What to do, hmmm....

[sutera1996]

Well Today I spotted this 2007 GP, which looks like someones spent a fair few on it , i.e its gots 18" alloys , lowered, rear spoiler etc etc. Lots of kit!!

Well anyway its parked in a hospital carpark, went to have a look over it today, and saw the tax expired in 2011 and all 4 tyres are flat and its clearly not been used since the tax expired . Then I remebered that I had seen it here in the exact same space back early 2012 , parked up , but then I forgot about....

Done a vehicle enquiry and it comes back as being sorn!

All in all it looks like its gunna require a lot of love to put it back on the road and a good clean to rid it of all the moss and rubbish inside.

Anyway I'm basically interested in finding whoever and possibly buying it as a project. But who do i speak to?! , when i mean hospital, its a very small day hospital, so not a major one, so do I speak to them and see if they know. (Looking on the window theres several notices saying to move it , and in late 2011 they have seemed to give up). Or shall i go round all the houses that surround the hospital in the road next to it, theres about 10 houses.

Anyway Cheers!

 

[ElliottMK2B]

sounds like it could be a good find if they are prepared to sell and the price is right

if its in the hospital car park id go in and ask if they know

 

[sutera1996]

Yeah!
I'll probably do that first , yeah if the price is right, still not 100% sure why u would leave such a new car sorn in a hospital carpark for 2 years!, so hopefully no massive issues lurking in the background......
But its got some lovely kit on it

 

[ElliottMK2B]

yeah id be wondering why it was there too lol

i would have thought maybe because of some sort of mechanical issue

 

[sutera1996]

yeah id be wondering why it was there too lol

i would have thought maybe because of some sort of mechanical issue

Lol I think thats most likely it!
These were my other thoughts
-Owner living abroad tempoarily
-Owner dead
-car stolen/ iffy

And yeah the most likey a MASSIVE mechanical issue or electrical
But ya never know

 

[sludgeguts]

Help yourself.
Get round there when the car park is quiet, hitch it up & tow it away (towing dolly / car trailer?).

If it's had notices on to be shifted & the owner comes along, tell them the hospital contracted you to remove it.

 

[portland_bill]

Ask DVLA if they can tell you who is the registered keeper. The worst they can say is no.

I seem to remember, that anyone can apply to DVLA to become the registered keeper of a vehicle, this is not the same as being the legal owner. DVLA then write to the keeper on their records, giving them a time limit to reply. If they do not reply, DVLA issue you with a new V5. This will have the details of the last recorded keeper, allowing you to contact them with an offer. Of course you may then become liable for removing it, and any parking charges.

Why is it in the hospital car park? Visitor, and it broke down? Or more likely staff when it broke. Does the hospital have a staff noticeboard that you could post a note on requesting owner to contact you? Stand next to it with a placard at shift change time.

 

[sutera1996]

Help yourself.
Get round there when the car park is quiet, hitch it up & tow it away (towing dolly / car trailer?).

If it's had notices on to be shifted & the owner comes along, tell them the hospital contracted you to remove it.

LoL awsome plan, just have the casual problem of not having the keys

Ask DVLA if they can tell you who is the registered keeper. The worst they can say is no.

I seem to remember, that anyone can apply to DVLA to become the registered keeper of a vehicle, this is not the same as being the legal owner. DVLA then write to the keeper on their records, giving them a time limit to reply. If they do not reply, DVLA issue you with a new V5. This will have the details of the last recorded keeper, allowing you to contact them with an offer. Of course you may then become liable for removing it, and any parking charges.

Why is it in the hospital car park? Visitor, and it broke down? Or more likely staff when it broke. Does the hospital have a staff noticeboard that you could post a note on requesting owner to contact you? Stand next to it with a placard at shift change time.

I had a look and according to the DVLA its got a regestered owner, who has been sorning it since 2011, when it was last taxed!!. Yeah the hospital is like a very small day hospital in a very small town, with a free unmanned carpark, so yeah possibly, but why would it still be there years later ? . There are some houses that boarder on to the carpark, so it could be theres!

 

[The Beard]

It's quite a drawn out job to have a vehicle removed from private property. Our lot are going through this now. The DVLA will reveal the keeper details if you can't find out yourself which would allow you to approach the owner. I'm wondering if it belongs to a foreign doctor who's out of the country and just keeps Sorning on line.

 

[portland_bill]

... been sorning it since 2011, when it was last taxed!!. .... but why would it still be there years later

Possible reasons could be no money to repair it, but loves their Fiat, so SORNs it to avoid losiing it. They might be persuaded to let it go to another enthusiast. Go for it, find the owner via DVLA, ask them what went wrong, it might change your mind, then make them an offer.

 

[Jazzist]

Possible reasons could be no money to repair it, but loves their Fiat, so SORNs it to avoid losiing it. They might be persuaded to let it go to another enthusiast. Go for it, find the owner via DVLA, ask them what went wrong, it might change your mind, then make them an offer.

Your Panda avatar looks amazing :slayeranda Alessi, never seen one in the wild I don't think.

 

[portland_bill]

Google it for more info. "Panda Alessi" I've never seen another one in the wild.

Its all orange inside too. Was using a 500 as a school car with BSM, missed the rear access and headrests. Went looking for a Panda, one of the pastel shades, or a blue, black or white one, found this one. It made me smile, still does 3 years later. As a school car, I now have a 2-week old Fiesta 1.0 econetic (3cyl turbo 123hp), highly strung, no more economical in real use than the 1.4 before it. I prefer driving the Panda, even on long runs, gentler, more relaxing and is a happy car. Bit of an issue on motorways, too many people sit alongside looking at it and can trap you unable to overtake.

 

[PuntoHowTo]

I'm wondering if it belongs to a foreign doctor who's out of the country and just keeps Sorning on line.

This seems the most likely answer, also maybe combined with some sort of mechanical issue that stranded it there in the first place

 

[sutera1996]

Hi all, thanks for the advice

I didnt realise that the DVLA could tell you who the regestered keeper is , due to the Data protection etc , if so, shall I just phone them up ?

Im going to get my dad to makes some enquries with the hospital and have a good snoop around on monday as he works there on that day

 

[sludgeguts]

Bit of an issue on motorways, too many people sit alongside looking at it and can trap you unable to overtake.

It's not the car - it's that there are too many nobs out there. I follow the "outside lanes are for overtaking only rule" & quite often end up with nobs who zoom up lane 2 at stupid mph then seem to reduce speed to match you so as you can't pull out to overtake.
I think they see it as some sort of game.

 

[sludgeguts]

It's quite a drawn out job to have a vehicle removed from private property. Our lot are going through this now.

I would never have believed it had I not seen it a few times myself.
A local watering hole (long gone now) had a problem with a few abandoned cars in their car park - making it awkward for customers to get in/out.
Police wouldn't do anything so a few of the regulars helped out by shifting the car out onto the main road, blocking one lane of a two-lane road through town.
No tax, no test, no insurance & blocking the road - the authorities soon shifted it then :devil:

Also saw this with a residential home I used to deal with. Again, abandoned cars in the car park, no-one could do anything, local scrappies wanted money to take away - One of the staff popped into a local pikey camp on their way home & asked if they could help ... :devil:

Just seems so ridiculous that people can get away with dumping their cars just because it is on private ground. - what if they leave one on your driveway?

 

[The Beard]

Hi all, thanks for the advice

I didnt realise that the DVLA could tell you who the regestered keeper is , due to the Data protection etc , if so, shall I just phone them up ?

Im going to get my dad to makes some enquries with the hospital and have a good snoop around on monday as he works there on that day

It can be a bit of an issue if you have a "likely to be stolen" car, such as a Discovery/Range Rover or the like.

A car can actually (believe it or not) be registered to a P.O. Box. I've come across this twice, once at work where a smug driver used the immortal words: "Go on then, what's the worst that can happen" when a TPCSO was about to give him a parking ticket. He ignored the first Section 172 form, and the second. What he didn't realise is that you can't insure a car to a P.O. Box and he had to do this to his home address. He was a little crestfallen when a Cop knocked on his door and placed the form in his hand.

The other was a friend of mine who has a Jag XJ-R and a Range Rover Vogue.

I must admit I've never looked into how you do this but it does seem inconceivable that you can ask for keeper details without some form of Police involvement. If a driver is involved in a crash he/she has to give their details including their address to anyone who has reasonable grounds to require them, but that does need a crash first.

 

[The Beard]

Hi all, thanks for the advice

I didnt realise that the DVLA could tell you who the regestered keeper is , due to the Data protection etc , if so, shall I just phone them up ?

Im going to get my dad to makes some enquries with the hospital and have a good snoop around on monday as he works there on that day

If you haven't already found this, it's worth reading:

https://www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla

 

[The Beard]

I would never have believed it had I not seen it a few times myself.
A local watering hole (long gone now) had a problem with a few abandoned cars in their car park - making it awkward for customers to get in/out.
Police wouldn't do anything so a few of the regulars helped out by shifting the car out onto the main road, blocking one lane of a two-lane road through town.
No tax, no test, no insurance & blocking the road - the authorities soon shifted it then :devil:

Also saw this with a residential home I used to deal with. Again, abandoned cars in the car park, no-one could do anything, local scrappies wanted money to take away - One of the staff popped into a local pikey camp on their way home & asked if they could help ... :devil:

Just seems so ridiculous that people can get away with dumping their cars just because it is on private ground. - what if they leave one on your driveway?

They would probably refuse to turn up on the grounds that it would damage their professional integrity if they were invited to take something rather than just steal it.

We have large car parks where I work and at the moment we're sending letters out to registered keepers of half a dozen cars that have been there for over 6 months. One we nearly removed a few years ago was am Aston DB9, until we discovered that the plates had been covered by others which had fallen off. The original had been registered in England but the owner had moved to Jersey and simply stuck the C.I. plates over the old ones with double sided tape.

 

[custard]

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