that were one year and return for stirmmers and the like. We wrecked a few but probably got 30% back overall. The accountants used to want these things to be bought and paid for over 10 years and it took a lot of insistence to put a stop to that mentality, The bigger ride ion machines I used to return on a similar basis every three years much to their angst. However I worked out that you get one year with warranty and replacement machine on down time, a second year when the machine had settled and bedded in that was nearly trouble free and a third year when things started to wear and go wrong. If you keot the machines beyond this they were trouble. When you need them working 50 hours a week continuous dowtime is extortionately expensive and overall we saved a huge amount of money this way. Three year old mowers were refurbed and sold on to sports clubs and the likes where useage was much lighter and it seemed to work well.

On this tool, iIf the screw head was still there I could change the cord easily enough. I shall see if I can fix the multi tool just so I can say it didnt beat me, but I have more or less decided to buy a battery mower and get a hedge cutter thrown in. There are so many deals I think this is possible. Electric mowers are wildly expensive the eGo one I like best is £700 which is an outrage for a big elctric drill and a mower blade. Its a really nice tool though you can drive it along with the blade off which is good for crossing gravel drives etc. It also has variable speed control and is nicely made. My boy has a set of their kit in New York and its now about 5 years old. His garden has some steeply soped bits and is pretty big so its had a thorough test, no issues and the same batteries still going. Hes got hedge trimmer, strimmer, pole saw, and snow blower and is happy with all of them. But £700 is a HELL of a lot for a mower.

Hyundai are doing an 80v mower with self propulsion for £400 which looks like a good deal and it has a 3 year warranty thats better than most of these things. Most cheap makes are under 36v and cannot have the capacity or power that the 80v should offer. No middle men either as you can buy direct from Hyundai. They have a central parts department too which bodes well. (Unlike Lawnflite who I would never buy from again) I like the idea of a lighter weight mower too as my health is going south and Im thinking of things Mrs could use if I cant or am not here any more. Thats a bit salutory but also pragmatic.
I've mentioned before that when I got "early retirement" from my job as trainer/assessor (it was complicated and difficult to describe what my official job title actually was towards the end, bit of a "know it all jack of all trades because I'd been there so long" and they called it "early retirement" when, more accurately it could have been described as "got rid off because he's costing us too much" (I was on the top of the salary scale and could claim all sorts of expenses when away from base too) Shortly after I left they hired two youngsters at a fraction of what I was probably costing them - but could they do the job? I didn't hang around to help sort it out!

Anyway, having taken the very reasonable package and having my pension enhanced up to the same value as it would have been if I'd stayed 'till I reached 65, I pottered about for a few months but soon got bored, put the word about I was looking for work and very shortly was contacted by a chap I used to liaise with in my previous job. Would I like to look after his gardening squad? and, as he knew I was good with machinery, look after the machines too. Hell yes, I love gardening and even more have been messing about with horticultural machines most of my life, staring with the old, 2 cylinder JAP petrol/Paraffin engine cultivator used in my Dad's market garden (he wasn't a physical man but financed the venture and owned the land)

So I spent the next 15 years looking after a squad of 6 mild to moderately learning disabled gardeners. We mowed grass, lots of it, cultivated allotments, trimmed hedges, strimmed "unmowable" banks, etc, etc. we did this very professionally and charged for our services, we were much in demand and were a major revenue raiser for our organisation.

I loved my days out in all weathers with the lads on the job and lust as much loved the machinery maintenance. The chap who had been doing the job before me was a very good gardener but not much cop with the machines which were old and, mostly, on their last legs. Maintenance was done by a local company but financial constraints meant they were seen once a year or when they became non runners. One of the best things I did was to become friend with owner of the garden machinery workshop and, with his knowledge of parts prices, we did an appraisal of what might be worth spending some money on and continuing to run.

I quickly discovered that the spares setup with horticultural stuff doesn't work like the factoring setup in the motor trade and some parts can be surprisingly expensive. I also found, very quickly, that parts for cheap "DIY" standard stuff is often unobtainable. The first couple of years were quite "busy" with me spending almost as much time fixing machines which were always breaking down and begging management for the money to replace them when they became impossible to repair any more.

By about year 3 and into year 4 I was getting things pretty well sorted out. We had a couple of small "Harry" rotary mowers 16" cut, for going round borders and an 18" Rover for small jobs - private gardens mostly. For the larger jobs we had three 21" self powered Masports. I'd bought one as an experiment after being talked into it at the Royal Highland Show where the salesman was extolling the virtues of their swing blades - I used to make a point of treating the lads to a day out at the show every year as a thank you - These were quite commercially orientated machines with cast iron bore Briggs sidevalve engines and good spares backup. I was so impressed by it's performance over that first year that I junked the old 21" Hondas I'd inherited and bought two more Masports! Those machines were still going strong, used daily through the season, some 10 years later when I retired properly.

For really big jobs we had a Ferris ride on. One of these:



Our's had the V twin Briggs engine which, when it was ticking over, sounded just like a Harley! This was the only machine I really carried over from the inherited fleet and was a real beast of a machine. Operators spent a week with me learning it before I would let them loose on it. Unfortunately the second year I was there I got over confident - it was so maneoverable you could dodge in and around things so quickly - and we were running late on a big meadow that had to be cut for a church event the next day - and i just slightly cut a corner near a wall and caught the wall with the N/S drive wheel. It broke the axle casing but not the axle itself. The mess was awful, all the hydraulic oil drained out and we had to get a wee wheeled dolly to manhandle the machine back out of the meadow onto our big trailer. took it back to the shop and got Jim (the maintenance contractor) to quote for repair but it was hopelessly expensive. I wasn't a popular person for quite a while. The boss authorized a cheaper replacement to keep us going. a Machine called a "Simplicity" which was a mechanically driven walk behind, bit like a Skag, if you know your mowers? but it simply had a differential in the middle of the axle. This meant the wheels were not individually powered so you couldn't steer it as you can a Skag with it's individually powered wheels. The simplicity was an absolute beast to manage on anything but the smoothest of surfaces. A day in the back meadow with it left you absolutely done in! Here's one which is almost identical to the one we had:



What doesn't come across in this video is how it wanted to just go it's own way all the time and you had to be constantly correcting it to keep it going where you wanted it. On the similar Skag, because each driving wheel is independently powered you can steer an control it with the hand controls so very little physical effort is used in directing it.

Anyway, after a year of fighting this machine I thought to myself "Jock, you have dismantled and rebuilt Borg Warner type 35 and 65 gearboxes, rebuilt engines and much more, don't be a wimp, lets strip down the old Ferris and see if it's doable without special tooling and if so let's get a list of parts priced up". So I did, in secret after the lads had gone home. Never worked on a hydradrive before and boy was it interesting. In the end the parts, including a new axle casting, cost about £250 and had to come direct from the U.S. - would cost more today I'm sure - but within 6 months of starting the job and only doing a couple of hours a week on it, the Ferris was up and running again! From that moment on my employer authorized me to do all repairs and maintenance on the machines - I had to provide him with copies of my city and guilds mechanics/technicians certificates for insurance purposes.

Of course we also had strimmer/brush cutters, hedge cutters, leaf blowers (don't bother with sucking them up, but it's very useful to be able to blow them) Teaching people with learning difficulty to use a leaf blower was always a hilarious procedure with both the student and myself often laughing so much we would have to sit down and start again!

Those years were a big learning curve for me. There's quite a lot of not very well designed or made DIY quality kit around. The half crank design we talked about above is very common on cheaper kit and is cheaper to make than a full crank. In my experience they don't last as long but I think that's down to them often being cheaply made with cheaper components rather than the actual design itself and you tend, because of the cost factor, to find then at the DIY end of the market. Personally I steer away from them and they are very easy to identify due to the position of the pull start, However, in their defence, a professional gardener I know well has had one of Ryobi's half crank hedge cutters for years and it was still going strong last time I ran into her. Possibly maintenance is as important as the actual machine itself - horticultural machines tend to be dreadfully abused.

We had a combination of Echo, Kawaski, Stihl and Danarm strimmers, hedge cutters, blowers etc and one "Ideal" branded strimmer with a Kawasaki engine. I bought one of the Echo blowers, one of the Danarm hedge cutters and the Ideal strimmer from them when I retired. all 3 machines were being sold off because they no longer complied with the "white finger" vibration regulations and I've continued for the last 12 ears, since I retired, to use them without any of my didgets falling off!

One really big lesson I learned from all of this is that it's no use buying a machine which is not well supported for spares. If you can't get a new throttle cable, dead mans handle cable, blade bolt/boss, cutting blade, woodruff key for the flywheel (which sheared when the engine backfired?) etc, etc, then don't buy it. My Ideal strimmer is a case in point. All the kawasaki engine parts are available but the strimmer specific parts will be a nightmare if I ever need any. So stuff like the bevel gear head, centrifugal clutch parts, etc. No one I've talked to local to me has ever heard of this "Ideal" manufacturer, although I did find an assistant in Lowe's in Maryland who had heard of it when I was in looking for bits for my daughters mower about 10 years ago!

So, unlike you Panda Nut, we saved a small fortune by keeping our machines running for years, I think the Masports were on for about 15 years and the Ferris and Simplicity were still going right up until the day our parent organisation decided it didn't want to be involved in grounds maintenance any more. The big difference of course was that with me doing all the repair and maintenance it was really just the cost of parts and materials that had to be taken into account.

D'yu know? although I'm well infected with the automotive virus, and especially the Panda strain, I've never enjoyed my work any more than when I was out, with my learning disabled lads, in the fresh air, even if sometimes we were soaked to the skin and smelling of leaf bonfire smoke. My brief period with Firestone on the race circuits runs it pretty close, especially in the excitement stakes, but working with the characters in that squad? wonderful!
 
Half crank engine.... Yes exactly as shown, jusr a plastic bung over the open crank case!. Well the story endeth. Thanks for that Jock. I drilled the clutch drum retaining screw out and got the clutch drum off and the starter was easy enough. It may actually have been rivetted on. Oddly the starter had 2 recoil springs, Ive never seen that before. I retapped the end of the crank but didnt think too hard about the size of the hole drilled..... Net result is I drilled it too big and the perfect bolt / screw I had was too fat to pass down the end of the clutch drum drive end. I could have got around this but decided the whole thing was so ramshackle I couldnt be ar***! Modded as well it was just not worth pursuing. I really needed a new clutch drum and these are c£20 too.

Along with the half crank engine they made the clutch drum un servicable by putting the screw in then the drum bearing / bush and welding a big washer over to hold it all in place. Thats REAL penny pinching. It all seems pretty sad as a multi tool could and should do a lot of work and should have serviceabbility to a reasonable extent. I could have plugged the crank and redrilled a small hole tapped to the size of the clutch screw but I `think I will just look for a new one and see if I can make a few £ selling the parts of this thing. If I do this I shall consign my 53 year old Xenoah strimmer to recycling as well. The fuel tank has worn through so its a bit of a risk using it!!. That may have some parts value too. I may possibly give this machine to the local Museum of Rural life as it was probably one of the first 100 strimmer seen in the UK. It will free up some space so there are benefits. I have a 5 year old 30" hedge trimmer in pretty near perfect nick I can sell off at the same time so The overall cost of a new multi tool will be sensible. No more half crank engines for me. I suspect the high levels of vibration are closely related to the engine design.

My stock of nuts and bolts gets bigger. Moral of the tale is you get what you pay for.
 
Half crank engine.... Yes exactly as shown, jusr a plastic bung over the open crank case!. Well the story endeth. Thanks for that Jock. I drilled the clutch drum retaining screw out and got the clutch drum off and the starter was easy enough. It may actually have been rivetted on. Oddly the starter had 2 recoil springs, Ive never seen that before. I retapped the end of the crank but didnt think too hard about the size of the hole drilled..... Net result is I drilled it too big and the perfect bolt / screw I had was too fat to pass down the end of the clutch drum drive end. I could have got around this but decided the whole thing was so ramshackle I couldnt be ar***! Modded as well it was just not worth pursuing. I really needed a new clutch drum and these are c£20 too.

Along with the half crank engine they made the clutch drum un servicable by putting the screw in then the drum bearing / bush and welding a big washer over to hold it all in place. Thats REAL penny pinching. It all seems pretty sad as a multi tool could and should do a lot of work and should have serviceabbility to a reasonable extent. I could have plugged the crank and redrilled a small hole tapped to the size of the clutch screw but I `think I will just look for a new one and see if I can make a few £ selling the parts of this thing. If I do this I shall consign my 53 year old Xenoah strimmer to recycling as well. The fuel tank has worn through so its a bit of a risk using it!!. That may have some parts value too. I may possibly give this machine to the local Museum of Rural life as it was probably one of the first 100 strimmer seen in the UK. It will free up some space so there are benefits. I have a 5 year old 30" hedge trimmer in pretty near perfect nick I can sell off at the same time so The overall cost of a new multi tool will be sensible. No more half crank engines for me. I suspect the high levels of vibration are closely related to the engine design.

My stock of nuts and bolts gets bigger. Moral of the tale is you get what you pay for.
It's silly how the penny pinchers can ruin what is otherwise a reasonable design of machine. Jim used to say he wouldn't get involved with trying to repair these budget machines as they often ended up with him having to make or adapt parts to fit and the labour and general hassle just ruled the whole job out.

A friend gave me his not very old strimmer to have a look at a couple of years ago because the pull was jammed - cord was still intact but the pull was jammed up. When I dismantled it The drum round which the cord was wound ran on a plain plastic spigot in the end case. No ball races or anything, just plastic on plastic. It had worn the bore of the drum and the spigot so badly that the drum now rubbed against the casing and the harder you pulled the more it was pulled off centre so the harder it jammed itself into the casing! Just to be sure the engine was a runner I separated the engine at the clutch end and spun it up with a socket on my electric drill on the centre crankshaft nut. It started and ran well. Could I find a new end case and starter recoil? Not a chance. In the end I cut a strip of plastic from a plastic sheet and wound it round the worn spigot so it used up the play, like a bushing. I stuffed some silicon grease in too and it actually worked pretty well. My guess would be that, if it's still working, it'll be about time for it to be failing again right now. What a silly bit of penny pinching though.

Talking about really old strimmers. Over the years I've helped with a number of house/shed clearances when people have either moved and left stuff behind the new house owner didn't want or helped take stuff to the rubbish, now called recycling, tip. I've "won" a few really useful things this way. One was a really big powerful brush cutter. It wouldn't start but all that was wrong was the HT "coil" had come loose so the gap to the flywheel was all wrong. Just eyeballing a gap so it looked about the same as a Briggs, tighten the bolts and away she went! It had an engine about twice the size of any other I've ever seen and a four string head on the "business" end. I was later to find that with a blade on the end it was as good as any circular saw! Magic for clearing heavy brush. It's downside was it was so heavy that you had to use a harness - it was uncontrollable without - but even so the weight coupled with the violence of the machine when in use meant I couldn't do more than about 20 minutes without a rest. It was a beast! It did have one big drawback though. It had a gravity fed tank, mounted ABOVE the engine. This meant, of course, it couldn't be angled very much or the engine would missfire and cut out but also you had to drain it after use of the fuel would leak out onto the floor over night through the needlevalve in the carb. A new needle valve or adding an inline fuel tap would probably have been the thing to do but I found it so unwieldy to use and I had other lighter weight machines I preferred that I sold it on Gumtree and made enough to treat the family to a day in a country park and an ice cream! It always worried me too, that with the tank above the engine and being gravity fed so the carb might flood and with the engine being out of sight behind me when in use, that it might flood and set fire to the fuel and tank and I'd have known nothing about it until I was on fire! moving it on was for the best I think.
 
Oddly the starter had 2 recoil springs, Ive never seen that before.
Would have been a first for me too, and I've had quite a few of these small engines in pieces over the years.

I retapped the end of the crank but didnt think too hard about the size of the hole drilled..... Net result is I drilled it too big and the perfect bolt / screw I had was too fat to pass down the end of the clutch drum drive end. I could have got around this but decided the whole thing was so ramshackle I couldnt be ar***! Modded as well it was just not worth pursuing. I really needed a new clutch drum and these are c£20 too.
You sound exactly like me. I've often spent ages trying to mend something only to find a part I've modified won't then fit back onto the thing I'm trying to sort! Quite fun trying to do it though as long as you accept you may not win the battle!

Along with the half crank engine they made the clutch drum un servicable by putting the screw in then the drum bearing / bush and welding a big washer over to hold it all in place. Thats REAL penny pinching. It all seems pretty sad as a multi tool could and should do a lot of work and should have serviceabbility to a reasonable extent.
My guess is that they slap them together as cheaply as they possibly can, 5p saved on 100,000 or more items adds up to a lot, and they don't expect anyone to even think about mending them. Applies across the board these days, try buying something for a supermarket brand power tool - very hit and miss, you might get lucky if it's something like commutator brushes but a head bearing for an electric drill? Ha, Ha ,Ha! The throw away mentality!

I suspect the high levels of vibration are closely related to the engine design.

My stock of nuts and bolts gets bigger. Moral of the tale is you get what you pay for.
Now I think about it I think you're right about the vibration factor on half crank engines, I've noticed that too. Or maybe they just don't bother to balance crank/rod/piston assemblies to the same extent as the more expensive machines?
 
I've got a 20+ year old Honda 4-stroke Strummer, which just keeps going. I've also got 4 (well probably 3 and a half) generic 2-stroke ones which I've been given by family members when they stopped working over the years.
Every single one lasted less than 3 years, and then refused to start. Only one was worn enough to actually have a real problem - like Jocks, the pull start failed because it was made out of cheese (well, plastic, but Cheddar might have lasted better).
I did think about picking the best bits out of the pile and making one (or two) good ones, but they really are horrible engineering, and I have never bothered so far.
One thing I have noticed is that all of them have age cracks in the fuel line, including the newest, which was bought in 2020.
Checked the Honda before using in the spring and still good to go, and started first pull.
You really do get what you pay for.
 
I mentioned "the throw away mentality" above, but I was just thinking, most of the youngsters, there are exceptions of course, just aren't into getting their hands dirty and sorting these sort of things. School doesn't seem to give them the hand skills any more - woodwork and metalwork was a big thing when I was in school, now they want to stay clean and do stuff indoors with computers. So "stuff" just gets thrown away when it stops working.
 
I've been trying to get my son to do some maintenance tasks since he was about 12. Trouble is, none of his school friends were interested in anything mechanical, so it was an uphill battle.
The days of kids rebuilding an old moped to use as a field bike seem to have long gone.
That's how I learned the basics.
Now they just call the AA.
(Or their parents...)
 
I was just remembering when My daughter and family went to live in the States for a while - due to contractual obligations of husband - They rented quite a big house on a new estate with a lot of, very tough, grass to mow and edge - never seen grass so tough, you could actually cut yourself on it if you fell down while rough housing with the kids. They were in Southern Maryland mind you and it got so hot our type of grass would have just died. - anyway I accompanied her to their local Lowe's where we bought a large and quite expensive mulching mower and a much cheaper half crank, bent shaft strimmer. This sort of thing (not this brand though) : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/26631245...eMptHtdpLR2t6CYHxXpJ3KatEy|tkp:Bk9SR4qqha2pYg. Vibrate? Good gracious, I could only use it for about 5 minutes before I lost the feeling in my fingers! I'd never before used a bent shaft machine either and I really learned to hate it. I'd have a bevel gear machine every time. Almost as soon as we left them the machine refused to start. She took it to the repair shop who charged almost what she paid for it and it worked for the rest of that season. next year it wouldn't start again and she gave up. It stayed behind when they came back to the UK. They kept the mower though and it's going well, interesting it's front wheel drive, not seen very often over here but I saw a lot of people with them over there.
 
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I've been trying to get my son to do some maintenance tasks since he was about 12. Trouble is, none of his school friends were interested in anything mechanical, so it was an uphill battle.
The days of kids rebuilding an old moped to use as a field bike seem to have long gone.
That's how I learned the basics.
Now they just call the AA.
(Or their parents...)
Mine was a mobylette!

Edit. This years fathers day card from my daughter - who actually is the most technically able of my children, she's a civil engineer, said "If at first you don't succeed - CALL DAD!"
 
Oh good lord..


Now I suppose as ever I'd be mad to suggest if for example they just mandated a life hammer be supplied as standard equipment and avoid all this..

Of course we have a life hammer whereas a convoluted electric system that can survive total Immersion and the possible destruction of the battery..well I'm sure that costs less than 4.99 per car.
 
Oh good lord..


Now I suppose as ever I'd be mad to suggest if for example they just mandated a life hammer be supplied as standard equipment and avoid all this..

Of course we have a life hammer whereas a convoluted electric system that can survive total Immersion and the possible destruction of the battery..well I'm sure that costs less than 4.99 per car.
Don't think I'll comment on this as it'll place me firmly in the dinosaur brigade. However it has made me wonder just how waterproof the battery pack and high tension electrical systems in electric cars really are. There is an enormous amount of energy stored in an EV battery and at much higher potential current/voltage than anything we've been used to up 'till now - we are continually being told how dangerous it is to mess about with electric vehicles unless properly trained to do so. Are they really saying they're more worried, if you drive your EV into the harbour, that door locks or windows are a greater danger than the enormous potential stored in the battery just inches beneath your bum?
 
Oh good lord..


Now I suppose as ever I'd be mad to suggest if for example they just mandated a life hammer be supplied as standard equipment and avoid all this..

Of course we have a life hammer whereas a convoluted electric system that can survive total Immersion and the possible destruction of the battery..well I'm sure that costs less than 4.99 per car.
Still it will be handy for all the "bozos" who park on the beach at low tide and go to the pub.;)
 
I've got a 20+ year old Honda 4-stroke Strummer, which just keeps going. I've also got 4 (well probably 3 and a half) generic 2-stroke ones which I've been given by family members when they stopped working over the years.
Every single one lasted less than 3 years, and then refused to start. Only one was worn enough to actually have a real problem - like Jocks, the pull start failed because it was made out of cheese (well, plastic, but Cheddar might have lasted better).
I did think about picking the best bits out of the pile and making one (or two) good ones, but they really are horrible engineering, and I have never bothered so far.
One thing I have noticed is that all of them have age cracks in the fuel line, including the newest, which was bought in 2020.
Checked the Honda before using in the spring and still good to go, and started first pull.
You really do get what you pay for.
20 years ago a 4 stroke Strummer - or even Strimmer? - was pretty ground breaking. Pretty much everyone else made 2 strokes. I remember seeing somewhere that the Honda 4 stroke was supposed to emit much less pollutant? However being a Honda I'm not too surprised to hear it's still functional. I always wondered if they had enough oil in such a small four stroke to be viable, but must be Ok because there's a few around although now the electric stuff is getting some pretty decent batteries I think they'll soon become the norm. Another professional gardener I know has just bought a Stihl electric strimmer with a backpack battery pack. He's also got the extended hedge cutter and they are so quiet compared to the old IC machines, all you hear is the clacking of the blades! Goodness knows what it cost though.
 
Oh good lord..


Now I suppose as ever I'd be mad to suggest if for example they just mandated a life hammer be supplied as standard equipment and avoid all this..

Of course we have a life hammer whereas a convoluted electric system that can survive total Immersion and the possible destruction of the battery..well I'm sure that costs less than 4.99 per car.
To be fair to NCAP there is only so much you can do to make a metal car body resistant to accidents and given that most cars these days can easily resist a 30 or 40mph accident without intrusion into the passenger compartment, the only option NCAP have now is the keep thinking of things to test to justify their own existence.

Some companies like Volvo regularly go well beyond on safety than even NCAP test for.

I could get behind technology and gadgets on NCAP as any car that can avoid having an accident in the first place is infinitely safer than one that lets you drive into the back of a lorry.

But this is silly now. Expect the next NCAP standard to have a need for chitty chitty bang bang inflatable skirts for driving on water. And a ballistic parachute incase you drive off a cliff
 
Child detection was another addition in the article as well.

If you leave your child in the car it tells you...

My child tends to come with that...if you can't detect someone telling you to play the flipping octonauts constantly or that you left the house with a kid and it's not there now...Christ how do you remember where you left the car at all?

Perhaps they you know...could test cars to ensure standards are maintained? Rather than I dunno making every car need to be 40k just to cover the absolute bobbins needed for 5 stars this is my opinion includes auto braking and lane assist..given they are far more likely to brake at random or steer you into oncoming traffic then help you avoid an accident or end with you in a garage getting them endlessly fault found).
 
20 years ago a 4 stroke Strummer - or even Strimmer? - was pretty ground breaking. Pretty much everyone else made 2 strokes. I remember seeing somewhere that the Honda 4 stroke was supposed to emit much less pollutant? However being a Honda I'm not too surprised to hear it's still functional. I always wondered if they had enough oil in such a small four stroke to be viable, but must be Ok because there's a few around although now the electric stuff is getting some pretty decent batteries I think they'll soon become the norm. Another professional gardener I know has just bought a Stihl electric strimmer with a backpack battery pack. He's also got the extended hedge cutter and they are so quiet compared to the old IC machines, all you hear is the clacking of the blades! Goodness knows what it cost though.
I originally bought it to do some garden clearance for the parents as they had bought a house in France which had been unoccupied for about 10 years. The garden was too long for electric tools, and there were elderly neighbours who did not appreciate noisy things going on, especially as it had been completely quiet for a decade.
With the blade on, it was brilliant at knocking down the overgrown stuff, with the bonus that the vibration was way less than the 2-stroke ones.
Also, it uses a lot less fuel!
It's the only brushcutter I've used which hasn't caused me shoulder pain after a couple of hours use. The cheaper 2-stroke ones also tend to cause my hands to lose feeling because of the crazy level of vibration.
Its a very cute little engine, but as it hasn't gone wrong I've never had it apart to learn any more about it. But typically, small Honda engines are very well thought out and maintainable.
(As I can still remember how to rebuild a SS50 moped engine from when I was 15, I guess I'll be able to fix it if it does break.)
 
I've got a 20+ year old Honda 4-stroke Strummer, which just keeps going. I've also got 4 (well probably 3 and a half) generic 2-stroke ones which I've been given by family members when they stopped working over the years.
Every single one lasted less than 3 years, and then refused to start. Only one was worn enough to actually have a real problem - like Jocks, the pull start failed because it was made out of cheese (well, plastic, but Cheddar might have lasted better).
I did think about picking the best bits out of the pile and making one (or two) good ones, but they really are horrible engineering, and I have never bothered so far.
One thing I have noticed is that all of them have age cracks in the fuel line, including the newest, which was bought in 2020.
Checked the Honda before using in the spring and still good to go, and started first pull.
You really do get what you pay for.
Honda used to be totally bomb proof buys. I have a generator but its packed up after 46 years! I had a Honda Mower but PX'ed it when it was about 18 years old. That was a mistake, All the rubber bits in the fuel system of my generator have passed away. I need to find a decent Honda machinery place to get an entire set of seals diaphrams and pipes etc. I would pay up to get this thing going again its earned its keep many times over and been used to charge the caravan battery on holidays for 30 years. I think it might just be beyond help now now. It packed up in 2021 along with the caravan battery leabving me powerless, When the fuel actually got to the engine it always started first pull. If I could afford to but an entire set of Honda machinery I wouldnt look elsewhere. I am however looking at Hyundai as they are one of the biggest industrial machinery makers in the world and they seem to offer a decent warranty. They are also cheap. As Jock says its all about parts availability. As Ive found with Lawnflite even reasonably big names are not immune from the built in obsolesnces inflicted by shortages. My son has a set of eGo stuff that seems good but the cost here is an outrage, double the Hyundai mower price for instance and the H comes with two 80v batteries and a charger. I suppose a multi tool at £175 with 3 years warranty is about as good a bet as anything on offer, but I really want to go cordless electric.

My old Honda mower was likewise low vibration and the generator was so quiet we could run it all nightb if required so long as we had 10m clearance from other people. The MacAllister thing (screw Fix I think) Ive consigned to recycling is without doubt the worst I have ever come across in terms of vibration. 10 mimnutes had both hands fizzing. As I had carpel tunnel ops on both wrists and one elbow 20 years ago I am actually glad to be able to part company with it.
 
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Don't think I'll comment on this as it'll place me firmly in the dinosaur brigade. However it has made me wonder just how waterproof the battery pack and high tension electrical systems in electric cars really are. There is an enormous amount of energy stored in an EV battery and at much higher potential current/voltage than anything we've been used to up 'till now - we are continually being told how dangerous it is to mess about with electric vehicles unless properly trained to do so. Are they really saying they're more worried, if you drive your EV into the harbour, that door locks or windows are a greater danger than the enormous potential stored in the battery just inches beneath your bum?
These new super charger stations scare the whatsit from me. The idea of 100Amp+ chargers and wet floors scares me rigid. I had standing under pylons and my innate sense of preservation screams at me when I even look at EV charging. I was considering a charger in my garage when I had the solar installed. After the electric bike fire deaths recently I wont consider charging an EV in a building. That leaves me with the electricity and rain worries. There is as far as I know no regulation and little experience of the risks of these things. Richard Hammonds Rimmac crash and the resulting week long fire have likewise done nothing for my feelings of safety near these things. Petrol is bad enough!
 
Honda parts are often available at local garden machinery places down our way but not very cheap, I bought a Honda engined pressure washer at an auction but with no silencer, it cost me more for that than I paid for the pressure waasher in working order.
Re generators I have a Briggs and Stratton V twin 12.5 Hp one with a 6 Kw Bosch alternator that will do 415 volt three phase (I have run three phase Tigs, lathes , milling machines etc. with no problem) it also does 240 volt single phase as well,from an ice cream van man who used it as a back up when by the beach. It has an electric starter but even if left for a year or so it soon starts with a couple of pulls on the cord. A customer had a 240 volt static version in his American Cherokee Sun Voyager 7.5 tonne camper
 
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