General What have you done for her/him recently?

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Bought the panda fire not this saturday but saturday before.. already has a 12cd multichanger, 2 new alpine speakers - everything wired by myself through the vehicle. I'm doing a project this week to make my own interior panels with strawberry material - excited ^_^

Coor. Someone's been busy kitting out their Panda!

Pic's of the latter when done please.



Well today was a sad day that had to come. Our poor old Selecta was laid to rest.............




























.......On top of a skip



Now that is what I call a stripped Panda! Only thing left that I could have nabed was rear axel and rear shocks!

Fully recycled in my parts shed

 

[PandaMark]

Only thing left that I could have nabbed was rear axle and rear shocks

So why didn't you?

 

[purple haze]

Nice one mep....Bianca has gone off to have new sill (outer) and the inner patched for the mot...Thought was not worth patching the outer as it was just as easy to replace the whole thing..plus it wont need patching again..job done...

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

So why didn't you?

Where would be the benefit? I've never heard of a Panda's rear axle failing, and no-where to store it.

 

[firstcar-Y10]

Where would be the benefit? I've never heard of a Panda's rear axle failing, and no-where to store it.

they don't last forever

 

[Pandarus]

Replaced & fixed connections for tail-lights, took gearbox out, messed around with it, replaced gearbox, 5th gear now works smoothly , new spare tyre, emptied & replaced air filter, replaced oil (finally :bang, good polish, then tipped it down with rain.

Good day I think

Someone had a busy day!!!

 

[RhysB]

Someone had a busy day!!!

Ohh yes. :dead:

Well worth it though

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=54154
they don't last forever

:doh:

 

[lightweightmick]

Impressed that I am that she passed her MOT I bought her a set of points! And, not content with spending best part of £300 for MOT (as I broke the handle on my Waxoyl pump yesterday) I nipped into Halfords and lashed out on a simple compressor and tools to spray waxoyl into those welded-up inner sill sections - another £130 The paraffin gun works well for Waxoyl but I need to lash out a bit more yet - as I've seen a Waxoyl spray kit on eBay for £40 that will allow better access into box sections.
Any suggestions most welcome!

 

[CLXCraig]

I suggest you try and top my new sound system.

Not clear as only just taken the pic

Bang and olufsen.....

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

The paraffin gun works well for Waxoyl but I need to lash out a bit more yet

The what

Could you do me a knoobs guide to applying waxoyl please as I'e got about £100 worth of the stuff sitting in the parts shed (spray applicator thing and everything) but am yet to use it.

To tell you the truth it scares me a little

 

[CLXCraig]

fill the spray gun pot. plug compressor in. turn compressor on. let it fill up with air. point gun at surface to waxoyl, pull trigger. same rules as rattle can spraying, dont hold it one spot to long.

In a nutshell

 

[lightweightmick]

Hi MEP,
if you got this in your kit:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_196131_langId_-1_categoryId_165614

it needs a lot of pumping... and I broke the handle off mine! Mind you I have had it for years... I'd adapted it with the hose and nozzle off a garden sprayer which I found gave a better spray. But it difficult to maintain enough pressure to develop a good spray. Waxoyl needs to be warm too and as the wind whistled down my drive on Saturday it was far from warm (and this was with a mixture of Waxoyl thinned with white spirit and oil - new oil that is)

Better results are obtained with warm/hot waxoyl.

Waxoyl comes in clear and black - the black sets and is good for underbody, whereas the clear is supposed to stay soft, but I find it dries anyway. My thinking has been to add oil to the initial coat to allow the stuff to creep into panel joints.
I bought a basic £99 oil free SIP compressor and their set of tools which inc. a degreasing gun (I've called it a parrafin gun)

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_218740_langId_-1_categoryId_165727
and (the other bits will come in handy too):
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_157525_langId_-1_categoryId_165727
the degreasing gun is the one with the long nozzle and red can
- there's no pressure in the can and it sucks up the oil by air pulling it from the nozzle end, but it has limited accessibilty. I'm looking at getting one of these:
(can't bloomin' find it today... saw two yesterday!)

anyway here's a used kit on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5pc-AIR-COMPR...sors?hash=item35a34e91d7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
and this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AIR-COMPRESSO...sors?hash=item4a9a7b35aa&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

cheers
lwm

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Cheers Craig and LWM.

Right really stupid question here.

Where to I apply it? Every crack and crevis that the eye doesn't see like inside doors and behind the rear lights and up those pannels on the inside etc, or is it just for under the car and in the sills etc

 

[lightweightmick]

In an ideal world:



I saw 2 of these long probe kits for Waxoyl on eBay on Sunday, but couldn't find 'em yesterday (should have added 'em to my watch list I know... )

There's plenty of other stuff on the internet on application etc. if you do a Google search.

The probe that Hammerite (makers of Waxoyl these days) supply has just a nail in the end to form a basic fan shape of 'spray' - but it's not very good, and once it's inside a section you've no idea where the stuff is going or if it's coming out at all really!
The most obvious areas to try and prevent corrosion on the Panda are the internals of the sill sections which can be accessed from above (with trim removed) below seat belt mountings at rear and by angling gun into sill drainage holes. The front end is particularly susceptible with road spray from below and water finding it's way from above via the door seal. This is where my 1000's needed most welding. Also around the inner sill round the rear susp. links as they get a lot of 'weather' and road salt.
If you have good doors it's well worth getting waxoyl in there asap.
The black waxoyl is better for underbody protection as it dries, whereas the clear (brown) stuff is better for inner body bits and my thinking is to thin it right down with oil to allow for it to seep into seams etc. What you don't want is a thick coating on top of rust that will continue to develop beneath the coating. You want a mix that 'soaks in'.
You'll need plastic sheeting or tape together some big flat cardboard sheet from old boxes as it can be messy when it drips out! And be sure it has all dripped out before using it on roads again.
Get Googling - that waxoyl will be doing more good on yer Pandas than in the shed!
cheers
mick

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Well buggar me that looks easy (famous last words ).

So I assume the waxoyl he's using is heated. Hows best to heat it?

I always imagined it as think liquid candle wax

 

[lightweightmick]

I can confirm it's much easier with a compressor and gun! The guy on Utube there clearly knows what he's doing. I've had some blow back, so goggles would be sensible! What I really need is one of those long probe thingies with a proper spray nozzle on the end, but then as the Panda is a small car and the gun sprays a jet about a good foot long maybe it won't be necessary.
I've seen it done with a proper spray gun, but I think too much vapour is produced.

Least I've protected all that nice new welding and where the original coating has been burnt away around it.
If yours haven't been welded yet, you are looking at staving that off for a good few years if you can get into all the right places. Well worth the trouble I would say - and the extra say £100 at eBay prices for more pressure of a proper spray set-up!

Maybe that's because you've seen it on cars when it's dried out - looks more like wax then and quite solid.
The best advice I can give is to trawl the net for info - I've put mine on cold, but diluted with clean new oil. If you are using the hand pump sprayer as mentioned earlier it will work better warmed up (and on a warm day the car body will be warmer thus allowing better penetration into seams etc) with a compressor it will wop it out cold but it will penetrate better neat if warm. In many places of course you can just brush it on and maybe a good place to get the feel of the stuff is under the front wheel arches after removing the stone guards and that plastic strip that runs up the door pillar under the wheel arch. There's a plastic grommet that allows more access to the inner sill section at the bottom there.

I would say see how you get on with it cold before you start heating it. They recommend standing the can in a bucket of hot water for 30mins at least - you could speed this up by keeping it in a warm room overnight though surely? Or standing the can behind glass maybe..? (this when it's sunny of course)
I don't think they'd be too happy if we starting keeping it in the airing cupboard though...

 

[urchin]

you really need one of these to do the job right: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Schutz-Shutz-...aint?hash=item53dcb0bad2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
you can buy small cans to screw on the bottom obviously you need a small compressor to power it. its also good for spraying underseal.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

I don't think they'd be too happy if we starting keeping it in the airing cupboard though...

They won't have a choice in the matter

 

[Bougainvillea Rosso]

I've not used a compressor before but have been thinking about investing. Thanks for all the useful tips here. If it's of interest, I recently bought some of the big aerosol cans of Bilt Hamber's Dynax S50. I think it's better suited to the interior sections as it's much more runny than Waxoyl but each can comes with a really effective applicator and a line that is probably long enough for most areas on the Panda. I have been very impressed with it. It's not cheap however, and in the long run it may pay to buy a compressor...